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[Iakus]

I suppose it's possible, but I really hope not. My Wardens stories are done. And I don't want them dug up just to be killed of in a lame attempt to make the story "dark and gritty"

Same with Hawke

[Sylvianus]

Mr.House wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

sandellniklas wrote...

Only if we can re-create the Warden's face with the new engine and the part is a non speaking one... but really, what would be the point. The Warden's story is over, some players had their Wardens sacrifice themselves, others want them to stay in Ferelden or go on untold adventures. Bringing back teh Warden would just be more trouble than it's worth. I actually don't want to see the Warden again. Mentioning him/her is fine, but that should be it.

There could be a point for those who had chosen to come with Morrigan. That choice was supposed to be significant. All the dead wardens can remain dead, and all those in Ferelden can remain unseen in Ferelden.

Bioware is not gonig to waste resources so your waifu headcanon does not get destoryed that's simply relaity. Bioware does not have unlimited resources.

Calm down boy. You seem a little nervous. And I'm not saying that's what they are going to do. I'm telling there could be a point. If you are trying to dismiss the point of the warden in DAI, then I will have something to tell.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 12 juin 2013 - 09:52 .

[Mr.House]

What's the point of the Warden in DA3? The Warden story is finished, along with Hawke. Leave them alone and focus on other characters.

Mentions are fine.

[Jonathan Seagull]

One thought that I had a while back, which I know at least one other poster suggested at the time, was to actually use the Eluvian as a means of seeing the Warden. He's seemingly disappeared one way or another, so I could see it turning out to be the case that the Warden wound up in Eluvian-land whether he chose to go or not.

Perhaps there would be a scene where we communicate with the Warden, but can only see him as a shadowy, blurred figure through the mirror. They could alter the silhouette for things like race and possibly gender, and still be able to avoid specifics such as the face in a way that's arguably less hokey than being covered head to toe. If it's just the one scene, I could even see them casting a variety of voices depending on race and gender (and perhaps origin, for the Dalish). I know that there are those who would not be happy with any voice, and that's understandable.

[Mr.House]

Jonathan Seagull wrote...

One thought that I had a while back, which I know at least one other poster suggested at the time, was to actually use the Eluvian as a means of seeing the Warden. He's seemingly disappeared one way or another, so I could see it turning out to be the case that the Warden wound up in Eluvian-land whether he chose to go or not.

<_<

[Il Divo]

Jonathan Seagull wrote...

One thought that I had a while back, which I know at least one other poster suggested at the time, was to actually use the Eluvian as a means of seeing the Warden. He's seemingly disappeared one way or another, so I could see it turning out to be the case that the Warden wound up in Eluvian-land whether he chose to go or not.

Perhaps there would be a scene where we communicate with the Warden, but can only see him as a shadowy, blurred figure through the mirror. They could alter the silhouette for things like race and possibly gender, and still be able to avoid specifics such as the face in a way that's arguably less hokey than being covered head to toe. If it's just the one scene, I could even see them casting a variety of voices depending on race and gender (and perhaps origin, for the Dalish). I know that there are those who would not be happy with any voice, and that's understandable.

Now this is a bit more creative.

[lecho_himself]

It's a matter of BioWare's choice. If they will want to import facecodes, characters stats etc - it's doable. It was done with Mass Effect (my very custom Shepard was imported from ME1 to ME2 and from ME2 to ME3 without a single problem), so it can be done with Dragon Age. Period.

The thing is I doubt that BioWare want to do this. I am afraid they would rather come up with some cheap explaination of why The Warden and Hawke are not present. Otherwise they wouldnt bother with a new protagonist and go for, lets say, an exceptional rpg with two imported protagonists.

I hope I'm wrong tho

And no, both Wardens and Hawkes stories are not necessarily finished. If anything involves the Wardens, it cannot NOT involve currently top living Warden and Hawke is, like someone said, a catalyst for mages-templars conflict. Both too important to be unmentioned.

Modifié par lecho_himself, 12 juin 2013 - 09:59 .

[Sylvianus]

Mr.House wrote...

What's the point of the Warden in DA3? The Warden story is finished, along with Hawke. Leave them alone and focus on other characters.

Mentions are fine.

The warden's story in DAO is finished. Now we are :moving to DA3. In its story where the warden ( those alive ) only mentioned or appearing may play a small role. Even a minor role could have a point in DA3. Also, I wouldn't be against seeing the differences between the choices we have made.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 12 juin 2013 - 10:01 .

[Ridirkulous]

As much as I would like to play as the Warden again I would rather not have him make a cameo. It'll just cross too many lines with too many fans. Bioware should really just focus on actually giving us some closure in the future instead of leaving us hanging off a cliff.

[filetemo]

If the warden HAS to be voiced for some reason, he/she will. And I'm fine with it.

It's been a couple of years, please tone down the feels. BSN.

[Sylvianus]

Personally, I won't be too happy if Bioware decides to simply leave the warden behind into the mirror. XD

That would be very lazy and too easy in my opinion...

[Nerevar-as]

Mr.House wrote...

What's the point of the Warden in DA3? The Warden story is finished, along with Hawke. Leave them alone and focus on other characters.

Mentions are fine.

My Warden went with Morrigan through the Eluvian, so if she´s a player again it makes sense he´s around her.

And if face doesn´t translate, just allow us to use the CC again. I´d rather have a bit of a pause and immersion breaking than no character at all. Or a full helmet. As a bonus it also distorts the voice.

[Sandy]

Sylvianus wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

sandellniklas wrote...

Only if we can re-create the Warden's face with the new engine and the part is a non speaking one... but really, what would be the point. The Warden's story is over, some players had their Wardens sacrifice themselves, others want them to stay in Ferelden or go on untold adventures. Bringing back teh Warden would just be more trouble than it's worth. I actually don't want to see the Warden again. Mentioning him/her is fine, but that should be it.

There could be a point for those who had chosen to come with Morrigan. That choice was supposed to be significant. All the dead wardens can remain dead, and all those in Ferelden can remain unseen in Ferelden.

Bioware is not gonig to waste resources so your waifu headcanon does not get destoryed that's simply relaity. Bioware does not have unlimited resources.

Calm down boy. You seem a little nervous. And I'm not saying that's what they are going to do. I'm telling there could be a point. If you are trying to dismiss the point of the warden in DAI, then I will have something to tell.

I'd just like to clarify that my canon Warden was a male human noble who followed his LI Morrigan through the mirror in Witch Hunt. So I do not have any "waifu headcanon " thank youv ery much. However, even so I think it's a bad idea to bring back the Warden unless it is done flawlessly. Seeing as how I don't believe Bioware will have the time or resources to do it flawlessly I'd rather they keep the Warden out of future games. Not to mention that character morphs from savegames from DA:Origins will most likely be hard to get into the new engine without any hickups etc.

[Funkjoker]

sandellniklas wrote...

However, even so I think it's a bad idea to bring back the Warden unless it is done flawlessly. Seeing as how I don't believe Bioware will have the time or resources to do it flawlessly I'd rather they keep the Warden out of future games.

That is the point. Furthermore Morri is directly connected to the Warden (well, to many, at least) and thus it's necessary that both Morri and Warden get their story finished. The new protagonist can do all the other unimportant stuff ^.^.

Importing the Warden and doing his face again is no problem. Maybe in a DLC?

[wiccame]

The Warden and Hawke have both mysteriously disappeared, and I am thinking they probably still are during the events in this game.
Maybe we might get some side quest or something open up, that takes us on a trail to find them or some explanation to what happened to them, but a cameo, probably not.

[Realmzmaster]

I do not wish to see a cameo of the warden or Hawke unless it is showing them dead with maybe friends mourning over the corpse. I can get behind that outcome. Otherwise a simply codex stating that the warden died fighting the darkspawn or Hawke died saving a village is sufficient.

[eyesheild21]

The final title will be Dragon Age Inquisition Return of the Warden I would rather play my warden who had the power, skill and ability to face such overwhelming odds. A new wet behind the ears protagonist can't stop dragons raining down from the skies let alone the war between Templars and mages. And just because he's a warden doesn't mean he can't be a part of the fight are the wardens just suppose to sit back at weisshaupt fortress and wait for the next blight. Sorry but only the warden could over come these odds and save or destroy the world if he choses and Morrigan will be by his side no matter his what he does.

[OdanUrr]

Knight of Dane wrote...

I hope not

Same.

[5ubzer0]

I am prepared to receive a letter from my Warden or at the very least get a new codex entry. That's all the closure I need.

[Iakus]

Sylvianus wrote...

Personally, I won't be too happy if Bioware decides to simply leave the warden behind into the mirror. XD

That would be very lazy and too easy in my opinion...

There are worse ways to end it.

Just look at ME3. 

[Il Divo]

iakus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Personally, I won't be too happy if Bioware decides to simply leave the warden behind into the mirror. XD

That would be very lazy and too easy in my opinion...

There are worse ways to end it.

Just look at ME3. 

Eh, this strikes me as the classic "Give the Reapers a motive or leave them mysterious" debate.

Personally, I want to know the deal with my Warden. Not so much for attachment issues, but because (you would think) sending him beyond the Eluvian with Morrigan + God Child would have some consequences for the plot. But then, I thought the same with the Collector Base and we saw how that turned out.

[Iakus]

Il Divo wrote...

Eh, this strikes me as the classic "Give the Reapers a motive or leave them mysterious" debate.

Personally, I want to know the deal with my Warden. Not so much for attachment issues, but because (you would think) sending him beyond the Eluvian with Morrigan + God Child would have some consequences for the plot. But then, I thought the same with the Collector Base and we saw how that turned out.

As far as I'm concerned:

One of my Wardens served for a time as Commander of the Grey, retired, and went off adventuring with Leliana
One Warden passed beyond the Eluvian to be with Morrigan and their son
One Warden chucked it all after the archdemon and and devoted himself to creating a new Dalish homeland.
and One Warden died slaying the archdemon, was made a Paragon posthumously and had an awesome funeral. 

I'm happy where those stories ended up.  Anything further that happens is up to me.  This is a new story.  The Warden doesn't factor into it.  

[Il Divo]

iakus wrote...

I'm happy where those stories ended up.  Anything further that happens is up to me.  This is a new story.  The Warden doesn't factor into it.  

And I think that's fine up until your prime love interest becomes involved in the potential destruction of the world, complete with God baby that you helped create and potentially become involved in raising. That's where the Bioware half-assing the Warden's story possibility turns up.

The Eluvian is the only potential ending for the Warden which suddenly has him involved in future events. I would have never given it to players as an option.

Modifié par Il Divo, 13 juin 2013 - 02:44 .

[Iakus]

Il Divo wrote...

iakus wrote...

I'm happy where those stories ended up.  Anything further that happens is up to me.  This is a new story.  The Warden doesn't factor into it.  

And I think that's fine up until your prime love interest becomes involved in the potential destruction of the world, complete with God baby that you helped create and potentially become involved in raising. That's where the Bioware half-assing the Warden's story possibility turns up.

The Eluvian is the only potential ending for the Warden which suddenly has him involved in future events. I would have never given it to players as an option.

First, we have no idea how involved Morrigan will be in the events on Thedas.  Flemeth narrated the "Destiny" trailer for DA2, how much of a role did she play in the events of that game?

In additioneven if Morrigan really is back doesn't mean the Warden has to be.  He could simply remain beyond the Eluvian playing "Mr Mom" while Morrigan does her thing.  My Warden who romanced Leliana didn't turn up with "Sister Nightingale" save in a mention that he is "dear to her heat" after all.  

Not to mention my Warden who went with Morrigan did NOT do the Dark Ritual, their child is completely human (though elf-blooded) 

[Silfren]

OzzyMcRcky wrote...

I was wondering if this would be at all possible? If your warden could actually make an appearance?
If the data was linked to your bioware account (because you will be unable to import saves on consoles) would it be able to happen?

If they can't ensure it is YOUR Warden, they should probably leave it out and just mention them based on your choices, E.g. Morrigan mentioning her love if your romanced her, finding out what happened to him/her if they're still alive or dead etc. Hawke would be much easier as they have his voice etc already, but still a generic Warden or Hawke would probably be worse.. To be honest I don't really care about Hawke, but I have a soft spot for my Warden, and there has to be SOME mention of him if Morrigan is in the game!

Anyway, lets discuss What are your opinions?

...You realize this topic HAS been discussed rather frequently for the past two years at least, right?