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[EmperorSahlertz]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I don't buy that.

Qunari run around shirtless. All their strength acounts to nothing against crossbow bolts.

And 500 is defiantely not enough to take a city state.

Their physiology is tough enough for them to survive a crossbow bolt. Besides, the Viddathari are there to be hit.
And an elite force can conquer what many times their own number of normal soldiers couldn't. The Qunari also struck an immediate and crippling blow to the leadership of Kirkwall, effectively shutting down the city's chain of command. Nummerical superiority amounts to little if command is shut down, and the Qunari are obviously the superior fighters. The Templars and mages could probably have put up a fight on their own, but they were not likely to succeed. Without Hawke that is. Hawke changed everything.

[EmperorSahlertz]

DKJaigen wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

DKJaigen wrote...

If you wish to believe that the templars are uncorruptable be my guest . you are going to be proven wrong. But from my point view the mages are needed to close the fade tears. and if the templars get in the way they die.

I am not saying that the Templars are incorruptable. I am saying taht I am not willing, contrary to you, to make some **** statement that ALL Templars are now Red Templars, or that the Red Templars are demon worshippers. And my unwillingness to do so, stems simply from the fact that WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THEM! Is that really so hard to get for you?

Where their is smoke their is fire. but you seem to blinded by the smoke so you cannot see the fire. Anyway the templar supporters still have not given me a reason to support their little mage hunt.

Yes. Where there is smoke there is a fire. The smoke being that we see the Red Templars attacking the Inquisition, and the fire being that we must conclude that the Red Templars are enemies of some kind.

You go the step further after seeing this "smoke" and immediately claim that the smoke is a result of an erupting volcano, by claiming that the Red Templars are demon worshippers and that ALL Templars are now Red Templars.
Simply put, you are drawing an aweful lot of conclusions based on no evidence.

[LOLandStuff]

Claiming all templars are red templars is like saying every mage is a blood mage.

And a reason for a mage hunt are the Fade Tears all over the place. Who else could you blame but mages for it?

[Xilizhra]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Claiming all templars are red templars is like saying every mage is a blood mage.

And a reason for a mage hunt are the Fade Tears all over the place. Who else could you blame but mages for it?

There are templars still connected with the Chantry, yes? Also, it's quite possible that there are demons responsible for the tears, not mages.

[EmperorSahlertz]

The Templar Order left the Chantry. If a Templar chose to remain loyal to the Chantry, he would no longer be a Templar.

[Xilizhra]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

The Templar Order left the Chantry. If a Templar chose to remain loyal to the Chantry, he would no longer be a Templar.

Templar in class specialization terms, then. Or perhaps a "new Templar order" founded to be loyal to the Chantry.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Claiming all templars are red templars is like saying every mage is a blood mage.

And a reason for a mage hunt are the Fade Tears all over the place. Who else could you blame but mages for it?

There are templars still connected with the Chantry, yes? Also, it's quite possible that there are demons responsible for the tears, not mages.

Other than the Chantry-loyal templars, the templars that declared war to the mages could've split up between 'normal' templars and red templars. We don't have enough info to be sure about the organization of the templars and the Seekers in Inquisition.
About the Fade tears, I agree that the mages aren't necessarily involved with it.

[Xilizhra]

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Claiming all templars are red templars is like saying every mage is a blood mage.

And a reason for a mage hunt are the Fade Tears all over the place. Who else could you blame but mages for it?

There are templars still connected with the Chantry, yes? Also, it's quite possible that there are demons responsible for the tears, not mages.

Other than the Chantry-loyal templars, the templars that declared war to the mages could've split up between 'normal' templars and red templars. We don't have enough info to be sure about the organization of the templars and the Seekers in Inquisition.
About the Fade tears, I agree that the mages aren't necessarily involved with it.

One thing we almost certainly know: Lambert will not appear, due to being both a book character and probably dead. And even World of Thedas says he's MIA. Hence, the templars would be rendered leaderless for at least a while, which could lead to many different outcomes.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

One thing we almost certainly know: Lambert will not appear, due to being both a book character and probably dead. And even World of Thedas says he's MIA. Hence, the templars would be rendered leaderless for at least a while, which could lead to many different outcomes.

Indeed, I don't think that Lambert will appear. And the lack of a central leader (though it could be that the templars have a new capable and charismastic leader) might have lead to divisions in the templars.

[Xilizhra]

hhh89 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

One thing we almost certainly know: Lambert will not appear, due to being both a book character and probably dead. And even World of Thedas says he's MIA. Hence, the templars would be rendered leaderless for at least a while, which could lead to many different outcomes.

Indeed, I don't think that Lambert will appear. And the lack of a central leader (though it could be that the templars have a new capable and charismastic leader) might have lead to divisions in the templars.

Of course, their new leader might have led all of them into becoming Red Templars.

[The Elder King]

Xilizhra wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Indeed, I don't think that Lambert will appear. And the lack of a central leader (though it could be that the templars have a new capable and charismastic leader) might have lead to divisions in the templars.

Of course, their new leader might have led all of them into becoming Red Templars.

Yes, it's possible. I don't think we should rule out any outcome, until we have more info.

[dragonflight288]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

The Templar Order left the Chantry. If a Templar chose to remain loyal to the Chantry, he would no longer be a Templar.

Oh? Wouldn't it be the other way around, those who left the Chantry, including the lyrium that the Chantry controls all trade on beyond smugglers, wouldn't they cease to be templars?

[TheKomandorShepard]

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 07 novembre 2013 - 05:20 .

[dragonflight288]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

That would be cool. Lambert would be like Kai Leng in ME3, the one person who can best Shepard/Inquisitor until the final fight.

[Hellion Rex]

dragonflight288 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

That would be cool. Lambert would be like Kai Leng in ME3, the one person who can best Shepard/Inquisitor until the final fight.

Hah. Nope. I'd turn to blood magic just to boil that guy's blood.

[Hazegurl]

Gallimatia wrote...

Anders is an irrelevant shareholder in his body. What does Anders altruism, motives and regret matter when as soon as they are at a conflict with Justice ideas of justice he will blackout and lose control of his body?

Left unchecked Justice will keep killing until there's two people left in the world. Then it will kill one for mistreating the other and then it will kill the last for failing to give Justice just praise. It will always find injustice and it will always use extreme measures to correct it because it doesn't care about anything else. Even in a dalish utopia with only blood mages it would find it's victims and feed it's hunger for justice.

If your agenda happen to coincide with Justice's injustice of the day you may find it a useful ally but failing to take advantage of a moment in time where Justice felt it deserved death could be costly because Justice has ungodly power. If for instance it wanted to kill Hawke and Hawke's team it would and there's nothing Anders could do to stop it. Of course that's also the charm with keeping it. It can just as easily kill a band of Templars.

Very good point. I honestly believe Anders himself died, perhaps when he was going to kill that innocent mage who called him a demon or sometime after that. Idk. All we see eventually is nothing more than a husk with Justice inside and some of Anders' memories.

[TheKomandorShepard]

dragonflight288 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

That would be cool. Lambert would be like Kai Leng in ME3, the one person who can best Shepard/Inquisitor until the final fight.

To be honest it would be better if they did that like in fallout new vegas for example divine-mr house , lambert-legat and mage leader ncr (it is hard find example here because they don't have badass maybe oliver) so my point is that you could choose who your enemy will be so in new vegas main plot we have main 3 factions and 4 options to do NCR , mr house , Legion and wild card (independence) so for example if you take mages side your enemy will templars and main oponent lambert if you take templars side you end with mage leader as opponent and wild card will be you go against trio and set own rules or whatever you wan't achieve dependent as who you play.    

[Hellion Rex]

Hazegurl wrote...

Gallimatia wrote...

Anders is an irrelevant shareholder in his body. What does Anders altruism, motives and regret matter when as soon as they are at a conflict with Justice ideas of justice he will blackout and lose control of his body?

Left unchecked Justice will keep killing until there's two people left in the world. Then it will kill one for mistreating the other and then it will kill the last for failing to give Justice just praise. It will always find injustice and it will always use extreme measures to correct it because it doesn't care about anything else. Even in a dalish utopia with only blood mages it would find it's victims and feed it's hunger for justice.

If your agenda happen to coincide with Justice's injustice of the day you may find it a useful ally but failing to take advantage of a moment in time where Justice felt it deserved death could be costly because Justice has ungodly power. If for instance it wanted to kill Hawke and Hawke's team it would and there's nothing Anders could do to stop it. Of course that's also the charm with keeping it. It can just as easily kill a band of Templars.

Very good point. I honestly believe Anders himself died, perhaps when he was going to kill that innocent mage who called him a demon or sometime after that. Idk. All we see eventually is nothing more than a husk with Justice inside and some of Anders' memories.

Idk why, but that line of thinking reminds me of Cole. All spirit, but still retains the memory of the original.

[Hellion Rex]

dragonflight288 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

That would be cool. Lambert would be like Kai Leng in ME3, the one person who can best Shepard/Inquisitor until the final fight.

If Lambert is Kai Leng, then who is he working for? ;)That is the big question.

[Hazegurl]

Templar standing strong!

[Hellion Rex]

Hazegurl wrote...


Templar standing strong!

Ironically with a mage nehind him .

[Hazegurl]

eluvianix wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

That would be cool. Lambert would be like Kai Leng in ME3, the one person who can best Shepard/Inquisitor until the final fight.

If Lambert is Kai Leng, then who is he working for? ;)That is the big question.

TIM, obviously. He's been working on Cerberus for centuries due to reaper tech keeping him alive.

[Hellion Rex]

Hazegurl wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

I hope lambert will appear he was only badass and worthy character in this book ( i don't say that other character was bad) and rly my mage inquisitor needs enemies and lambert would be worthy opponent cause divine and fiona don't look as chalange.

That would be cool. Lambert would be like Kai Leng in ME3, the one person who can best Shepard/Inquisitor until the final fight.

If Lambert is Kai Leng, then who is he working for? ;)That is the big question.

TIM, obviously. He's been working on Cerberus for centuries due to reaper tech keeping him alive.

Too many mysteries! I both hate it and love it.

[Hazegurl]

eluvianix wrote...
Ironically with a mage nehind him .

Who put other mages down like a dog. My kind of girl.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 07 novembre 2013 - 06:04 .

[Hellion Rex]

Hazegurl wrote...

eluvianix wrote...
Ironically with a mage nehind him .

Who put other mages down like a dog. My kind of girl.

I will agree that Tevinter did indeed have a smack down coming their way.

Modifié par eluvianix, 07 novembre 2013 - 06:07 .