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The *I support the Templars* Thread V2


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#4301
MisterJB

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She only tries to kill every non-mage she meets in the book...
Edit:Except Leliana but she was aiding the mages and we know how Magisters love having slaves.

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MisterJB wrote...

She only tries to kill every non-mage she meets in the book...
Edit:Except Leliana but she was aiding the mages and we know how Magisters love having slaves.

I am really not in the mood to argue with you, as we have had this conversation before.

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We did?
I thought we mostly agreed Adrian could use with the loss of an head or a sun-brand on her forehead and ended it there.

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Which reminds me:
Please, Bioware, give us the option to Tranquilize Adrian in Dragon Age:Inquisition. If anyone has it coming, it is her. It would be the perfect punishment.

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eluvianix wrote...

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Lambert is not the leader of the Templar's but the leader of the Seeker of Truth. The leader of the Templar's is the Knight-Divine second in command is the Knight-Vigilant and third Knight-Commander.

And as far as mages rebelling... if what Lambert did was within the right so were the mages. The person who provoked the war between the mages and the Templar's was in fact a very incompetent Grand Cleric from Kirkwall. She didn't do crap about what her Knight-Commander was doing to the mages, and to the city. She just stood around and done nothing. While she was highly respected in the city people were sending secret letters asking for a replacement.


It is my understanding Lambert authority as Lord Seeker overshadows that of the Templar Order, because the Seekers are the overseers of the Order.

Elthina's neutrality didn't provoke the war. Anders did.


Just prior to nullifying the Nevarran Accord Lambert and the 15 Knight-Commanders had a brief meeting. The 15 K.C agreed to the nullifying of the NA. This indicates that Lambert was not their leader, and had them agree prior to sending the offical letter.

Templar order and Seeker of truth are two separate military organzations.

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MisterJB wrote...

We did?
I thought we mostly agreed Adrian could use with the loss of an head or a sun-brand on her forehead and ended it there.


No, we have debated the superiority complex before. I hate her guts because she's an idiot hothead who ignited a war and betrayed a friend to serve her own ends, not because she has a "superiority complex."

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MisterJB wrote...

Which reminds me:
Please, Bioware, give us the option to Tranquilize Adrian in Dragon Age:Inquisition. If anyone has it coming, it is her. It would be the perfect punishment.


No... just no.

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MisterJB wrote...

Which reminds me:
Please, Bioware, give us the option to Tranquilize Adrian in Dragon Age:Inquisition. If anyone has it coming, it is her. It would be the perfect punishment.


Meh. I'd rather she become an abomination of either pride or rage. A bitter twist of irony.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

Just prior to nullifying the Nevarran Accord Lambert and the 15 Knight-Commanders had a brief meeting. The 15 K.C agreed to the nullifying of the NA. This indicates that Lambert was not their leader, and had them agree prior to sending the offical letter.

Templar order and Seeker of truth are two separate military organzations.


Ok, from WOT, "The leadership hierarchy of the Seekers runs parallel to that of the templars, although a senior Seeker outranks any templar."

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No... just no.

If you don't want to do it, fine. That's why it's called an option.
Just like there was an option between Annuling and defending the Circle. That way, both pro-templars and pro-mages were satisfied.

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MisterJB wrote...

Which reminds me:
Please, Bioware, give us the option to Tranquilize Adrian in Dragon Age:Inquisition. If anyone has it coming, it is her. It would be the perfect punishment.


That or what eluvianix suggested 

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Why such hate over Adrian when it was Rhys final vote that lead to an all out war.

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Adrian always had an affinity with fire. I could see her becoming a Rage Abomination Boss Battle.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

Why such hate over Adrian when it was Rhys final vote that lead to an all out war.


Which is also the result over Adrian framing him for murder

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Lord Raijin wrote...

Why such hate over Adrian when it was Rhys final vote that lead to an all out war.


Only because Adrian forced this conflict by killing Pharamond. Rhys was out of options at that point. War was the last option they had left.

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MisterJB wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...
No... just no.

If you don't want to do it, fine. That's why it's called an option.
Just like there was an option between Annuling and defending the Circle. That way, both pro-templars and pro-mages were satisfied.


I want to see how a templar would react if they were given the brand. I do want to see how a mundane reacts if they were made tranquil. I hope Bioware show us this option.

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MisterJB wrote...

Adrian always had an affinity with fire. I could see her becoming a Rage Abomination Boss Battle.


If they went with Rage, I would a more complex battle than just a little fiery demon that dies from a single cone of cold. Hopefully they can give us a good boss battle.

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Lord Raijin wrote...
I want to see how a templar would react if they were given the brand. I do want to see how a mundane reacts if they were made tranquil. I hope Bioware show us this option.

Fine by me. Have fun.

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eluvianix wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Adrian always had an affinity with fire. I could see her becoming a Rage Abomination Boss Battle.


If they went with Rage, I would a more complex battle than just a little fiery demon that dies from a single cone of cold. Hopefully they can give us a good boss battle.


Maybe a combo of Pride and Rage ;)

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AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Adrian always had an affinity with fire. I could see her becoming a Rage Abomination Boss Battle.


If they went with Rage, I would a more complex battle than just a little fiery demon that dies from a single cone of cold. Hopefully they can give us a good boss battle.


Maybe a combo of Pride and Rage ;)

How deliciously evil:devil:. I like the way you think, man.

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eluvianix wrote...

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Why such hate over Adrian when it was Rhys final vote that lead to an all out war.


Only because Adrian forced this conflict by killing Pharamond. Rhys was out of options at that point. War was the last option they had left.


Uh didn't Pharamond begged Adrian to kill him? He did not want to become tranquil again. He even begged Cole to kill him in his dark cell. I consider his death as an act of mercy, not murder or an assasination. Who the hell wants to become an emotionless freak? And Ryhs, as the new representives of a far greater group had the final choice of surrendering to the templars/seekers/Chantry... but what came out of his mouth was "Let's fight". He initiated the fight, Not Adrian.

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So what is the Inquisition then? They are 100% autonomous?

So I'm guessing our authority will mostly be established by force?

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Lord Raijin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Why such hate over Adrian when it was Rhys final vote that lead to an all out war.


Only because Adrian forced this conflict by killing Pharamond. Rhys was out of options at that point. War was the last option they had left.


Uh didn't Pharamond begged Adrian to kill him? He did not want to become tranquil again. He even begged Cole to kill him in his dark cell. I consider his death as an act of mercy, not murder or a assasination. Who the hell wants to become an emotionless freak? And Ryhs, as the new representives of a far greater group had the final choice of surrendering to the templars/seekers/Chantry... but what came out of his mouth was "Let's fight". He initiated the fight, Not Adrian.


It really doesn't matter whether or not he begged Adrian to kill him (I can't remember if he did, but I doubt it)

It's the fact that she framed Ryhs for it that led into him voting to fight, it also led into Wynne's death which played a part

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Adrian is an unresonable, hate filled, warmongering, cowardly, manipulative extremist who revels in her perceived superiority; believes the best way to dispell fear and suspicion is to flash fire in the face of normal people; sends fellow mages to die for the cause while she reaps the benefits; etc. She is an example of the worst mages can give to Thedas.

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The Baconer wrote...

So what is the Inquisition then? They are 100% autonomous?

So I'm guessing our authority will mostly be established by force?


Yes, they are indeed 100% autonomous. But considering Cassandra is joining your party, you clearly have the backing of the Chantry, especially that of the Divine.