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[Knockingbr4in]

If you want terrible design look at Cain Mines, not the Valkyrie.

[Miniditka77]

Yes, there is a "worst class."  It's not any of the ones mentioned in the OP, and in fact, those are all good to great classes (not even sure if the OP was serious about them, in fact).

Yes, player skill ultimately determines performance, but if two equally skilled players are playing two different classes, some classes will naturally do better than others because they have better powers/passives.  I'm not sure what the "worst" class is, but I'm pretty sure it's the Volus Sentinel.  The Saboteur and Vorcha Engineer are also in the running.  I used to consider the QFE in the running, but I have come around on her.  I still don't think she's any better than average, but I no longer think she's one of the worst. 

[NuclearTech76]

Knockingbr4in wrote...

If you want terrible design look at Cain Mines, not the Valkyrie.

You mispelled LOLCain Mines. They are the perfect design. You spam them and lots of chit ends up dead real quick. They are the power equivalent of the Cobra rocket.

[SpaceV3gan]

QU67 wrote...

Sure there are some poorly designed characters (Juggernaut, AIU, Volus Kickball, Valkyrie, Ghost, Geth Infi, Demolisher, Paladin, Novaguard, Krogan Sentinel to name a few (totally serious now)) that are harder to play and usually less effective,

It's hard to believe this is even serious. Some of then characters you mentioned are likely the best in the game.

[Nitrocuban]

The best Sentinel is the Paladin, and the Paladin is obviously an Engineer.
The best tank ist the Juggernaut.
Human Sentinel playes like a Asari Adept. Kinda ok.

So, yes, Sentinel is the worst class.

[Striker93175]

This has my vote for the worst class...



Just sayin.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

QU67 wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

Valkyrie is poorly designed, harder to play and usually less effective?!

Yes. Prove me wrong?

Let me Google that for you.

[Alijah Green]

maybe OP needs l2p

[TopTrog]

I agree there is no such thing as an obviously "worst class". For me it all depends on how a certain character fits to your natural playstyles. A few I have not even touched yet because I can´t really make sense of their power combinations (such as the Turian Saboteur), but I have seen ppl doing great with them, so surely there is a way to make every class both fun and effective to play. You could make a list of characters sorted by Damage Potential or something, but I think that will not tell you much about to how fun they actually are to play for you.

[Cyonan]

Player skill being the only factor in how well a kit performs is a myth filled with lies and epeen.

A good player can make a bad setup perform well, but they're still going to do better if they used a good setup.

[ToaOrka]

QU67 wrote...
(Juggernaut, AIU, Volus Kickball, Valkyrie, Ghost, Geth Infi, Demolisher, Paladin, Novaguard, Krogan Sentinel to name a few (totally serious now))

You're a very funny person.

[Thrasher91604]

For me Juggs, slow, no dodge, boring...

[Oni Changas]

Ghost and AIU ARE poorly desigened. Tanky Infiltrators?

Puggernaut is a n00b crutch.

Sabos powers have little synergy.

QM has saboutage and low shields... WTF?

[USIncorp0]

Novaguard is badly designed?

Okay, i've seen some pretty stupid things on the BSN, but this,
This is just,
I don't even...
I...

hmmm

all of the op arguments are meaningless to me right now.
i need a drink

[mandalorian sun]

haha i dunno, some people would argue the saboteur or the Vhunter are the worst, i personally have a special hate for quarian marksman. After the awesomeness of the engineer/infiltrator, the marksman was such a lame addition to the quarian race

[Ultimate Pheer]

QU67 wrote...
Sure there are some poorly designed characters (Juggernaut, AIU, Volus Kickball, Valkyrie, Ghost, Geth Infi, Demolisher, Paladin, Novaguard, Krogan Sentinel to name a few 

OP:                                                                    My Reaction:
Insults Juggernaut                                            "Well, he probably hasn't met some of the good ones"
Insults Volus Sentinel                                        "Not many people are good with it, but you should see me play"
Insults Demolisher                                             "Wait, what?"
Insults Valkyrie                                                  "Does he use the Valkyrie?"
Insults AIU                                                         "No, no no nonono NO."
Insults Ghost                                                    

Modifié par Ultimate Pheer, 13 juin 2013 - 10:46 .

[ISHYGDDT]

MasterReefa wrote...

QU67 wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

Valkyrie is poorly designed, harder to play and usually less effective?!

Yes. Prove me wrong?

1 clip anything in the game trololol.

tbh, that's not really an argument in favor of *good* design.

just saying.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 13 juin 2013 - 10:16 .

[ISHYGDDT]

MasterReefa wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

QU67 wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

Valkyrie is poorly designed, harder to play and usually less effective?!

Yes. Prove me wrong?

1 clip anything in the game trololol.

tbh, that's not really an argument in favor of *good* design.

just saying.

But it is an argument against her being less effective and harder to play.
Also blame the Reegar, just saying.

 Fair enough.  Although, are you saying warp+incenduary would be balanced w/o the darklord's influence?

[Wizard of Ox]

I curious as to why everybody here went crazy about the kits the OP named, except for the GI. This saddens me...

[Ultimate Pheer]

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

I curious as to why everybody here went crazy about the kits the OP named, except for the GI. This saddens me...

He what?

~Meanwhile, inside Pheer's brain:
[ERROR//NULL]]
[[CANNOT PROCESS//LOGIC FILTER FAILSAFES TRIPPED]]
[[ERROR//EXECUTION FAILURE]]
[[RAGE EXCEEDING OPERTATIONAL CAPACITY//RAGE CASCADE FAILURE IMMINENT]]
[[RAGE OVERFLOW//EMERGENCY RESTART]]
[[SHUTTING DOWN]]
[[REBOOTING]]
[[ERROR LOGGED: CLAIMING GETH INFILTRATOR IS BAD WILL OVERLOAD LOGIC AND RAGE PROCESSORS]]
[[ERROR LOGGED//SOLUTION LOGGED]]
[[SOLUTION LOGGED: GETH INFILTRATOR IS BEST- IGNORE ALL CLAIMS TO CONTRARY TO PROTECT LOGIC AND RAGE FILTERS]]

I'm sorry, what did you say?

[ISHYGDDT]

MasterReefa wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

QU67 wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

Valkyrie is poorly designed, harder to play and usually less effective?!

Yes. Prove me wrong?

1 clip anything in the game trololol.

tbh, that's not really an argument in favor of *good* design.

just saying.

But it is an argument against her being less effective and harder to play.
Also blame the Reegar, just saying.

 Fair enough.  Although, are you saying warp+incenduary would be balanced w/o the darklord's influence?

Yeah. W/I is fine with something like a hurricane, i actually prefer the straight damage boost Warp IV gives.

Same.

I don't necessarily think warp+incendiary is balanced w/o the Reegar, though.  I used to play a troll build asari adept with a claymore and incendiary IV and you could one-shot a gold brute.  That's not really something you can do with anything else in the game except a GI+Javelin+max consumables.  But, I'll leave it to rest because I love all flavors of incendiary cheese.

[Titus Thongger]

I don't even know what to think anymore