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[Arrtis]

http://na.llnet.biow...nshot-085-p.jpg

i think hes a squadmate.

[Inverness Moon]

Arrtis wrote...

http://na.llnet.biow...nshot-085-p.jpg
i think hes a squadmate.

That screenshot makes me want to pet him. <3

Anyhow, it is quite obvious from that screenshot that Legion is in a cover position and not in a cutscene. Methinks it is further evidence of him being recruitable.

Modifié par Inverness Moon, 18 janvier 2010 - 09:28 .

[tom.bleaker]

It'll be amusing to see how polarizing Legion will be among squad-mates, whether he's recruitable or not. No squad-mate is likely to be friendly to it (maybe SuZe) and Tali will probably want to airlock it.

[Taradil]

If he is'nt recruitable I will be very disappointed. But very much indicates that he is, Bioware would'nt hype him so much if he was an enemy.

[Zegir]

Taradil wrote...

If he is'nt recruitable I will be very disappointed. But very much indicates that he is, Bioware would'nt hype him so much if he was an enemy.

lol. "Bioware would'nt hype him so much if he was an enemy." You know how that sounds, right?

Modifié par Zegir, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:55 .

[Rez275]

Well, judging purely by what I have heard from his soundtrack theme....he will probably serve multiple roles. Most of his track however sounds like an antagonist/boss fight tune.



There are Certain 'cues' from his track though that take inspiration from several others, most notably being Saren's/the game over theme from ME1, little bits that sound similar to Sovereign's theme, a part that has some of 'Normandy Reborn' in it, and another portion near the end that was the strangely ominous yet uplifting tune from the end of the enemies video that showed him.



All of this considered, I think he will be a villain, but may become an ally somewhere along the way, and then possibly take some kind of supremely heroic, especially villainous, or other shocking course of action towards the end.



Then again, the various parts of his theme might not all directly relate to him and simply be used for certain sections of the game.

[Behindyounow]

How would Bioware get around the whole "Everyone hates and fears the Geth" angle? Unless you recruit him towards the end of the game, so he only comes with you to the collector homeworld.



Also, his theme does sound rather evil, and it would make sense for the villain to have a theme too, as well as squad members.

[bohica01]

 One similar to Boba Fett.

[gnrfan228]

I really hope he isn't recruited at the end of the game, I want him right away!

[armass]

I saw Shepard and Grunt carrying Legion out of that red place while thane kept shooting husks. Hmm...

[Akrim_Drak]

Why are there so many Legion haters? >.> Are they all just Tali uh.. followers?



I'm rather interested to learn from a Geth about the Geth, not the obviously biased views of the Quarians. Legion could be one of your most useful allies I would think.



I dunno, I just don't see why so many are anti-Legion.

[Thargorichiban]

The most recent Sci vs Fi part 2 video shows Shepard and company helping what looks like Legion onto the Normandy... Not something you necessarily do to a seemingly wounded enemy, lol

[hawat333]

TheTWF wrote...

So you lack the imagination to see Legion accompanying Shepard on ventures in the Terminus systems... and thus he's the main villain of the game. Which technically makes him the leader of the Collectors.

I would need to be trilingual to know enough words to describe how much of a idiot you are.

And you, my kind sir, obviously never learned manners, neither have the creativity nor the imagination to consider the probability that the Collectors are the main enemy, but aren't the greatest threat and thus the main villain in the game

[Birdman117]

Thargorichiban wrote...

The most recent Sci vs Fi part 2 video shows Shepard and company helping what looks like Legion onto the Normandy... Not something you necessarily do to a seemingly wounded enemy, lol

This!

Shepard and Grunt are carrying Legion while Thane provides cover. You wouldn't be carrying an enemy to your ship like that.

[Inverness Moon]

Birdman117 wrote...

Thargorichiban wrote...

The most recent Sci vs Fi part 2 video shows Shepard and company helping what looks like Legion onto the Normandy... Not something you necessarily do to a seemingly wounded enemy, lol

This!

Shepard and Grunt are carrying Legion while Thane provides cover. You wouldn't be carrying an enemy to your ship like that.

And the fact that they're helping Legion walk rather than carrying him shows that he is most likely going voluntarily.

Get a load of that you Legion naysayers.

[Behindyounow]

Akrim_Drak wrote...

I dunno, I just don't see why so many are anti-Legion.

Its not legions character I dislike (although IMO He'd be cooler as a villain. The leader of the collectors doesn't seem very interesting).

Its just it doesn't make sense for everyone to suddenly be ok with a Geth walking down the street.

[Inverness Moon]

Behindyounow wrote...

Akrim_Drak wrote...

I dunno, I just don't see why so many are anti-Legion.

Its not legions character I dislike (although IMO He'd be cooler as a villain. The leader of the collectors doesn't seem very interesting).

Its just it doesn't make sense for everyone to suddenly be ok with a Geth walking down the street.

Who is everyone? And what makes you think that would be the case?

[Schneidend]

Legion's role will be tasting the business end of a shotgun if he isn't VERY careful. A.I. can't be trusted.

[Sialboats]

Celebrated Toaster/Coffee-Maker with booklight attachment.

[RiptideX1090]

I think... Legion will allow for Bioware to flesh out the Geth as more than mindless killers, and instead may introduce them more as tragic characters. In the first game, the geth were already showing organic tendencies, even having their own religion. Legion himself seems to be an extension of this, grafting Shepard's armor to himself, to show he is more than just a machine... he's an evolution of the geth, and the more they evolve, the more organic in nature they seem to become. The quarians feared they could not peacefully coexist with the sentient geth because they felt that AI would have no use for organics. We don't know if this was true. By Tali's account, the first sentient geth did not immediately rebel, but only did so when their survival was threatened. If the geth truly believed themselves superior to organics, they probably would have pursued the quarians, they did not. Up until the appearance of Sovereign, everything the geth have done follows a simple pattern, they want to survive, they don't want to fight, and after driving the hostile quarians out, they probably decided it would be best to remain isolated behind the veil, free from the organics who wanted to either enslave or murder them. They didn't go to war with the other species, they didn't follow the quarians and exterminate them.

The only time aside from the geth rebellion that the geth have ever pursued an active war campaign is under Sovereign's influence, and then only because they view it as a god. The thing is, Shepard and the Alliance killed that god, proving that the geth theory of synthetic supremacy that the geth who followed Sovereign had, was flawed.

Enter Legion, a geth free from the neural network, independent and able to make decisions on his own. Here is a geth who not only seemingly admires Shepard, but is in fact obsessed by him. He even welds Shepard's armor to his own. We know the geth are now divided into at least two factions. I'm guessing that there are the geth who still believe in Sovereign's goals of organic extermination, and a new faction that does not. Having independence would grant Legion the ability to be a formidable leader. I'm guessing he's leading a revolution. I don't know whether he wants to return the geth to isoloation such as before Sovereign's arrival, or if he wants to forge an alliance with organics, knowing that the Reapers only plan to use the geth for their own ends.

This is the best educated guess I can offer.

We know he's obsessed with Shepard, we know he probably looks up to him, respects, or even admires him, an organic.We know he's broken free of the other geth, including the ones that view Sovereign as a god. Whatever Legion's role is in the game, I'm sure it will be interesting, and I think the geth will have an interesting role in ME2 and 3.

A week until we find out.

Modifié par RiptideX1090, 19 janvier 2010 - 10:34 .

[Behindyounow]

Inverness Moon wrote...

]Who is everyone? And what makes you think that would be the case?

The Geth are known are as evil synthetics that want to destroy all life. Whether or not Legion is, it doesn't matter.

[Novacain999]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

I think... Legion will allow for Bioware to flesh out the Geth as more than mindless killers, and instead may introduce them more as tragic characters. In the first game, the geth were already showing organic tendencies, even having their own religion. Legion himself seems to be an extension of this, grafting Shepard's armor to himself, to show he is more than just a machine... he's an evolution of the geth, and the more they evolve, the more organic in nature they seem to become. The quarians feared they could not peacefully coexist with the sentient geth because they felt that AI would have no use for organics. We don't know if this was true. By Tali's account, the first sentient geth did not immediately rebel, but only did so when their survival was threatened. If the geth truly believed themselves superior to organics, they probably would have pursued the quarians, they did not. Up until the appearance of Sovereign, everything the geth have done follows a simple pattern, they want to survive, they don't want to fight, and after driving the hostile quarians out, they probably decided it would be best to remain isolated behind the veil, free from the organics who wanted to either enslave or murder them. They didn't go to war with the other species, they didn't follow the quarians and exterminate them.

The only time aside from the geth rebellion that the geth have ever pursued an active war campaign is under Sovereign's influence, and then only because they view it as a god. The thing is, Shepard and the Alliance killed that god, proving that the geth theory of synthetic supremacy that the geth who followed Sovereign had, was flawed.

Enter Legion, a geth free from the neural network, independent and able to make decisions on his own. Here is a geth who not only seemingly admires Shepard, but is in fact obsessed by him. He even welds Shepard's armor to his own. We know the geth are now divided into at least two factions. I'm guessing that there are the geth who still believe in Sovereign's goals of organic extermination, and a new faction that does not. Having independence would grant Legion the ability to be a formidable leader. I'm guessing he's leading a revolution. I don't know whether he wants to return the geth to isoloation such as before Sovereign's arrival, or if he wants to forge an alliance with organics, knowing that the Reapers only plan to use the geth for their own ends.

This is the best educated guess I can offer.

We know he's obsessed with Shepard, we know he probably looks up to him, respects, or even admires him, an organic.We know he's broken free of the other geth, including the ones that view Sovereign as a god. Whatever Legion's role is in the game, I'm sure it will be interesting, and I think the geth will have an interesting role in ME2 and 3.

A week until we find out.

Kudos. You basically typed what I wanted to with a lot less typos. My thoughts exactly

[Jax Montag]

Ok first off *JADE EMPIRE SPOILERS*



My Theory is that Legion will play a similar role to Death's Hand in Jade Empire where he is your enemy for most of the game, then close to the end you can "turn him." In this case I think it will be about the same only you will end up hacking him instead... I also think that he is not counted as one of Bioware's 10 announced squad members, and there will be someone else... Though that is essentially disproved by the achievement list, but... whatever...

[Jax Montag]

Haha I didn't read the whole thread and didn't realize my idea had already been posted... Sorry for restating your post Tehellet.