TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
DKJaigen wrote...
Now your being silly once again. some things can be avoided with proper planning and forethought and some things you cannot. a demonic invasion was something the templars could have foreseen. And what has chantry leadership brought thedas? death , destruction and chaos. I dont see the appeal of chantry goverenance of magic here lotion.
Well true slaughter in orphanage was enough to let demon get inside real world but still circle mages can't help in that because they don't know how so they aren't needed always we can hire few tevinter mages to do that and problem solved.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Well true slaughter in orphanage was enough to let demon get inside real world but still circle mages can't help in that because they don't know how so they aren't needed always we can hire few tevinter mages to do that and problem solved.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
dragonflight288 wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Well true slaughter in orphanage was enough to let demon get inside real world but still circle mages can't help in that because they don't know how so they aren't needed always we can hire few tevinter mages to do that and problem solved.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
And why would Tevinter help in a society where the Templars have abandoned the Chantry so they can kill/tranquilize all mages?
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
DKJaigen wrote...
Now your being silly once again. some things can be avoided with proper planning and forethought and some things you cannot. a demonic invasion was something the templars could have foreseen. And what has chantry leadership brought thedas? death , destruction and chaos. I dont see the appeal of chantry goverenance of magic here lotion.
No, you are being silly.
A demonic invasion was something one could forsee? Really?
Whens the last time it happened?
And assuming you could - what can you do about it? What reasonable congingency can you have? And why is is the Chantry sutiy, and not the specific kingdoms?
Also, Chantry leadership brought stability and unitiy. I don't see the appeal of the opposite.
DKJaigen wrote...
When it happend ? several times simply not on the scale we have seen in DAI. or have you forgotten wardens keep or the black march?
Modifié par addiction21, 03 novembre 2013 - 02:05 .
addiction21 wrote...
DKJaigen wrote...
When it happend ? several times simply not on the scale we have seen in DAI. or have you forgotten wardens keep or the black march?
neither are common knowledge in Thdas or even invasions. Try again.
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Well true slaughter in orphanage was enough to let demon get inside real world but still circle mages can't help in that because they don't know how so they aren't needed always we can hire few tevinter mages to do that and problem solved.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
And why would Tevinter help in a society where the Templars have abandoned the Chantry so they can kill/tranquilize all mages?
Well not everyone loves own country and many cares about themselves and maybe their family just give offer someone that what person want like money or power and you will get their loyalty to the moment when they get better opportunity.Second i won't be with chantry and templars and will work to put them down as well mages but last part tevinter won't know so alliance to the moment when i screw them to the chantry and let them kill each other.
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Well true slaughter in orphanage was enough to let demon get inside real world but still circle mages can't help in that because they don't know how so they aren't needed always we can hire few tevinter mages to do that and problem solved.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
And why would Tevinter help in a society where the Templars have abandoned the Chantry so they can kill/tranquilize all mages?
Well not everyone loves own country and many cares about themselves and maybe their family just give offer someone that what person want like money or power and you will get their loyalty to the moment when they get better opportunity.Second i won't be with chantry and templars and will work to put them down as well mages but last part tevinter won't know so alliance to the moment when i screw them to the chantry and let them kill each other.
Dumat would argue with you.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Well true slaughter in orphanage was enough to let demon get inside real world but still circle mages can't help in that because they don't know how so they aren't needed always we can hire few tevinter mages to do that and problem solved.DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
And why would Tevinter help in a society where the Templars have abandoned the Chantry so they can kill/tranquilize all mages?
Well not everyone loves own country and many cares about themselves and maybe their family just give offer someone that what person want like money or power and you will get their loyalty to the moment when they get better opportunity.Second i won't be with chantry and templars and will work to put them down as well mages but last part tevinter won't know so alliance to the moment when i screw them to the chantry and let them kill each other.
Yeah . i dont think the tevinter imperium is that stupid.
Hazegurl wrote...
It is never a good idea to allow
a bunch of seasoned blood mages who probably know every demonic spell
in the book into your country. The belief that you could guage their
loyalty to their own country and devise a plan to get rid of them based
on this supposed loyalty has too many unknowns to consider.
Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 03 novembre 2013 - 04:20 .
In the last pages of Asunder, Lamberts reveals his plan is to bring the mages under control again. Not even once does he mention murder ot Tranquility and continuing to repeat "kill/tranquilize all mages" is not going to change that fact.dragonflight288 wrote...
And why would Tevinter help in a society where the Templars have abandoned the Chantry so they can kill/tranquilize all mages?
Let me put it this way. In the entire history of recorded Thedas, there has never been a demon invasion of this scale before which is completely unprecedented. It also is not in fact a result of humans killing each other ether or the war. There have been much more bloody conflicts in the history of mankind, least of which was the first blight. As for the smaller veil breaches, those are small enough that while they can still cause considerable damage, they can appear to be contained.DKJaigen wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
DKJaigen wrote...
When it happend ? several times simply not on the scale we have seen in DAI. or have you forgotten wardens keep or the black march?
neither are common knowledge in Thdas or even invasions. Try again.
Not common knowledge but the templar order should know of it.
So if it was inevitable, then exactly what do you expect the Templars to do to prevent it?DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
HiroVoid wrote...
Let me put it this way. In the entire history of recorded Thedas, there has never been a demon invasion of this scale before which is completely unprecedented. It also is not in fact a result of humans killing each other ether or the war. There have been much more bloody conflicts in the history of mankind, least of which was the first blight. As for the smaller veil breaches, those are small enough that while they can still cause considerable damage, they can appear to be contained.DKJaigen wrote...
addiction21 wrote...
DKJaigen wrote...
When it happend ? several times simply not on the scale we have seen in DAI. or have you forgotten wardens keep or the black march?
neither are common knowledge in Thdas or even invasions. Try again.
Not common knowledge but the templar order should know of it.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
So if it was inevitable, then exactly what do you expect the Templars to do to prevent it?DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
Modifié par DKJaigen, 03 novembre 2013 - 09:40 .
Schneidend wrote...
Anders is an anarchistic nutjob.
...How does pointing out that Blood Magic is apparently even more dangerous than originally thought helping your cause, exactly?
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Lord Raijin wrote...
The Circle of Magi does NOT have to be a nessassary evil if it was run properly. Nobody wants to abolish the Circle, just want the Chantry to abandon it so that mages could be the true leaders, not the templars and the Chantry.
NEVER.
EVER.
Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 03 novembre 2013 - 09:55 .
Lord Raijin wrote...
I'm afraid I think differently about the whole situation with Anders. I don't find it insane to fight for your freedom and for the freedom of others. Whats insane is complaining about how poorly you're being mistreated, and not doing a damn thing about it. Thats insane. I don't also view Anders as an anarchist either.
The Chantry choosed to inflict war against the mages over an inaccurate pretense, and using it to spread lies and fear to society for the sole purpose to get them on their side.
What are you talking about? Were talking about non-mages not being immuned to demonic posssession. The fact that they too are at riask for demonic posessesion, and not just mages.
In both games they've failed to do so.Lord Raijin wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Lord Raijin wrote...
The Circle of Magi does NOT have to be a nessassary evil if it was run properly. Nobody wants to abolish the Circle, just want the Chantry to abandon it so that mages could be the true leaders, not the templars and the Chantry.
NEVER.
EVER.
And why not? Why are you opposed self policing? Mages can police themselves if they were given the opportunity to.
Ah so basically you are just talking ****, because you know absolutely nothing of what you are talking. Nothing new I guess. Moving on.DKJaigen wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
So if it was inevitable, then exactly what do you expect the Templars to do to prevent it?DKJaigen wrote...
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Yes but how big chances are that non-mage will be possessed almost none because demon must be forced by mage or somehow get to real world what without mage is possible only by torn veil and there is no other way without mage there is no demons.
Since humans have a tendency of killing each other a torn veil was inevtivable
The current templars? absolutely ****ing nothing. They are to weak, ignorant and lack the skills to close a fade tear. doesnt excuse their incompetence however.
But if you want to make a start i suggest the first rule would be : do not become red lyrium demon lovers.
Precisely. It's also why I've mentioned multiple times why the mage-templar war(if it's even a war yet with big battles) isn't the cause of the veil tear. There have certainly been much larger and bloody conflicts in the history of Thedas than the one going on now. Whatever's behind the veil tear is obviously someone or a group of people manipulating events for a specific purpose (Most likely involving Flemeth in some capacity due to Morrigan's role in the story).Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
The veil has been torn many times before in history and there has never been a hole in the sky so dramatic and demonic invasion on such a scale. Whatever caused the tear in the fade is something new, not just people killing eachother. If it has never happened before in recorded history, nor has there been a precedent to make them think it's possible,m I don't think the templars can be blamed for not being prepared for the giant veil tear.
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