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[Lazengan]

I support mages, but only because Bioware did a terrible job at writing templars

on the other hand, I'm glad to see that they wrote a government that only tried to deal with pressing issues that their cabinet was not equipped or experienced to handle, on top of Kirkwall already being a massive dump

as opposed to mass effect where it was just so liberal and stupid "the government is arrogant and full of it"

Dumar actually tried to resolve mages,templars, qunari, on top of the crime, but it was just too much for him

[Hazegurl]

Dumar was a weakling who didn't try to do anything. He and Elthina needed to retire.

[Reaverwind]

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Modifié par Reaverwind, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:58 .

[Hazegurl]

So true. I would purchased that Hawke Estate for my mother if she wanted it so bad then I would have packed up and headed right back to Ferelden. Kirkwall was a ****** hole.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 25 décembre 2013 - 01:58 .

[SgtSteel91]

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

[Reaverwind]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

Carver is a grown man. And if Hawke had any actual influence to speak of, he could have tried leaning on someone to get Bethany transferred. *gasp* While you refuse to help Anders collect his bomb components, the game still railroads your character into playing accomplice.

Modifié par Reaverwind, 25 décembre 2013 - 02:05 .

[SgtSteel91]

Reaverwind wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

Carver is a grown man. And if Hawke had any actual influence to speak of, he could have tried leaning on someone to get Bethany transferred. *gasp* While you refuse to help Anders collect his bomb components, the game still railroads your character into playing accomplice.

You know, I always headcanon that when meeting with King Alistair, Alistair would agree to talk with Irving and Gregor about transferring Bethany, but then Anders happened before anything could come from it.

Edit: And you can warn the Grand Cleric and Cullen as well right?

Modifié par SgtSteel91, 25 décembre 2013 - 02:13 .

[Reaverwind]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

Carver is a grown man. And if Hawke had any actual influence to speak of, he could have tried leaning on someone to get Bethany transferred. *gasp* While you refuse to help Anders collect his bomb components, the game still railroads your character into playing accomplice.

You know, I always headcanon that when meeting with King Alistair, Alistair would agree to talk with Irving and Gregor about transferring Bethany, but then Anders happened before anything could come from it.

Yes, but a sane and moderately intelligent Hawke not tied to his mommy's apron strings would have left long before, and might even have thought to get Bethany out of Kirkwall before focusing on getting the stupid house.

[dragonflight288]

Reaverwind wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

Carver is a grown man. And if Hawke had any actual influence to speak of, he could have tried leaning on someone to get Bethany transferred. *gasp* While you refuse to help Anders collect his bomb components, the game still railroads your character into playing accomplice.

You know, I always headcanon that when meeting with King Alistair, Alistair would agree to talk with Irving and Gregor about transferring Bethany, but then Anders happened before anything could come from it.

Yes, but a sane and moderately intelligent Hawke not tied to his mommy's apron strings would have left long before, and might even have thought to get Bethany out of Kirkwall before focusing on getting the stupid house.

Hawke: Can't ANYONE solve their own problems around here?
Isabella: Must be something in the water.

Dragonflight248: Probably a little lyrium, some blood magic residue.

[Lord Raijin]

Merry Christmas to the Templar supporters here

Let us Mage's and Templar's just get a long for this 1 day

Maker bless you all

[Cainhurst Crow]

When did you become blond?

[Lord Raijin]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

When did you become blond?

What? Who are you questioning this to?

[SeekerOfLight]

I always thought the reason that demons preferred mages was that they unlike, mundanes were concious in the fade which made them stand out so they are noticed more. Mundanes can be possessed by demons too, but mages are preffered because unlike none mages they have power in the fade and the waking world.
At least that's my headcanon lol.

[Nightdragon8]

Reaverwind wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

Carver is a grown man. And if Hawke had any actual influence to speak of, he could have tried leaning on someone to get Bethany transferred. *gasp* While you refuse to help Anders collect his bomb components, the game still railroads your character into playing accomplice.

Right.... Transfer a mage out from under Night ***** Merdith's control? Good luck, would have an easier time going to the deeproads to kill an Archdemon than to get her claws from around the necks of all mages there.

Also, to me Family is important to me, I wouldn't just say "F#$% you brother good luck with your life" and leave. Sorry.

[EmperorSahlertz]

In general medieval society you don't just up and leave, not even if you are a noble.

[Reaverwind]

Nightdragon8 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...

Kirkwall's water supply had to be contaminated or something - idiocy and insanity were rampant at all levels. Even Hawke was affected - as he proved too stupid to get out of Dodge and too easily manipulated by terrorists.

Eh, either he can't leave behind Bethany/Carver if they are part of the Circle/Templars. And you can refuse to help Anders too, right?

Carver is a grown man. And if Hawke had any actual influence to speak of, he could have tried leaning on someone to get Bethany transferred. *gasp* While you refuse to help Anders collect his bomb components, the game still railroads your character into playing accomplice.

Right.... Transfer a mage out from under Night ***** Merdith's control? Good luck, would have an easier time going to the deeproads to kill an Archdemon than to get her claws from around the necks of all mages there.

Also, to me Family is important to me, I wouldn't just say "F#$% you brother good luck with your life" and leave. Sorry.

You in the habit of living your siblings' lives for them?

[dragonflight288]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

In general medieval society you don't just up and leave, not even if you are a noble.

Thedas isn't general medieval society, as people up and left regularly in Origins, from those people in Lothering going to Denerim, dwarves going to the surface and becoming Surface Dwarves, elves leaving cities and joining the Dalish, or Dalish leaving their clans and becoming City elves (zevran's mother, Fenriel's mother in DA2, Merrill,) and so on.

Nobles tend to be more rooted than normal people because their holdings, wealth and general power-base is rooted to a single location, but merchants, blacksmiths and farmers are more free to leave. All they need is a wagon, a mule/horse team, and a place to store their tools.

[EmperorSahlertz]

dragonflight288 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

In general medieval society you don't just up and leave, not even if you are a noble.

Thedas isn't general medieval society, as people up and left regularly in Origins, from those people in Lothering going to Denerim, dwarves going to the surface and becoming Surface Dwarves, elves leaving cities and joining the Dalish, or Dalish leaving their clans and becoming City elves (zevran's mother, Fenriel's mother in DA2, Merrill,) and so on.

Nobles tend to be more rooted than normal people because their holdings, wealth and general power-base is rooted to a single location, but merchants, blacksmiths and farmers are more free to leave. All they need is a wagon, a mule/horse team, and a place to store their tools.

In all the examples you stated, the persons in question USUALLY had no other choice left. So my point still stands.

[dragonflight288]

In all the examples you stated, the persons in question USUALLY had no other choice left. So my point still stands.

Your point does stand, but it's also true that we can't compare Thedas to real medieval society since there are very clear differences. Like England or France never had a Landsmeet like Ferelden does in Origins, at least, not until Parliament was established, and even then they included a House of Commons which the Landsmeet clearly lacks.

Add in the lack of magic so Tevinter can't really be based on any other medieval society....Rome would probably the closest in comparison considering they both were powers that spanned the whole of the known world at their prime, and even then Slaves were treated considerably better in Rome than in Tevinter, often times there were laws on how slaves could be treated, oftentimes they even earned wages which was used to buy their freedom.