MisterJB wrote...
ianvillan wrote...
What lore is their that shows that Cullen would be tolerant of mages and not willing to do the right of annulment, Cullen has made his views of the mages clear how he does not think of them as human or should be tolerated.
I will forget that this is the same Cullen who was written to turn into a mage serial killer and is insane at the end of DAO, It is also the same Cullen that would accept a Templar who could be an abomination but would kill a mage and their associates if their was even a hint they might be possessed.
Can you show how Cullen would be different than Meredith and not go down the same path.
If Cullen is not a member of the red Templars in DAI after he was tortured by blood mages in DAO and all that happened in DA2 and with his opinion of mages then I would not believe that his character is believable .
You're the one who made the claim, the burden of proof falls on your, not on us.
Let's see, Cullen is uncertain when Meredith calls for the Right of Annulment; Cullen accepts Alain and his cohorts back in the Circle and pleads on their behalf despite them being blood mages lead by an Abomination; Cullen orders the Templars under him to spare surrendering mages during the ROA; never in the entire DA franchise have we ever seen or heard of Cullen abusing a single mage.
But he speaks the truth; that mages have incredible destructive power and that their treatment should take this into account; and suddenly he is a villain.
Just out of curiosity, do you happen to have Templar you like?
Here are some quotes from Cullen in DA2
(To Hawke, Enemies Among Us, Act I) "I was at the Circle Tower in Ferelden during the Blight. I saw first hand how templar's trust and leniency can be rewarded. I still have nightmares of Uldred's depravities."
(To Hawke, Enemies Among Us, Act I) "Mages cannot be treated like people. They are not like you and me. They are weapons. They have the power to light a city on fire in a fit of pique."
(To Hawke about Meredith, Act I) "She is not an easy taskmaster. But it is not an easy task. I would not have liked her when I was younger. I thought mages deserved a softer touch. But Meredith is never fooled by a sweet face. She always sees the demon behind it."
(To Hawke, Act I) "It used to be that templars were welcomed wherever they went—for defending people from dark magics. Now the townsfolk are as likely to slam their doors as offer us a bed. The image of the poor, chained apprentice is a powerful one. And one the mages are more than willing to exploit."
(To Hawke about the Tranquil Solution after Dissent, Act II) "It's true there has been some discussion of the idea. But as you can see, it has gone no further than that. The Harrowing has served us well enough for centuries. It will be up to mages themselves whether they push us to more stringent measures."
(Hawke asks him, if he approves of Ser Alrik's plan after Dissent, Act II) "The Tranquil ritual was created as a mercy so that mages need not be killed out of hand for a threat they might pose. There is an argument to be made for applying it more widely. But the mages have made it clear they view the ritual as no better than death. They want no controls on them at all."
The codex entry about Cullen says
Knight-Captain Cullen was oneof the few templars who survived the incident at the Circle of Magi in Ferelden. The possessed blood mage Uldred took over the tower, and in his madness, he filled it with summoned demons and abominations. Cullen was imprisoned, tortured, and forced to watch the slaughter of his fellow templars. The ordeal shook him, and he emerged from it convinced that even templars fail to see how dangerous mages can be.
After Cullen returned to his duties, it became clear that he would go to any lengths to enforce the Chantry's rule. His zeal troubled Knight-Commander Greagoir, who feared it unwise to let Cullen watch over the men and women he deemed responsible for his torment.
Greagoir sent Cullen to serve under Knight-commander Meredith in Kirkwall, hoping time away would calm him, and Meredith found Cullen's view of mages similar to her own. Of her company, only Cullen had seen mages' potentially terrifying power first hand, and she believed he could influence the other templars' views. Consequently, Cullen rose quickly through the ranks to become knight-captain and Meredith's second-in-command.
Cullen is not the tolerant true Templar you would have us believe.