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The *I support the Templars* Thread V2


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TheKomandorShepard

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

Everyone being at risk of demon possession would be a pretty big point against turing everyone into mages. Maybe it would force everyone to research into preventing demonic possession that is beyond tranquility. Maybe we get an apocalypse were abominations rule Thedas.


Rule? Well rahter kill everyone in it not rule as far we didn't saw abomnation what wasn't this

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SgtSteel91

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I meant rule as in being the dominate thing. You'd see more abominations that sane people.

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

I meant rule as in being the dominate thing. You'd see more abominations that sane people.


Well it is called da 2 :lol:

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Master Warder Z wrote...

DKJaigen wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I'm just going to wait until Inquisition comes out and see how all of this plays out before I start coming up with ideas on how to bring back / change the system.

Pretty much

I have an idea on what I would do if I had complete control, but since I do not wlIm gonna wait and see what we get.


Well this is little besides speculation and headcannon at the moment, although i personally think i would be slightly disapointed if you cannot brutally put down the rebellion and drag the surviving refuse back to the various circles.




I hope you can. and then the game over cutscenes should roll as the templar and mundanes armies are simply overwhelmed by demons. And then at the  execution of your inquisitor the one that orchestrated the events will mock you for being such an usefull tool for him. By default i cannot support the templars because they are idiots who are likely manipulated,


That's pure lunancy and your usage of the racial slur "Mundane" tells where your own personal alleigance lies.

Let me guess you think an army of soft robes that lack combat expreince and tactical awareness would do better? espeically fighting against opponents that can possess them hrm?

I do believe this is one of those situations where speaking your own opinion merely resulted in the person just ignoring it.

And i could agrue the same for the mages considering Anders was Possessed and Justice very easily could have been taking orders once it become a demon.

:/

Circular logic is a two edged sword.



Is this pissing match still going on?Both sides suck and need to get their sh*t together otherwise my Inquisitor will kill them both.Btw since when is mundane and soft robes racial slurs?You guys are getting a little too involved in this fictional conflict if you ask me.

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I was looking at this GIF and couldn't help but to laugh... but at the same time I realize that it is the truth. Templars represses the mages when they start speaking their minds, and BAM! R.o.T :)

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The problem is that the templars didn't Tranquilize Anders the first SIX times he escaped from the Circle Tower.

And that Meredith didn't lock down the Kirkwall tower and force Orsino to hand over all his work so that she could found out he was assisting a murderer learn how to make Harvesters.

Yes, I would completely be part fo the Mage Internal Affairs.  Because somebody needs too - and the Tempalrs traded that job for fear and fascism and can't even due those two things correctly.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

The problem is that the templars didn't Tranquilize Anders the first SIX times he escaped from the Circle Tower.

And that Meredith didn't lock down the Kirkwall tower and force Orsino to hand over all his work so that she could found out he was assisting a murderer learn how to make Harvesters.

Yes, I would completely be part fo the Mage Internal Affairs.  Because somebody needs too - and the Tempalrs traded that job for fear and fascism and can't even due those two things correctly.


Except, Anders didn't do anything but escape. Even Apostates are brought back to the Circle, with no tranquility. To Tranquilize an already Harrowed mage would need a more serious reason than simply trying to escape.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

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I was looking at this GIF and couldn't help but to laugh... but at the same time I realize that it is the truth. Templars represses the mages when they start speaking their minds, and BAM! R.o.T :)


I love that gif.

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Medhia Nox

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Yes, I know - it's just such a shame someone didn't tranquilize him before he proved to be an untrustworthy coward of a Grey Warden - and a terrorist bomber.

I have as much of a problem with his failure among the Grey Wardens as I do with his terrorist attack.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

Yes, I know - it's just such a shame someone didn't tranquilize him before he proved to be an untrustworthy coward of a Grey Warden - and a terrorist bomber.

I have as much of a problem with his failure among the Grey Wardens as I do with his terrorist attack.


Except he didn't do anything but escape. It's not like he killed of the templars who brought him back...I think.

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Doesn't he kill some templars in Awakening?

I mean - totally justified (to some), because he's a mage and they're templars... but still, I think he did kill some.

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[quote]Medhia Nox wrote...

Doesn't he kill some templars in Awakening?

I mean - totally justified (to some), because he's a mage and they're templars... but still, I think he did kill some.[/quote

Cause they were superceding the Grey Warden's Right to Conscript. The Chantry has always had to bow to that law.

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Medhia Nox

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And we know how good of a Grey Warden Anders turned out to be.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

And we know how good of a Grey Warden Anders turned out to be.


Who cares what he did as a Grey Warden? Doesn't mean that the Chantry gets to break that law when they see fit.

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I care what he did as a Grey Warden - I despise cowards.

I didn't say they should have - and they clearly didn't.

Their leniency (the first six times anyway) made way for the betrayer (of the Grey Wardens) and the monster (in Kirkwall) he was to become.

Contrary to many people's assertions that the Tempalrs "always" abuse their power.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

I care what he did as a Grey Warden - I despise cowards.

I didn't say they should have - and they clearly didn't.

Their leniency (the first six times anyway) made way for the betrayer (of the Grey Wardens) and the monster (in Kirkwall) he was to become.

Contrary to many people's assertions that the Tempalrs "always" abuse their power.


Hang on. I was just talking about how he was justified in defending himself against Rylock who was attempting to supercede the Right of Conscription.

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Actually, if you kill the templars in Awakening, you were breaking the law by breaking into their SUPPOSED warehouse of phylacteries to steal from them. Grey Wardens aren't above the common law.

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HiroVoid wrote...

Actually, if you kill the templars in Awakening, you were breaking the law by breaking into their SUPPOSED warehouse of phylacteries to steal from them. Grey Wardens aren't above the common law.


Except, for all we know, there never were any phylacteries in there at all. So how does that break the law if there were no phylacteries in there to begin with?

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@eluvianix: Understood - but that all started from my comments about templar leniency in the first place. Then we got talking about the seventh time and Anders in Awakening.

@HiroVoid: Shh... mages don't commit crimes.

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eluvianix wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

Actually, if you kill the templars in Awakening, you were breaking the law by breaking into their SUPPOSED warehouse of phylacteries to steal from them. Grey Wardens aren't above the common law.


Except, for all we know, there never were any phylacteries in there at all. So how does that break the law if there were no phylacteries in there to begin with?

Well, did you have permission to go into that warehouse?  BREAKING AND ENTERING.  Plus, ATTEMPTED THEFT in most cases.  At the very least though, the only time she tries to attack you is if you attempted to try and help Anders steal his phylactery.

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HiroVoid wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

Actually, if you kill the templars in Awakening, you were breaking the law by breaking into their SUPPOSED warehouse of phylacteries to steal from them. Grey Wardens aren't above the common law.


Except, for all we know, there never were any phylacteries in there at all. So how does that break the law if there were no phylacteries in there to begin with?

Well, did you have permission to go into that warehouse?  BREAKING AND ENTERING.  Plus, ATTEMPTED THEFT in most cases.  At the very least though, the only time she tries to attack you is if you attempted to try and help Anders steal his phylactery.

Do we even know for a fact that the Warehouse actually belonged to the Chantry? Or was it just a convenient place for Rylock to ambush him?

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Medhia Nox wrote...

@HiroVoid: Shh... mages don't commit crimes.


Yes, mages commit crimes too. As do Templars, elves, Qunari, dwarves, and every other thrice-cursed idiot in Thedas.

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eluvianix wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

Actually, if you kill the templars in Awakening, you were breaking the law by breaking into their SUPPOSED warehouse of phylacteries to steal from them. Grey Wardens aren't above the common law.


Except, for all we know, there never were any phylacteries in there at all. So how does that break the law if there were no phylacteries in there to begin with?

Well, did you have permission to go into that warehouse?  BREAKING AND ENTERING.  Plus, ATTEMPTED THEFT in most cases.  At the very least though, the only time she tries to attack you is if you attempted to try and help Anders steal his phylactery.

Do we even know for a fact that the Warehouse actually belonged to the Chantry? Or was it just a convenient place for Rylock to ambush him?

Well, Anders seemed to think it belonged to them.  Either way, him showing up basically relied on him trying to steal his phylactery.  If he decided to follow the law, he wouldn't have to worry about it and Rylock couldn't ambush him.

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HiroVoid wrote...
Well, Anders seemed to think it belonged to them.  Either way, him showing up basically relied on him trying to steal his phylactery.  If he decided to follow the law, he wouldn't have to worry about it and Rylock couldn't ambush him.

Didn't his friend sell him out to Rylock, though?

Yes, the intent was indeed to steal the phylactery, but he didn't actually commit any crimes because there nothing for him to steal at all.

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@HiroVoid: But if he didn't use the Wardens to invoke the Rite of Conscription - how would he have emancipated himself from the Circle for good?

Then - all he had to do was abandon his duty as a Warden - go attach himself to some Ferelden refugees in Kirkwall who will protect him while he builds a bomb to blow up a religious building.