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[LoonySpectre]

I wonder if Flemeth, as in DAO and DA2, intervene to save the (future?) Inquisitor's life in the DAI prologue.

[Sol Downer]

Nope, the Inquisitor saves Flemeth.

[NoForgiveness]

I assume we will meet her at the very least

[Sontemuka]

Maybe, it can happen. Personally I don't think Flemeth is an evil character. Honestly I believe she will help the Inquisitor or at least she'll fight to defend the world... or control it.

[Fredward]

Sontemuka wrote...

Maybe, it can happen. Personally I don't think Flemeth is an evil character. Honestly I believe she will help the Inquisitor or at least she'll fight to defend the world... or control it.

People seem to love painting Flemeth as the villian but I think she's way more naunced than that. I mean think about it. She's never done anything to harm the protag (or anyone else? 'Cept potentially Morrigan) in the games so far. I don't think her motivations are completely altruistic mind you but she's definitely not the maniacal cackling hand wringing kind of villain either.

[Sol Downer]

Flemeth is the very definition of grey. Since we don't know her motives, that's how she's being portrayed. She's also shown as some kind of chess master, however, considering what she does every game. She rescues you when your life is on the line...let's look at it this way. She saved you and not somebody else because she knows that you'll be useful to her. Useful in a way that furthers her goals, whether for good or for ill. Even so, you can't dispute that she hasn't been exceedingly nice to you as Foopydoopydoo pointed out when she could let you die or snuff out your life. So...she's a chess master, but I doubt she wants to destroy the world.

[n7stormrunner]

she'll help, maybe... a demon army probably isn't any better for her plans, whatever they may be, then a darkspawn one... in less the demon army is one of them... then we may be in trouble

[HighMoon]

Flemeth as LI in DAI? ;P

[KiwiQuiche]

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

[Sontemuka]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Sontemuka wrote...

Maybe, it can happen. Personally I don't think Flemeth is an evil character. Honestly I believe she will help the Inquisitor or at least she'll fight to defend the world... or control it.

People seem to love painting Flemeth as the villian but I think she's way more naunced than that. I mean think about it. She's never done anything to harm the protag (or anyone else? 'Cept potentially Morrigan) in the games so far. I don't think her motivations are completely altruistic mind you but she's definitely not the maniacal cackling hand wringing kind of villain either.

Exactly. She saved the Dragon Age's protagonists for some reason of course, but we never saw her doing something bad. The stories and rumours about her, are improbable with the info we have at the moment.

[Pzykozis]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

Bloodthirsty much?

I assume Flemeth will turn up and I look forward to it, possibly the best character in the series.

[Tinu]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

So you basically want to kill her because she's smarter than your Warden or Hawke?

[LobselVith8]

TinuHawke wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

So you basically want to kill her because she's smarter than your Warden or Hawke? 

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

[Fredward]

LobselVith8 wrote...

TinuHawke wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

So you basically want to kill her because she's smarter than your Warden or Hawke? 

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

But... she did avoid getting killed. She even tricked the Warden and her daughter into thinking she was dead. Well my Warden anyway. Morrigan seemed unconvinced.

[Mr.House]

LobselVith8 wrote...

TinuHawke wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

So you basically want to kill her because she's smarter than your Warden or Hawke? 

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

She did though. Even Morrigan knew Flemeth was not truly dead and you where not protecting morrigan. Morrigan used you for her own gain and created some hogwash story so you could rise to defend her.

Modifié par Mr.House, 13 juin 2013 - 09:26 .

[LobselVith8]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

But... she did avoid getting killed. She even tricked the Warden and her daughter into thinking she was dead. Well my Warden anyway. Morrigan seemed unconvinced. 

Flemeth did die if The Warden killed her. That's the point behind the amulet. Also, The Warden and Morrigan knew she could come back; Morrigan mentions it as soon as you tell her you killed Flemeth.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Sontemuka wrote...

Maybe, it can happen. Personally I don't think Flemeth is an evil character. Honestly I believe she will help the Inquisitor or at least she'll fight to defend the world... or control it.

Flemeth in DA2 gave me the impression that she was ok with change (presumably violent) in her little speech to Hawke on Sundermount.  

She's certainly not a nice person, but if she wanted the world to end, she would've just left Alistair and the Warden to die in the Tower of Ishal.  And that Fade-y portal thing in the trailer looks pretty nasty, so I think she'd want to put a stop to that.

[LobselVith8]

Mr.House wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

She did though.

The need for the amulet would suggest otherwise.

Mr.House wrote...

Even Morrigan knew Flemeth was not truly dead and you where not protecting morrigan. Morrigan used you for her own gain and created some hogwash story so you could rise to defend her. 

You have anything to support that fan fiction you're espousing as truth?

[KiwiQuiche]

TinuHawke wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I hope we can kill her -permanently- in DAI. I was angered when that meddling witch escaped her death via my Warden in DA2 and Hawke was too spineless to have a go at her.

So you basically want to kill her because she's smarter than your Warden or Hawke?

No, I want to kill her for being a sneaky, manipulitive witch.

But assume away.

[TEWR]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

Half-right, Lob. She had already guessed that she would be fought and so managed to find a way to circumvent the permanency of death before the Warden even came to her hut (stuff you bring up)

She then tried to get the Warden to change his course, but ultimately she didn't care. She actually welcomed it, sort of. And while she did die by your hand, that doesn't negate how smart she is. Because she accounted for the possibility.

That does make her smarter then the Warden and Hawke, though it's not hard to be smarter then Hawke.

[whykikyouwhy]

LoonySpectre wrote...

I wonder if Flemeth, as in DAO and DA2, intervene to save the (future?) Inquisitor's life in the DAI prologue.

I'm hoping we see something along these lines. But even though Flemeth hasn't committed any grave harm to the protagonists of the past, her reasons for intervening seem to be more about putting them in the right place at the right time - pieces on a chessboard, and all that. Their survival (from the peril they are facing in the immediate) winds up ensuring other events take place (and perhaps further allows for her continued longevity).

I'm always up for an Asha'Bellanar cameo. 

[Mr.House]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Not smart enough to avoid getting killed by The Warden if he fights her to protect Morrigan.

She did though.

The need for the amulet would suggest otherwise.

Mr.House wrote...

Even Morrigan knew Flemeth was not truly dead and you where not protecting morrigan. Morrigan used you for her own gain and created some hogwash story so you could rise to defend her. 

You have anything to support that fan fiction you're espousing as truth?

You mean the fact that Flemeth outright tells you, you're being mislead or the fact that the exsistance of Yavana(who is mentioned by Zev in DAO, just not by name) outright debunks what Morrigan told you and the deal Marric made with Flemeth during the war with Orlais. I never knew fan fiction ment taking stuff the writers gave us.

Also before you pull the "Silent Grove is not canon!" card, yes the events are not canon if you did not make Alistair king, that however does not make Yavana non canon because the events around her happen without player choices and happen before the games. So if you say she is not canon, then Stolen Throne and The Calling are also not canon. Because of Yavana, Morrigan is proven to be false.

Also the amulet DOES prove she is smarter because she made sure if the Warden did attack her and manage to win(Flemeth is not even at her full power in that fight for crying outloud) she still planned a way to survive, and even if the amulet did not go to plan, Flemeth outright imp;lies she had other plans too. Flemeth is smarter then your characters.

Modifié par Mr.House, 13 juin 2013 - 08:59 .

[AstraDrakkar]

Oh I'm almost positive she'll put in an appearance at least. She seems to like being in the spotlight. Whether Bioware decides to have the PC assisted by her is still up in the air though. Not sure if they wanna go this route a third time. Maybe Bioware will throw a wrench in it and we'll be at odds with her for a change. Who knows?

[Reznore57]

If the marketing picture with the dragons on armor , red glow is the inquisitor....
I could imagine an order who drank dragon blood to be stronger and deal with the chaos back in the day.
I can also imagine Flemeth behind this..

This would go very well with the recent comics...

Or maybe I'm very wrong and it's just marketing to look cooool.

[MWImexico]

I think that this time it will be rather Morrigan who will hold this kind of role, save the protagonist, give him some advices and a pat on the shoulder.

Otherwise, apart from that, is it possible that the Inquisitor is also one of the children of Flemeth? It is unlikely, but I admit that the thought has crossed my mind.