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[LOLandStuff]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I also think its pretty funny that Anders gets away with his actions because "he was abused" but Cullen is not extended the same grace. Despite being tortured for several hours by blood mages and watching his comrades murdered in front of him.

He's a templar, duuh!!!
He had it coming the moment he joined the organization.
He was just asking for it.

Modifié par LOLandStuff, 30 octobre 2013 - 03:18 .

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I also think its pretty funny that Anders gets away with his actions because "he was abused" but Cullen is not extended the same grace. Despite being tortured for several hours by blood mages and watching his comrades murdered in front of him.

Didn't Irving go through more or less the same thing and not go crazy?

[Medhia Nox]

@Xilizhra: Isn't Irving a First Enchanter?

Did tons of mages submit out of total weakness and become abominations? Did other Templars also fail and submit to possession?

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 30 octobre 2013 - 03:20 .

[Lord Raijin]

ianvillan wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Cullen yapping about mages not being people and other obvious concerns: Not ok.
Anders blowing up a Chantry: Totally ok.

The same could be said about Templar supporters.

Anders blowing up the Chantry: Not ok.
Cullen, Meredith and the Templars murdering mages and children, imprisoning mages and wiping the minds of mages: Totally ok.

And bingo was his name o!

[Medhia Nox]

So, why is it okay for Anders to be a psychotic terrorist after bad things happened to other people around him (nothing bad ever happens to Anders... he's just so self-absorbed that it's all about him).

But Maker forbid Cullen hates mages AFTER being tortured by mages for an unknown length of time.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 30 octobre 2013 - 03:22 .

[Medhia Nox]

@Morocco Mole: Well, they DID take his cat... and they DID try to remind him of his responsibility to the Wardens.

Those bastards.

[The Hierophant]

Lord Raijin wrote...

ianvillan wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Cullen yapping about mages not being people and other obvious concerns: Not ok.
Anders blowing up a Chantry: Totally ok.

The same could be said about Templar supporters.

Anders blowing up the Chantry: Not ok.
Cullen, Meredith and the Templars murdering mages and children, imprisoning mages and wiping the minds of mages: Totally ok.

And bingo was his name o!

Please. Anders assassination of Elthina was cold and calculated. He wanted war regardless of Kirwall's CoM wishes.

[LOLandStuff]

Irving is an old man and First Enchanter. He must've supervised lots of Harrowings, some gone wrong. Cullen in DA:O was a naive and shy man.

[Lord Raijin]

MisterJB wrote...

ianvillan wrote...
Your right in what you say and this is not directed at you, but how is killing innocent mages and mage children in the right of annulment justified because of the actions of one mage. The Templar supporters agree with the right of annulment and making mages tranquil just because mages are different. 

I'm a Templar supporter and I don't agree with her Right of Annulment.
I'm a Templar supporter not because mages are different but because mages are dangerous. And don't bloody tell me everyone is dangerous. When was the last time a normal child destroyed a city? Because Connor did it.

The incident with Connor was clearly his parents fault, for not sending him to the Circle to get proper training... Instead they went off to snag an apostate that was on the run to secretly tutor their son.

I maybe a Mage supporter, but am very much pro-Circle because it is a safe haven for young mages to learn how to wierld their Makers given gift from proven teachers of the Circle.

[Medhia Nox]

Why is there such an amazing lack of accountability amongst Pro-Mages?

It is the biggest reason I cannot support the Pro-Mage cause.

Everything always becomes someone elses fault when a mage hurts someone.

[LOLandStuff]

Isn't that why non-mages exist in the first place? To take all the blame?

[Xilizhra]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Why is there such an amazing lack of accountability amongst Pro-Mages?

It is the biggest reason I cannot support the Pro-Mage cause.

Everything always becomes someone elses fault when a mage hurts someone.

Er, not in Tahrone's case. For instance.

[Aremce]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Why is there such an amazing lack of accountability amongst Pro-Mages?

It is the biggest reason I cannot support the Pro-Mage cause.

Everything always becomes someone elses fault when a mage hurts someone.

I think it seems that way because the radical ones are also the loud ones ... like everywhere else.

[MisterJB]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Isn't that why non-mages exist in the first place? To take all the blame?

Plus, slavery.

[ianvillan]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Why is there such an amazing lack of accountability amongst Pro-Mages?

It is the biggest reason I cannot support the Pro-Mage cause.

Everything always becomes someone elses fault when a mage hurts someone.

Your right that there is a lack of accountability amongst mage supporters, but there is also a lack of accountability amongst Templar supporters who view mages as wanting to become like Tevinter or demon possessed and see the only reason the mages go to blood-magic is because they are evil and that it was not the Templar fault for it and that they only do what is best for the mages.

[Lord Raijin]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Obviously the templars did a ******-poor job at taking Karl away from Anders since the Gallows are still standing.

What are you talking about? The templars forced Anders to become his best friend former lover executioner. Anders killed Karl out of mercy.

[Steelcan]

I was pro-mage when I played DA2 for the first time, now because of the pro-mage lot on BSN I feel like purging them, possibly in fire.

[Medhia Nox]

@ianvillan: I actually believe most Pro-Templars I've seen support change for the Templars.

I also don't believe that Pro-Templars make excuses for their more despicable villains like Alrik. 

They should have let you develop a shallow, infantile romance with Alrik so he would be "complex" and people would defend his disgusting traits. 

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 30 octobre 2013 - 03:45 .

[Br3admax]

Agreed with both above, MM.

Modifié par Br3ad, 30 octobre 2013 - 03:50 .

[Xilizhra]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@ianvillan: I actually believe most Pro-Templars I've seen support change for the Templars.

I also don't believe that Pro-Templars make excuses for their more despicable villains like Alrik. 

They should have let you develop a shallow, infantile romance with Alrik so he would be "complex" and people would defend his disgusting traits. 

I really don't think that your conflation works. Alrik compares better with Danarius.