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[Jedi Master of Orion]

cjones91 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

None of that says that they gain all the same abilities as blood mages. Mostly because blood mages are mages. They also can't control other peoples' minds or sacrifice others peoples' lives to create a massively destructive spell.

Reavers can drain a person's life force.

Not the same way or for the same potential destructive ends as a blood mage.

[EmperorSahlertz]

cjones91 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

None of that says that they gain all the same abilities as blood mages. Mostly because blood mages are mages. They also can't control other peoples' minds or sacrifice others peoples' lives to create a massively destructive spell.

Reavers can drain a person's life force.

A normal mage can do that. To be able to do so, is not blood magic.

[Herr Uhl]

Morocco Mole wrote...

You can do a lot of horrific things with normal magic. The key difference is that it requires lyrium, which the chantry controls. Blood magic is banned (not only because it can do stuff like control minds) but also because it is impossible to control.

You can cast magic without Lyrium.

[DKJaigen]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

None of that says that they gain all the same abilities as blood mages. Mostly because blood mages are mages. They also can't control other peoples' minds or sacrifice others peoples' lives to create a massively destructive spell.

There's also the fact that becoming a Reaver involves dragon's blood. Which isn't that common.

With more dragons filling the skies during the period of DAI this may change. one reaver is bad enough an entire army of combat Sadomasochist is something that is downright chilling. its one of those stupidities  of the chantry that they only focus on mages. Fenris is a being that for all purposes should be locked up in the circle yet the chantry ignores it.

[DKJaigen]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Or maybe it was because its easier for the templars to shut down.

You only now start to notice that the circle is filled  with magic that the templars can shutdown?

[Shadow Fox]

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Calenhad Theirin a warrior who practices the art of blood magic by drinking dragon blood to wield extra power = Becomes King and gets a lake named after him in his honor.

A mage who practices the art of blood magic = Gets hunted down by the templars and gets slain because it's evil.

You're confusing a rumour for truth again.

Tbh if Calenhad were alive then the Chantry would have him executed for using blood magic,To them everything that involves blood is evil.

Except there's no proof he was a Reaver at all.

[cjones91]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Calenhad Theirin a warrior who practices the art of blood magic by drinking dragon blood to wield extra power = Becomes King and gets a lake named after him in his honor.

A mage who practices the art of blood magic = Gets hunted down by the templars and gets slain because it's evil.

You're confusing a rumour for truth again.

Tbh if Calenhad were alive then the Chantry would have him executed for using blood magic,To them everything that involves blood is evil.

Except there's no proof he was a Reaver at all.

Well,the dragon blood in Alistair's and Marric's veins had to some from somewhere.

Modifié par cjones91, 30 octobre 2013 - 11:54 .

[Shadow Fox]

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Calenhad Theirin a warrior who practices the art of blood magic by drinking dragon blood to wield extra power = Becomes King and gets a lake named after him in his honor.

A mage who practices the art of blood magic = Gets hunted down by the templars and gets slain because it's evil.

You're confusing a rumour for truth again.

Tbh if Calenhad were alive then the Chantry would have him executed for using blood magic,To them everything that involves blood is evil.

Except there's no proof he was a Reaver at all.

Well,the dragon blood in Alistair's and Marric's veins had to some from somewhere.

Unless it's just symbolic you know.

[cjones91]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Calenhad Theirin a warrior who practices the art of blood magic by drinking dragon blood to wield extra power = Becomes King and gets a lake named after him in his honor.

A mage who practices the art of blood magic = Gets hunted down by the templars and gets slain because it's evil.

You're confusing a rumour for truth again.

Tbh if Calenhad were alive then the Chantry would have him executed for using blood magic,To them everything that involves blood is evil.

Except there's no proof he was a Reaver at all.

Well,the dragon blood in Alistair's and Marric's veins had to some from somewhere.

Unless it's just symbolic you know.

No,if Calenhad was'nt a reaver then Marric would'nt have been captured and hooked up to a magical artifact to power up a Dreamer's powers.

[Hellion Rex]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Calenhad Theirin a warrior who practices the art of blood magic by drinking dragon blood to wield extra power = Becomes King and gets a lake named after him in his honor.

A mage who practices the art of blood magic = Gets hunted down by the templars and gets slain because it's evil.

You're confusing a rumour for truth again.

Tbh if Calenhad were alive then the Chantry would have him executed for using blood magic,To them everything that involves blood is evil.

Except there's no proof he was a Reaver at all.

Well,the dragon blood in Alistair's and Marric's veins had to some from somewhere.

Unless it's just symbolic you know.

I am not enitirely sure. Considering this idea has been advocated by Sten and Yavanna, I don't think that it is far fetched.

[Hazegurl]

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

[Shadow Fox]

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

This pretty much.

[Shadow Fox]

eluvianix wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Calenhad Theirin a warrior who practices the art of blood magic by drinking dragon blood to wield extra power = Becomes King and gets a lake named after him in his honor.

A mage who practices the art of blood magic = Gets hunted down by the templars and gets slain because it's evil.

You're confusing a rumour for truth again.

Tbh if Calenhad were alive then the Chantry would have him executed for using blood magic,To them everything that involves blood is evil.

Except there's no proof he was a Reaver at all.

Well,the dragon blood in Alistair's and Marric's veins had to some from somewhere.

Unless it's just symbolic you know.

I am not enitirely sure. Considering this idea has been advocated by Sten and Yavanna, I don't think that it is far fetched.

It's definitely possible just not certain truth.

[Xilizhra]

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

Kolgrim could create ash wraiths, so that seems to be one down. And they might not be abominations, but they can control dragons to some extent, which seems rather formidable.

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

They don't control the dragons. Its implied that the dragons control them.

The high dragon might, but I don't think the lesser ones are intelligent enough to do so... and it's the reavers who are maintaining the dragon nests.

[Shadow Fox]

Xilizhra wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

Kolgrim could create ash wraiths, so that seems to be one down. And they might not be abominations, but they can control dragons to some extent, which seems rather formidable.

Pretty sure that was the mage with him.

[Xilizhra]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

Kolgrim could create ash wraiths, so that seems to be one down. And they might not be abominations, but they can control dragons to some extent, which seems rather formidable.

Pretty sure that was the mage with him.

Eirik? The codex entry talking about the creation of ash wraiths doesn't mention him or any other mages, just how Kolgrim could make them.

[Lord Raijin]

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

In order to gain the skill of a Reaver don't one must make a dangerous deal with a demon?

[Hellion Rex]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.

In order to gain the skill of a Reaver don't one must make a dangerous deal with a demon?

Or per DA2's description, as well as both Sten and Yavanna's accounts, you can do the same through the drinking of dragon/wyvern blood.