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[Ausstig]

Hello Templar suppourters 

Since the last thread got derailed and locked here is a new
on for the discussion of support for the Templars, ideas on to show their points
in the argument, what type of structure the order should have during the war,
how they should end the war.  


If certain people come in and troll and derail this thread I
will report you, there are three other threads for debate this is not one of
them. 





Right here goes

please play nice

[Xilizhra]

How should the templars be reformed? The idea of a group of antimagic warriors to protect mages from demons has its sound points, and I believe they might be able to work if they deemphasize the parts about locking up mages (again, the focus being on protecting mages from demons) become a secular order that's attached to an independent Circle, and stop monopolizing their secrets.

[LobselVith8]

Ausstig wrote...

Hello Templar suppourters 

Since the last thread got derailed and locked here is a new on for the discussion of support for the Templars, ideas on to show their points in the argument, what type of structure the order should have during the war, how they should end the war.  

I suppose Cassandra and Cullen merit discussion for you as well, given the possibility of them being companions in Inquisition.

Ausstig wrote...

If certain people come in and troll and derail this thread I will report you, there are three other threads for debate this is not one of them. 

You should be happy with the possible prospect of the templar background that some speculate from the promo (the one with the rings on the hand of the Inquisitor that seems to represent certain factions).

[BlueMagitek]

Cassandra is a Seeker.

Sadly, I highly doubt that the Templar will return to the status quo, but they should research some means of emulating their abilities or expanding upon them, with or without lyrium.

[LobselVith8]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Cassandra is a Seeker. 

The two are intertwined, to the point where some pro-templar fans have called them 'elite templars'.

[BlueMagitek]

Except they're described as a different faction.

Shall I assume that Keepers, Circle Mages and Witches of the Wild are all on the same side?

Regardless, that is off topic.

[LobselVith8]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Except they're described as a different faction.

Shall I assume that Keepers, Circle Mages and Witches of the Wild are all on the same side?

I see it more like how the Keeper and the First are members of the Dalish clan.

BlueMagitek wrote...

Regardless, that is off topic.

I'm honestly surprised you're offended at the prospect of people, including pro-templar fans, discussing the inclusion of Cassandra in Inquisition.

[BlueMagitek]

This is not a topic about Seekers, it is a topic about Templars. If you want to discuss the interaction between Seeker and Templar, you are free to do so.

[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Cassandra is a Seeker. 

The two are intertwined, to the point where some pro-templar fans have called them 'elite templars'.

After Asunder, I'd guess that Cassandra's faction might  different from the templars, in goals and methods.

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The two are intertwined, to the point where some pro-templar fans have called them 'elite templars'.

After Asunder, I'd guess that Cassandra's faction might  different from the templars, in goals and methods. 

I imagine some Seekers and templars have remained loyal to Divine Justina V.

[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The two are intertwined, to the point where some pro-templar fans have called them 'elite templars'.

After Asunder, I'd guess that Cassandra's faction might  different from the templars, in goals and methods. 

I imagine some Seekers and templars have remained loyal to Divine Justina V.

Considering DA2's ending and DAI's trailer, I'd guess the Chantry has an army again.

[Luiren]

I felt much more obliged to support the Templars in DA2, because I think there was a bit more perspective of the dangers of magic that time around.

[Hazegurl]

Yay! keeping the Templar love strong!

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I imagine some Seekers and templars have remained loyal to Divine Justina V. 

Considering DA2's ending and DAI's trailer, I'd guess the Chantry has an army again. 

Apparently so. I wonder what their reaction will be to the new Inquisition - I suppose the 'portal' might be a reason behind the creation of this new faction. Perhaps Cassandra or Cullen might investigate them - from their respective factions (unless Cullen sided with Divine Justina's faction during the schism and another character represents the interests of the Lambert faction).

[Hazegurl]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Cassandra is a Seeker.

Sadly, I highly doubt that the Templar will return to the status quo, but they should research some means of emulating their abilities or expanding upon them, with or without lyrium.

It would be awesome if they figured out a way to do what they do without lyrium. No more addictions, perhaps it could pave the way to handling mages who practice blood magic.

[Xilizhra]

I continue to wonder about responses to my idea about reforms.

[Senya]

They sound like a step in the right direction, Xil. It depends if the Mages would submit to a non-Mage police force using Templar abilities, though, instead of policing themselves, and come quietly when accused of a crime while the said police force is kept from being corrupted.

[LobselVith8]

Xilizhra wrote...

I continue to wonder about responses to my idea about reforms.

I'm a little surprised that no one is discussing the speculation about the promo picture of the apparent Inquisitor wearing a ring with the templar symbol - which sparked discussion about the protagonist being able to have a background (and likely a current occupation) as a templar.

[BlueMagitek]

Hazegurl wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Cassandra is a Seeker.

Sadly, I highly doubt that the Templar will return to the status quo, but they should research some means of emulating their abilities or expanding upon them, with or without lyrium.

It would be awesome if they figured out a way to do what they do without lyrium. No more addictions, perhaps it could pave the way to handling mages who practice blood magic.

There is the Spirit Warrior, which does do additional damage to demons, and allows the Warrior to gain some magic resistance.  Unfortunately, it requires a spirit connection to the Fade.  Which, as our friend Anders has shown us, is not the best of ideas.

Sadly, there's no Divine magic to turn to in place of Arcane, so any anti-magic capability would most likely be magical in nature, unless the Templar is somehow able to use his own soul (which does exist in Thedas) to combat magic.

[Xilizhra]

almostinsane99 wrote...

They sound like a step in the right direction, Xil. It depends if the Mages would submit to a non-Mage police force using Templar abilities, though, instead of policing themselves, and come quietly when accused of a crime while the said police force is kept from being corrupted.

Well, it's generally a poor idea to count on criminals just submitting in any case. Of course, it's wholly illegal for any national guards to interfere with them unless they do harm to other citizens.

[TexasToast712]

Hazegurl wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Cassandra is a Seeker.

Sadly, I highly doubt that the Templar will return to the status quo, but they should research some means of emulating their abilities or expanding upon them, with or without lyrium.

It would be awesome if they figured out a way to do what they do without lyrium. No more addictions, perhaps it could pave the way to handling mages who practice blood magic.

They already can. Alistair, the Warden, Hawke, and any DAO followers who have the specialization are proof of that. I also doubt that they are lyrium addicts.

I dont remember where it is stated, but I believe Alistair states the lyrium just enhances the already effective Templar abilities.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 15 juin 2013 - 01:36 .

[The Elder King]

LobselVith8 wrote...



Apparently so. I wonder what their reaction will be to the new Inquisition - I suppose the 'portal' might be a reason behind the creation of this new faction. Perhaps Cassandra or Cullen might investigate them - from their respective factions (unless Cullen sided with Divine Justina's faction during the schism and another character represents the interests of the Lambert faction).

The Inquisition should have at the start a neutral approach towards faction, considering that the PC should be able to choose which faction support, if there'll be some choices to make.
Maybe one between Cullen and Cassandra decide to abandon their previous allegiances and become full-blown inquisitor.

Modifié par hhh89, 15 juin 2013 - 01:36 .

[Senya]

Xilizhra wrote...

almostinsane99 wrote...

They sound like a step in the right direction, Xil. It depends if the Mages would submit to a non-Mage police force using Templar abilities, though, instead of policing themselves, and come quietly when accused of a crime while the said police force is kept from being corrupted.

Well, it's generally a poor idea to count on criminals just submitting in any case. Of course, it's wholly illegal for any national guards to interfere with them unless they do harm to other citizens.

The police do have cause, however, should they possess a dangerous weapon that is outlawed or perform experiments that are outlawed as well.

[BlueMagitek]

That has since been retconed.

Hawke, however, gets his lyrium fix from underground sources.

[Senya]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I continue to wonder about responses to my idea about reforms.

I'm a little surprised that no one is discussing the speculation about the promo picture of the apparent Inquisitor wearing a ring with the templar symbol - which sparked discussion about the protagonist being able to have a background (and likely a current occupation) as a templar.

That would be interesting in one of my playthroughs. I'll probably play as a Circle Mage first, though. Or maybe one of the backgrounds I missed from Origins like a noble or one that has never appeared before.