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[DeathCultArm]

Prime example...Same for Liara, and Wrex. Both are very one dimensional, yet loved univerisally.

[Marlina]

Plus, Udina has the funniest voice ever. And he's the most quotable person in the entire game.

Udina-mance anyone?


>--ME2 POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD, TAKE HEED--<

Anyway, I think he'll screw it up in ME2. In one of the previews I saw, Jacob told Shepard that "despite humanity taking over the council two years ago, nothing really changed". This is WEIRD to say the least, considering HUMAN colonies are disappearing. Why doesn't Udina go "SEND YOUR FLEET IN!"? I wonder what happened to the Udina I once knew...

[Teknor]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Teknor wrote...
Council ceases its support for Shepard, it does not order Shepard to stop the pursuit. It is the Udina who jumps to the opportunity and grounds Normandy to show that Alliance does not back up Shepard.

No, the Council ordered Shepard not to go to Ilos, because Ilos lies in the Terminus system. If a Specter goes there, it's basically a declaration of war.

No Shepard states that one ship wouldn't cause a war therefore asks them to send him/her which Council refuses but they don't forbid from taking action. Spectres can do as they see fit.

[DeathCultArm]

Garrus and Ash were the only saving graces in squad wise in ME1.

[wxman]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I like Anderson alot. He is brave and brilliant. But I didn't ut him as head of the council because he is a military man. Last thing we need is the military handling the subtelties of politics. Historically speaking, that almost always leads to disaster.

Yeah, George Washington, Teddy Rosevelt and Eisenhower were all such terrible presidents wern't they...

[KnightofPhoenix]

Teknor wrote...
No Shepard states that one ship wouldn't cause a war therefore asks them to send him/her which Council refuses but they don't forbid from taking action. Spectres can do as they see fit.

Faceplam. Specter can do what they see fit as long as the Council allows it. The Council clearly didn't. They gave Shepard a direct order not to go to Ilos.  

[KnightofPhoenix]

wxman wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I like Anderson alot. He is brave and brilliant. But I didn't ut him as head of the council because he is a military man. Last thing we need is the military handling the subtelties of politics. Historically speaking, that almost always leads to disaster.

Yeah, George Washington, Teddy Rosevelt and Eisenhower were all such terrible presidents wern't they...

They were no longer in the military at that point.
Plus, the American system is well structured as to not allow disaster from happening (at least in theory).
But to equate it to real life. Putting a military man as representative in the UN or head of the UN, is a bad choice.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:35 .

[tommythetomcat]

poisonoustea wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

People just hate interesting characters, and love shallow and uninspired ones. Take Tali for example.

Oh poor Tali. Am I the only one who liked them all? :innocent:

...except that Conrad Verner dude. I had shivers when he asked me to have that photo taken... wonder what he did with it when he came back home.

Nah most people like all the characters to a certain point, rabid fanboyism of certain ones though goes into the realm of insanity.

Wrex is as shallow a personality can be but that doesn't stop me from laughing at his lines or feeling for his plight with the genophage on Virmire.

[DeathCultArm]

Anderson is a solder. He had a chance at spectre, failed, and let Saren get the best of him. I don't see how he could be chosen over Udina. Anderson, just doesn't seem to have the necessary edge to succeed.

[Teknor]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Teknor wrote...
No Shepard states that one ship wouldn't cause a war therefore asks them to send him/her which Council refuses but they don't forbid from taking action. Spectres can do as they see fit.

Faceplam. Specter can do what they see fit as long as the Council allows it. The Council clearly didn't. They gave Shepard a direct order not to go to Ilos.  

, show me the direct order. 

[Zulu_DFA]

"You've done well, Commander."











*Uncle Donnel knows better*











"It's time for Humanity to RISE UP and SEIZE ITS DESTINY!!!"

[Phate Phoenix]

Hooray! Does Udina show for ME2? I've seen Anderson, but not Udina.

I used to pick Anderson over Udina every time i beat Mass Effect, but recently I've flip-flopped, and I truly think humanity is better off with Udina in the seat. He knows how the Council works, and while he isn't the nicest person ever, he definitely knows how to get things done and how to play the game. My Shepard may never be buddies with him, but she most certainly respects him.

I never got the impression that Udina was in it for himself. He's all about humanity's best interests, and if that means Anderson is the one in charge, then he's all for it.

I also love that he'll say no to me. He'll say no and won't fold. We need a human who is willing to do so, because then we know that it's not just alien prejudice. Anderson gave me the impression that I could bully him into things. Udina'd gnaw his own leg off before compromising his ideals.

Also, I'd totally join an Udina group.

Modifié par Phate Phoenix, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:44 .

[commander_chung]

I think that Anita Goyle is the best Ambassador ever and the people that read Revelation know that you dont have to be an ass to do or get whats best for humanity. just think what would have happened if Udina did mange to stop you going to Ilos all of the ass**** things that could have been consider as good would have been for nothing all because he got what wanted and didn't need you anymore (well that is u think the saving all organic life is a really really good thing).

[Zulu_DFA]

Marlina wrote...

I fully endorse this thread!

We should totally make a Udina group. I would join in an instant. You up for it Zulu?

Why don't you do it? I'm more of a TERRA FIRMA jackal.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Teknor wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Teknor wrote...
No Shepard states that one ship wouldn't cause a war therefore asks them to send him/her which Council refuses but they don't forbid from taking action. Spectres can do as they see fit.

Faceplam. Specter can do what they see fit as long as the Council allows it. The Council clearly didn't. They gave Shepard a direct order not to go to Ilos.  

, show me the direct order. 

"You detonated a nuclear device on Virmire, you call that discreet?"
"Ilos requires a deft touch Commander. We have the situation under control". In otherwords: stay out of it.

"Ambassador Udina, I get the feeling that Shepard is not goign to let this go". In other words, do somethign about it Udina.

If you don't actually see how the Council is forbidden you to go to Ilos and telling Udina to take action against you, then I don't know what to say.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:46 .

[wxman]

DeathCultArm wrote...
Udina is a dick. Though he is a very succesful at being a dick, his
dickyness very nearly got everyone in the galaxy killed. Fortunatlly he
failed in his attempt to foil Shepard just as he failed to block
Andersons fist from hitting his face.
Udina is a typical sellout politicaian who
would gladly screwover the entire human race if it benifited him
somehow. I dont see how anyone could justify chosing him over Anderson.

Thought I would try your qoute changing on for size Death. Like this version better.

Modifié par wxman, 17 janvier 2010 - 05:47 .

[SpectreSebz]

I think this can summarize the thread.

[ToshiStation38]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

I want to use this hand action more often.

[Marlina]

Zulu_DFA wrote...
Why don't you do it? I'm more of a TERRA FIRMA jackal.

Terra Firma (the in-game party, not the social group! ) is alright in my eyes, but they have too many idiots in their ranks.
And I may make a Udina group if nobody else is up for it.

[Zulu_DFA]

"Donnel UDINA. BEST Ambassador ever!" Created 1 hour ago. 43 posts.

"Ambassador Udina. Worst.Ambassador.Ever!" Created 3 hours ago. 35 posts



Udina wins!!!

Hail Donnel Udina Caesar Augustus, Emperor of the Galaxy!

[tommythetomcat]

SpectreSebz wrote...



I think this can summarize the thread.

Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney objects to this slanderous use of his franchise.

[wxman]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

"Donnel UDINA. BEST Ambassador ever!" Created 1 hour ago. 43 posts.
"Ambassador Udina. Worst.Ambassador.Ever!" Created 3 hours ago. 35 posts

Udina wins!!!
Hail Donnel Udina Caesar Augustus, Emperor of the Galaxy!

I think it's because people would rather post disagreements the aggrements.

[Scharfschutzen]

 I remember Zulu_DFA from the mass effect 2 forums.  A real renegade human-supremacist kill-the-aliens earth-ascendancy terran-galactic-empire guy.   This thread doesn't surprise me.