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[David7204]

So the slug whizzes by the left side of his or her face. At the very worst, it's a problem with animation not holding up incredibly well to frame-by-frame examination. I'm sure that's real uncommon?

[survivor_686]

Liara. Apart from her, nearly everyone can die.

[David7204]

Hazegurl wrote...

"The Shield of Main Characterdom, affectionately referred to as the SMC (pronounced smuck), is really quite self-explanatory. It has been used in television shows and motion pictures in order to keep the
main character alive until the end of the episode/movie, allowing the writers to slack off most of the time and not have to worry about writing an original and/or interesting ending."

What completely clueless idiot wrote this rubbish?

[Hazegurl]

Fixers0 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

That never happened.

And this is the part where you post a picture of a shot using a flycam. Flycam shots are not evidence of anything. The developers are not obligated to make every scene look good from every possible angle. That's ridiculous, and defeats the entire purpose of camerawork in the first place.

Actually I did, you're lying

This is from the standard camera angle everybody gets to see, you can even hear the rifle firing.

(snip)

Look at your picture closely. The projectile is PASSING Shep's face. The sparks from the gun firing is blocking Shep's face.

[remydat]

Fixers0 wrote...

Arrival, after waking, up one of the guards shoots shepard in the head.

At the start of this vid.  Although, I am not sure the guard actually hits Shep. Instead after waking up groggy, Shep magically floats like a buttefly and stings like a bee as she avoids two point blank gun shots.



Then there is this beauty where Shep's body somehow survives this fall from space.  Don't ask me how a body that slow can enter a planet's atmosphere, survive not burning to a crisp and then fall to the ground without turning into mush all while sustaining heavy damage to his N7 armour.

And finally there is also the fact that after spending 3 games trying to kill him the Intelligence decides to let Shep meet it with no Reaper backup and then lets him Destroy them if you so choose.  He could have easily stationed Marauders and Cannibals at the Citadel to bust a cap in Shep's ass if Shep decided to pick destory or refuse instead of synthesis or control.  But nope, the collective intelligence of the Reapers decides to put the entire fate of the galaxy and the Reapers in the hands of the dude they spend 3 games trying to kill.

Modifié par remydat, 15 juin 2013 - 07:51 .

[Hazegurl]

David7204 wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

"The Shield of Main Characterdom, affectionately referred to as the SMC (pronounced smuck), is really quite self-explanatory. It has been used in television shows and motion pictures in order to keep the
main character alive until the end of the episode/movie, allowing the writers to slack off most of the time and not have to worry about writing an original and/or interesting ending."

What completely clueless idiot wrote this rubbish?

I guess everyone. Considering the fact that even Family Guy makes fun of the obvious reference to main character shields.

[Fixers0]

David7204 wrote...
At the very worst, it's a problem with animation not holding up incredibly well to frame-by-frame examination. I'm sure that's real uncommon?

Well, it kinda should mean the dead of the main Character in an instant, you know it really is. animators shouldn't be that sloppy, but hey, Shepard knocked out those guys in full armour with one punch anyway, so yeah, I guess it's pretty common in Mass Effect.

Modifié par Fixers0, 15 juin 2013 - 07:49 .

[David7204]

What I meant was where did you pull that passage from?

[Fixers0]

remydat wrote...


At the start of this vid.  Although, I am not sure the guard actually hits Shep. Instead after waking up groggy, Shep magically floats like a buttefly and stings like a bee as she avoids two point blank gun shots.

Well, the screenshot i've posted shows quite clearly how Shepard miraciously manages to evade a shot (or not get damaged by it) when a gun is aimed right at his face.

Modifié par Fixers0, 15 juin 2013 - 07:51 .

[DirtySHISN0]

Hazegurl wrote...

Liara doesn't die in ME1 even if you pick her up last and she's gone weeks with no food or water or releasing her bowels.

I cant complain about ME1, i appreciated it for what it was well after its optimum period. E.g i only played it for the first time a month or two before 3 was released and even then it was equal to/greater than most of the then current games i was playing.

As for the food bit; they explained salarians as having a really high metabolism, only needing a fews hours sleep a day, but having reduced life span as a consequence. I always head canoned Asari as the opposite, not needing to eat very often to maintain themselves/slow metabolism.

[remydat]

Fixers0 wrote...

David7204 wrote...
At the very worst, it's a problem with animation not holding up incredibly well to frame-by-frame examination. I'm sure that's real uncommon?

Well, it kinda should mean the dead of the main Character in an instant, you know it really is. animators shouldn't be that sloppy, but hey, Shepard knocked out those guys in full armour with one punch anyway, so yeah, I guess it's pretty common in Mass Effect.

Like I said Muhammed Ali Shep.  Dodges two point blank gunshots and then with one punch lays out two cerberus goons wearing full body armor including helmets.

EDIT - Regarding your other post, I am agreeing with you.  Whether she magically dodged the bullets or was shot in the face twice is irrelevant.  Either scenario is plot armor.

Modifié par remydat, 15 juin 2013 - 07:56 .

[Fixers0]

remydat wrote...
Like I said Muhammed Ali Shep.  Dodges two point blank gunshots and then with one punch lays out two cerberus goons wearing full body armor including helmets.

Makes you wonder what these 2 dudes were doing in the first place, as they'll only enter the screen once that lady screams for help, appearantly they both looked away from the person they had to guard, isn't security supposed to be watchfull or something?

[remydat]

I presume they both decided to get a mocha latte from Space Starbucks at the exact same time.

[Hazegurl]

David7204 wrote...

What I meant was where did you pull that passage from?

ah. http://uncyclopedia....haracter_shield and also Plot-armor-Tv tropes, which popped up when i searched under character shield. I used this one cause it broke it down better than Tv tropes. 

[Hazegurl]

Fixers0 wrote...

remydat wrote...


At the start of this vid.  Although, I am not sure the guard actually hits Shep. Instead after waking up groggy, Shep magically floats like a buttefly and stings like a bee as she avoids two point blank gun shots.

Well, the screenshot i've posted shows quite clearly how Shepard miraciously manages to evade a shot (or not get damaged by it) when a gun is aimed right at his face.

I don't think anyone can deny that Shep had plot armor but the title of the thread is "Who has the MOST plot armor" Shepard has died and can die permenately in ME2.

[David7204]

You'll notice there are no examples for Mass Effect under Plot Armor aside from Miranda.

That being said, that entire page needs serious work. Particularly the section for video games. Over half of the examples are garbage and the definition is sloppy. Somebody really ought to go in and write a paper to get it cleaned up.

Shepard does not have Plot Armor. I can deny it.

Modifié par David7204, 15 juin 2013 - 08:04 .

[Fixers0]

Hazegurl wrote...

I don't think anyone can deny that Shep had plot armor but the title of the thread is "Who has the MOST plot armor" Shepard has died and can die permenately in ME2.

The Character which can never die is Hackett though, even in the lowest endings possible wher both Liara and the Normandy crew are dead, His ship is just dead in space.

[Fixers0]

David7204 wrote...
Shepard does not have Plot Armor. I can deny it.

Then you're lying. As i've pointed out a least two cases were Shepard, against all logic, avoids injury or dead.

[David7204]

Here's the Plot Armor page. If you think you can make a half-decent entry for Shepard that will last a day, by all means, give it a shot.

[Fixers0]

David7204 wrote...

Here's the Plot Armor page. If you think you can make a half-decent entry for Shepard that will last a day, by all means, give it a shot.

And I will take your silence as acknowledgement that you've been lying about your claim thay you were able to deny Shepard's plot armor.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Now, the vase in Donovan Hock's collection that Shepard shoots on the renegade interrupt? That has plot armor. Why? Because it shatters on the interrupt, but it is perfectly assembled after the fight. Amazing! I just noticed it last night.

[David7204]

Not only do I deny it, but plenty of people will agree with me. TV Tropes is not the BSN, you see. It takes much more to convince people than posting "BioWare writing lol" as is the norm here.

Modifié par David7204, 15 juin 2013 - 08:18 .

[Fixers0]

David7204 wrote...

Not only do I deny it, but plenty of people will agree with me. TV Tropes is not the BSN, you see.

Then by all means, please show me those plenty people who think taking a direct hit to the face without suffering any injury or dead isn't an example of plot armour. 

[David7204]

I'd love to. All you have to do is post that on the Plot Armor page. And keep reposting it once I take it down, of course.

[Fixers0]

David7204 wrote...

I'd love to. All you have to do is post that on the Plot Armor page. And keep reposting it once I take it down, of course.

But that means you're lying once again, as not only can't you deny that Shepard doesn't have plot armour, but now your claim that plenty of people agree with you is based on nothing.