I was hardly the one who started the conversation about the kinky aspects of blood magic. And you're doing such a good job in keeping the thread going by not bringing up stale grievances likely to lock it again, too.Discussion is fine.
Someone being disruptive and blatantly sh!tposting like this in an effort to trash the thread is not.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 24 octobre 2013 - 06:24 .
That is an opinion and I will take note of it. And file it away with everything my sparring partners have said about gleeful mage/elf slaughter.Darth Brotarian wrote...
You did take it too far though xil.
Modifié par Star fury, 24 octobre 2013 - 06:33 .
cjones91 wrote...
That's the thing though...the templars aren't shown handling a demon or abomination without suffering extreme losses.Their track record isn't that great when facing a actual demon instead of a possessed mage who became a abomination and is contained in the Circle.
Xilizhra wrote...
And so I shall. Certainly you could get more people to support them, provided there are sufficiently vast reforms. Shall I give suggestions so as to make my presence constructive?I just intended for Templar supporters to gather and talk about the Templars as well as maybe how to get people to support them.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Also the Space Marines aren't losing
because they are failing to adapt. They are losing because they are
besieged by every single enemy imaginable, from ever single percievable
angle. The Imperium of Man alone against a single of the enemies they
face, would probably have an even fight. However it is getting battered
from all sides simultanously.
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
LoL she wasn't wise at all she was naive as hell and in asunder her faith in chantry bite her in ass ultimately leading to her death and she leaves if she doesn't like you sure lets bi*** about responsibilities and sacrifices then fu*** you because i don't like you and well i hope that blight will kill you yeah ultimate wisdom.She was also arrogant with her "im old and you have to listen me because i know everything better than you and if you don't listen are you deaf and foolish i know everything" attitude.
eluvianix wrote...
You also come onto our threads to discuss and/or bash the mage supporters. Are we not also allowed to come here and discuss the Templars? I am not talking about the bashing, I mean the honest discussion.
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Using your limbs to battle. So primitive.
A long range weapon is a true warriors tool.
Modifié par Ausstig, 24 octobre 2013 - 07:43 .
Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 24 octobre 2013 - 07:45 .
Dave of Canada wrote...
Their competence relates to how much the protagonist is involved but they're still above-average in terms of overall competence, this isn't Cerberus which the writers can't show them succeed at anything.cjones91 wrote...
That's the thing though...the templars aren't shown handling a demon or abomination without suffering extreme losses.Their track record isn't that great when facing a actual demon instead of a possessed mage who became a abomination and is contained in the Circle.
In Ferelden's Circle of Magi, the templar contained the abomination threat and would likely have purged the Circle even without the Warden showing up and single-handedly killing legions of Abominations with a fork, they just needed the reinforcements after the Circle had been overwhelmed.
In Kirkwall's Circle of Magi, the templar relentlessly pursued mages and were renown for hunting them down across the land. We've got cases of mages without phylacteries being captured, Templar death squads hunting down apostates hiding in mountains, etc. Unless you side with the mages, the Templar slaughter the mages without much casualties until you reach Orsino.
Had Cullen not allowed Hawke to leave, Hawke would've been one of the many corpses in Kirkwall.
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Using your limbs to battle. So primitive.
A long range weapon is a true warriors tool.
ianvillan wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Their competence relates to how much the protagonist is involved but they're still above-average in terms of overall competence, this isn't Cerberus which the writers can't show them succeed at anything.cjones91 wrote...
That's the thing though...the templars aren't shown handling a demon or abomination without suffering extreme losses.Their track record isn't that great when facing a actual demon instead of a possessed mage who became a abomination and is contained in the Circle.
In Ferelden's Circle of Magi, the templar contained the abomination threat and would likely have purged the Circle even without the Warden showing up and single-handedly killing legions of Abominations with a fork, they just needed the reinforcements after the Circle had been overwhelmed.
In Kirkwall's Circle of Magi, the templar relentlessly pursued mages and were renown for hunting them down across the land. We've got cases of mages without phylacteries being captured, Templar death squads hunting down apostates hiding in mountains, etc. Unless you side with the mages, the Templar slaughter the mages without much casualties until you reach Orsino.
Had Cullen not allowed Hawke to leave, Hawke would've been one of the many corpses in Kirkwall.
It was a mage that stopped the treat of the abominations from escaping the tower while the Templars hid by the main exit leaving an elderly mage a few apprentices and some children to deal with the main threat.
Greagior would of continued to hide until wynne got too tired to told the barrier and while the mages thought the demons the Templars would of escaped.
Considering that the living quarters beyond Wynnes barrier was also ravaged and filled with corpses, then your statement is obviously wrong. Either that or Wynne did a terrible job, and it was actually still the Templars who held the demons at bay. Eitehr way, you are wrong.ianvillan wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Their competence relates to how much the protagonist is involved but they're still above-average in terms of overall competence, this isn't Cerberus which the writers can't show them succeed at anything.cjones91 wrote...
That's the thing though...the templars aren't shown handling a demon or abomination without suffering extreme losses.Their track record isn't that great when facing a actual demon instead of a possessed mage who became a abomination and is contained in the Circle.
In Ferelden's Circle of Magi, the templar contained the abomination threat and would likely have purged the Circle even without the Warden showing up and single-handedly killing legions of Abominations with a fork, they just needed the reinforcements after the Circle had been overwhelmed.
In Kirkwall's Circle of Magi, the templar relentlessly pursued mages and were renown for hunting them down across the land. We've got cases of mages without phylacteries being captured, Templar death squads hunting down apostates hiding in mountains, etc. Unless you side with the mages, the Templar slaughter the mages without much casualties until you reach Orsino.
Had Cullen not allowed Hawke to leave, Hawke would've been one of the many corpses in Kirkwall.
It was a mage that stopped the treat of the abominations from escaping the tower while the Templars hid by the main exit leaving an elderly mage a few apprentices and some children to deal with the main threat.
Greagior would of continued to hide until wynne got too tired to told the barrier and while the mages thought the demons the Templars would of escaped.
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Lore-wise, the Warden/Hake and his buddies should never survive a battle with an abomination. 4 people vs. an abomination? If you win, that's a miracle. Same as when figting a dragon. The PC is superhuman and his feats account for absolutely nothing.
Lore-wise, dragons and abominations eat dozens of trained soldiers for breakfest. Loses are expected agaisnt them.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Considering that the living quarters beyond Wynnes barrier was also ravaged and filled with corpses, then your statement is obviously wrong. Either that or Wynne did a terrible job, and it was actually still the Templars who held the demons at bay. Eitehr way, you are wrong.ianvillan wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Their competence relates to how much the protagonist is involved but they're still above-average in terms of overall competence, this isn't Cerberus which the writers can't show them succeed at anything.
In Ferelden's Circle of Magi, the templar contained the abomination threat and would likely have purged the Circle even without the Warden showing up and single-handedly killing legions of Abominations with a fork, they just needed the reinforcements after the Circle had been overwhelmed.
In Kirkwall's Circle of Magi, the templar relentlessly pursued mages and were renown for hunting them down across the land. We've got cases of mages without phylacteries being captured, Templar death squads hunting down apostates hiding in mountains, etc. Unless you side with the mages, the Templar slaughter the mages without much casualties until you reach Orsino.
Had Cullen not allowed Hawke to leave, Hawke would've been one of the many corpses in Kirkwall.
It was a mage that stopped the treat of the abominations from escaping the tower while the Templars hid by the main exit leaving an elderly mage a few apprentices and some children to deal with the main threat.
Greagior would of continued to hide until wynne got too tired to told the barrier and while the mages thought the demons the Templars would of escaped.
That being said, Wynne's barrier probably provided a temporary reprive for the Templars, but it wasn't the one thing holding the demons back.
LobselVith8 wrote...
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Lore-wise, the Warden/Hake and his buddies should never survive a battle with an abomination. 4 people vs. an abomination? If you win, that's a miracle. Same as when figting a dragon. The PC is superhuman and his feats account for absolutely nothing.
Lore-wise, dragons and abominations eat dozens of trained soldiers for breakfest. Loses are expected agaisnt them.
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
Modifié par Reaverwind, 24 octobre 2013 - 11:57 .
Reaverwind wrote...
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Considering that the living quarters beyond Wynnes barrier was also ravaged and filled with corpses, then your statement is obviously wrong. Either that or Wynne did a terrible job, and it was actually still the Templars who held the demons at bay. Eitehr way, you are wrong.ianvillan wrote...
Dave of Canada wrote...
Their competence relates to how much the protagonist is involved but they're still above-average in terms of overall competence, this isn't Cerberus which the writers can't show them succeed at anything.cjones91 wrote...
That's the thing though...the templars aren't shown handling a demon or abomination without suffering extreme losses.Their track record isn't that great when facing a actual demon instead of a possessed mage who became a abomination and is contained in the Circle.
In Ferelden's Circle of Magi, the templar contained the abomination threat and would likely have purged the Circle even without the Warden showing up and single-handedly killing legions of Abominations with a fork, they just needed the reinforcements after the Circle had been overwhelmed.
In Kirkwall's Circle of Magi, the templar relentlessly pursued mages and were renown for hunting them down across the land. We've got cases of mages without phylacteries being captured, Templar death squads hunting down apostates hiding in mountains, etc. Unless you side with the mages, the Templar slaughter the mages without much casualties until you reach Orsino.
Had Cullen not allowed Hawke to leave, Hawke would've been one of the many corpses in Kirkwall.
It was a mage that stopped the treat of the abominations from escaping the tower while the Templars hid by the main exit leaving an elderly mage a few apprentices and some children to deal with the main threat.
Greagior would of continued to hide until wynne got too tired to told the barrier and while the mages thought the demons the Templars would of escaped.
That being said, Wynne's barrier probably provided a temporary reprive for the Templars, but it wasn't the one thing holding the demons back.
Considering that a demon got through Wynne's barrier...yep. What saved the folks on the first floor was the fact the demons weren't acting like an organized military. Most of them were busy playing with their new toys.
Guest_Morocco Mole_*
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
Morocco Mole wrote...
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
The keyword here is 'clan' it takes all of the warriors to hunt down and kill a rogue keeper.
If it was already on the other side, then Wynne had just erected the barrier, and then it would certainly not ahve been her, who had held the demons back..... Either way, we know perfectly well, from all the corpses scattered around the living quarters, that demons had already been to that arae, and thus that the Templars had held the demons back, long before Wynne erected her barrier.dragonflight288 wrote...
Or it may have already been on that side of the barrier before it got put up. We don't know either way.
Modifié par EmperorSahlertz, 24 octobre 2013 - 12:05 .
If the rage or hunger demon was strong enough to take over a supposedly powerful Keeper, then said hunger or rage demon would be immensly powerful. And bringing a mage to fight an Abomination is one of the stupidest things you can possibly do, lorewise that is.dragonflight288 wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
The keyword here is 'clan' it takes all of the warriors to hunt down and kill a rogue keeper.
Not necessarily true.
I suppose it would take the entire clan if a Keeper was possessed by a Desire Demon or Pride Demon, possibly even a more powerful sloth demon, but a hunger or rage demon? It would probably only take a handful of trained hunters and the First.
Morocco Mole wrote...
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
The keyword here is 'clan' it takes all of the warriors to hunt down and kill a rogue keeper.
dragonflight288 wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
The keyword here is 'clan' it takes all of the warriors to hunt down and kill a rogue keeper.
Not necessarily true.
I suppose it would take the entire clan if a Keeper was possessed by a Desire Demon or Pride Demon, possibly even a more powerful sloth demon, but a hunger or rage demon? It would probably only take a handful of trained hunters and the First.
EmperorSahlertz wrote...
If the rage or hunger demon was strong enough to take over a supposedly powerful Keeper, then said hunger or rage demon would be immensly powerful. And bringing a mage to fight an Abomination is one of the stupidest things you can possibly do, lorewise that is.dragonflight288 wrote...
Morocco Mole wrote...
Merrill points out that the clan kills a mage who becomes an abomination; they aren't as virtually unstoppable as you make it out to be.
The keyword here is 'clan' it takes all of the warriors to hunt down and kill a rogue keeper.
Not necessarily true.
I suppose it would take the entire clan if a Keeper was possessed by a Desire Demon or Pride Demon, possibly even a more powerful sloth demon, but a hunger or rage demon? It would probably only take a handful of trained hunters and the First.
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