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[Hazegurl]

Reaverwind wrote...
It'd be poetic justice should Evangeline suffer Thrask's fate (a fitting end for the fool). 

Didn't Wynne almost kill her in the sewers? Yet that wasn't enough for her to learn anything.

[Lord Raijin]

cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
She joined in Kirkwall, she created the power struggle by clamping down after the Viscount's death, and attacked a group of people that had nothing to do with the Chantry explosion.

Meh. The Circle was a lost cause before Anders anyway


Meredith rules, mages drool.

Meredith would have been removed from power if Anders had'nt blown up the only person who could do it.

Elthina had no intention of removing Meredith from power.

She would have been forced to act as a result of Meredith going crazy overtime.

She should've acted right after she prevented a new election of a new Viscount. I find it hard to believe that Elthina was not aware of this. Templars are not suppose to get into a political affairs of nobilities.

[Lord Raijin]

cjones91 wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
She joined in Kirkwall, she created the power struggle by clamping down after the Viscount's death, and attacked a group of people that had nothing to do with the Chantry explosion.

Meh. The Circle was a lost cause before Anders anyway


Meredith rules, mages drool.

Meredith would have been removed from power if Anders had'nt blown up the only person who could do it.

Elthina had no intention of removing Meredith from power.

She would have been forced to act as a result of Meredith going crazy overtime.

If the Divine didn't act first...which was a very real possibility.

Either way...Meredith would have been removed from the picture regardless.

Anders got rid of Elthina and Hawke got rid of Meredith. Seems like a good deal right there

[HiroVoid]

Lord Raijin wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
She joined in Kirkwall, she created the power struggle by clamping down after the Viscount's death, and attacked a group of people that had nothing to do with the Chantry explosion.

Meh. The Circle was a lost cause before Anders anyway


Meredith rules, mages drool.

Meredith would have been removed from power if Anders had'nt blown up the only person who could do it.

Elthina had no intention of removing Meredith from power.

She would have been forced to act as a result of Meredith going crazy overtime.

If the Divine didn't act first...which was a very real possibility.

Either way...Meredith would have been removed from the picture regardless.

Anders got rid of Elthina and Hawke got rid of Meredith. Seems like a good deal right there

I don't think Sebastian appreciated his mother figure being killed.  Then, you have the people who went to the chantry on a regular basis as it was their place of worship.  Then, you had any relatives of the priests, priestesses, or templars in the chantry.  Then, you have the people who were neutral in the conflict who may not feel all that well towards the idea of a mage proving how dangerous he is after blowing up an iconic building.  As for Sebastian, aside from his army threat, I do like he was the only person to actually want the person responsible for the whole chantry explosion dead rather than going after the circle.

Edit: Just quote my post.  Don't want to start too large of a quote tree.

Modifié par HiroVoid, 30 octobre 2013 - 01:00 .

[wolfhowwl]

Remember my Templar brothers and sisters just what we are fighting against.

[Dabrikishaw]

That's never going to stop being weird.

[Lotion Soronarr]

cjones91 wrote...
Meredith would have been removed from power if Anders had'nt blown up the only person who could do it.

Which would be a good thing for mages, thus makign Anders even more stupid.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Xilizhra wrote...
The game doesn't say, but the Dalish have definitely written books on it.

Have they?
I didnt' see any. Nor did I see Merril studying or learnign anything, nor any mention of the source.

The Keepr is called that for a reason. She/he is he keeper of knoweldge and the one who trains dalish mages in all things magic. And Merri lwas young.
I doubt Metharari tought her everything yet - hell, I doubt her training was even half complete.

It did neither in Witch Hunt.

And the mirrior in which hunt was compelte and wasn't tained before and the other side didn't lead to a black undergound city filled with taint.

[Lotion Soronarr]

DKJaigen wrote...
No matter if Meredith is removed another Meredith will simply take her place.

Nope. Cullen was second-in-command. He would have taken over.

[ianvillan]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

DKJaigen wrote...
No matter if Meredith is removed another Meredith will simply take her place.

Nope. Cullen was second-in-command. He would have taken over.

Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Watching the scene again on youtube has only made this more obvious- a demon wouldn't have a peaceful conversation about how much she loved Merrill and wanted her to be safe before attacking her.

Of course it would. Origins has a demon having a peaceful conversation about how much it loves a templar. Caress in DA2 promises love to Aveline. Even if they're lying, demons can certainly talk calmly about love, if it suits their purposes.

A desire demon talked about love, as that was the desire it was manipulating in the Templar. 

When Marethari "comes back" and tries to decieve Merrill and Hawke it says "You are so much stronger than I imagined Da'len" - very specifically trying to decieve her using her pride. 

"Your blood magic always had a price, I have chosen to pay it for you" "Kill me and then Merrill will finally be safe" does not sound like something a pride demon would say, rather the sort of thing the loving keeper would. 

You seem to forget that demons can access the memories of those they possess.The pride demon could have easily said those things to make Merril suffer even more.

Except convincing someone to kill it is kinda counter productive to it's goal of freedom isn't it?

How dare you come here with your sound argument and your logic?! You realize that if you keep doing this, people wont remain obtusedly blind to the faults of Merrill, and wont love her blindly for much longer?! SHAME ONE YOU!!

[MisterJB]

ianvillan wrote...
Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

And your basis on this is that...Cullen said a few hurtful but truthful words that hurt the poor mage's feelings and hit far too close to home?

Modifié par MisterJB, 30 octobre 2013 - 10:41 .

[MisterJB]

Hazegurl wrote...

Reaverwind wrote...
It'd be poetic justice should Evangeline suffer Thrask's fate (a fitting end for the fool). 

Didn't Wynne almost kill her in the sewers? Yet that wasn't enough for her to learn anything.

I can't decide what would give me more satisfaction. Evangeline being killed by the mages ala those animal lovers who try to protect the monster of the week or a public execution by the Inquisition.
Truly, DAI will have some difficult choices to make.

[Lotion Soronarr]

ianvillan wrote...
Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

HAHAHAHA.. yeah, your understanding of lore and character is fascinatingly wrong.

Not to mention I like how you use your headcanon future predictions as some kind of proof.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ianvillan wrote...
Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

HAHAHAHA.. yeah, your understanding of lore and character is fascinatingly wrong.

Not to mention I like how you use your headcanon future predictions as some kind of proof.

He have right cullen was send to kirkwal because of his fanaticism and wasn't right hand of meredith because he is competent only because he shared her views and was blindly obedient to her and was with her until the end and still moment when he turn on her was when she attacked hawke so he unrestand this character good.

[Star fury]

ianvillan wrote...

Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

Huh? Cullen is one sane templar in DA2 and you say that the same thing would've happened with him in charge? He also lost most of his friends and was tortured by blood mages in the past. It's amazing that Cullen remained level-headed after a brief period of madness in DA:O where he proposed to annull the Circle.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Star fury wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

Huh? Cullen is one sane templar in DA2 and you say that the same thing would've happened with him in charge? He also lost most of his friends and was tortured by blood mages in the past. It's amazing that Cullen remained level-headed after a brief period of madness in DA:O where he proposed to annull the Circle.

only insane follow insane and most of characters in da have tragic backstory hold themselves much better.  

[Star fury]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ianvillan wrote...
Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

HAHAHAHA.. yeah, your understanding of lore and character is fascinatingly wrong.

Not to mention I like how you use your headcanon future predictions as some kind of proof.

He have right cullen was send to kirkwal because of his fanaticism and wasn't right hand of meredith because he is competent only because he shared her views and was blindly obedient to her and was with her until the end and still moment when he turn on her was when she attacked hawke so he unrestand this character good.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Star fury wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ianvillan wrote...
Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

HAHAHAHA.. yeah, your understanding of lore and character is fascinatingly wrong.

Not to mention I like how you use your headcanon future predictions as some kind of proof.

He have right cullen was send to kirkwal because of his fanaticism and wasn't right hand of meredith because he is competent only because he shared her views and was blindly obedient to her and was with her until the end and still moment when he turn on her was when she attacked hawke so he unrestand this character good.

Truth nothing more if you refuse belive in that it is your problem and that was in case.

[EmperorSahlertz]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Star fury wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

Huh? Cullen is one sane templar in DA2 and you say that the same thing would've happened with him in charge? He also lost most of his friends and was tortured by blood mages in the past. It's amazing that Cullen remained level-headed after a brief period of madness in DA:O where he proposed to annull the Circle.

only insane follow insane and most of characters in da have tragic backstory hold themselves much better.  

THats an incorrect statement.

[Lotion Soronarr]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

only insane follow insane and most of characters in da have tragic backstory hold themselves much better.  

Fiona? Anders? what does that makes most mages (who followed them)?
Insane.

And you follow them.

[Star fury]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Truth nothing more if you refuse belive in that it is your problem and that was in case.

If you say so.

[TheKomandorShepard]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Star fury wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

Cullen is just a few steps away from being Meredith himself, he is just smarter about showing his hatred in public.

If Cullen had taken over Meredith's position the same things would of happened but with no red lyrium to blame for his actions.

Huh? Cullen is one sane templar in DA2 and you say that the same thing would've happened with him in charge? He also lost most of his friends and was tortured by blood mages in the past. It's amazing that Cullen remained level-headed after a brief period of madness in DA:O where he proposed to annull the Circle.

only insane follow insane and most of characters in da have tragic backstory hold themselves much better.  

THats an incorrect statement.

No? morrigan , leliana ,silas , warden (if you don't want pc ok) zevran and more.  

[TheKomandorShepard]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

only insane follow insane and most of characters in da have tragic backstory hold themselves much better.  

Fiona? Anders? what does that makes most mages (who followed them)?
Insane.

And you follow them.

Fiona isn't insane at all anders well i would say yes but only a little he is just extremist and who followed anders in the end he was alone.

And your making your statmets and i read that you don't come with bias and emotions to the topic but it is simple untruth because im intendet to kill mages as well destroy chantry with templars and i will follow only my side.