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Hellion Rex

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

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Does it? I thought it just mentioned what he thinks is responsible for the creation of the Ash Wraiths based on research.

No, he mentions the components that he uses too (a special taper and a black pearl).



Yeah I'm pretty sure he doesn't mention that he uses them, just that it's what the legends says Andraste's disciples used to supposedly become Ash Wraiths. The nature of Ash Wraiths is left ambigious in the lore, it's not clear whther they are truley Andraste's discples become Ash Wraiths or spirits from the Fade.

I am going with a type of Fade Spirit. I looked at the Wiki, particularly the section that lists where you can find Ash Wraiths, and they appear a lot in DA:O.

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Steelcan wrote...

Bra3d,

obviously picking and choosing what codex entries are canon is not your strong suit.

Oh, they aren't all canon and only the ones that support my argument are correct? I'm sorry, man.

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in my opinion everything is canon

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Br3ad wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Bra3d,

obviously picking and choosing what codex entries are canon is not your strong suit.

Oh, they aren't all canon and only the ones that support my argument are correct? I'm sorry, man.

One day you will learn how to BSN, until then just stick with strawmen and appeals to ____, you'll get there soon

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Morocco Mole wrote...

in my opinion everything is canon



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Yup, agree with everything. Speak softy, and bring a lot of guns. :)

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dragonflight288 wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

in my opinion everything is canon



https://encrypted-tb...C3dxWfp8FDTzHbA

Yup, agree with everything. Speak softy, and bring a lot of guns. :)

:DI thought it was "speak softly, and carry a big staff"!:D

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eluvianix wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

in my opinion everything is canon



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Yup, agree with everything. Speak softy, and bring a lot of guns. :)

:DI thought it was "speak softly, and carry a big staff"!:D


Teddy Roosevelt said "Speak softly and carry a big stick!" but I altered it slightly to fit the comment. :P

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dragonflight288 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

in my opinion everything is canon



https://encrypted-tb...C3dxWfp8FDTzHbA

Yup, agree with everything. Speak softy, and bring a lot of guns. :)

:DI thought it was "speak softly, and carry a big staff"!:D


Teddy Roosevelt said "Speak softly and carry a big stick!" but I altered it slightly to fit the comment. :P

I know the quote silly.;) I do have a degree in history after all.
I just made it more Dragon Age friendly.

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Very well, I'll amen my statement.

Speak softly and bring plenty of gaatlock.

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More Dakka is always good.

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dragonflight288 wrote...

Very well, I'll amen my statement.

Speak softly and bring plenty of gaatlock.


Now you're catching on!:P

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Br3ad wrote...

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Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.


In order to gain the skill of a Reaver don't one must make a dangerous deal with a demon?

No just drink dragon blood.


Or learn it from a demon.

You can only become a true Reaver through dragon's blood. 


Says who? Where is the source indicating this? Reaver is blood magic and blood magic comes from making deals with Demons.

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There are conflicting stories about where blood magic comes from and either way you don't need to make a pact with a demon to start using blood magic.

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eluvianix wrote...

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Yeah, I agree that Reaver is a form of blood magic. And the chantry would probably be more on its toes about it if it was as common, or accessible, as normal run of the mill blood magic. But they don't seem to be very common and even Haven was a very obscure town that the chantry probably didn't know about. Since they likely wouldn't tolerate such an extreme change of religious doctrine.


True. Reavers seem to be much more rare than the traditional blood mage. I mean, did we even really see that many reavers in DA2? I honestly cannot think of any off the top of my head.


DA2 no because it was mostly blood mages and the templars. DAO on the other hand 2 dwarfs and 1 human were confirmed Reavers.

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I'm pretty confident that DAO still had way more blood mages than reavers in the game.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 31 octobre 2013 - 06:33 .


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Lord Raijin wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Get back to me when Reavers are summoning demons, becoming abominations, and tearing the veil to pieces.


In order to gain the skill of a Reaver don't one must make a dangerous deal with a demon?

No just drink dragon blood.


Or learn it from a demon.

You can only become a true Reaver through dragon's blood. 


Says who? Where is the source indicating this? Reaver is blood magic and blood magic comes from making deals with Demons.


The codex on dragon cults and the DAII Reaver specialization blurb.

And blood magic doesn't come solely from making deals with Demons. It can come from that method, but that's by virtue of it being the fastest way possible. No doubt when the Chantry banned blood magic, they round up any and all tomes, papers, and whatever on the subject material and burned them.

Or kept them for safe keeping. Which would be interesting.

Phylacteries are blood magic after all, and unless that was a vestige of the Imperium's days I'd be curious as to how they discovered that one.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

Rolan, a former templar, infiltrated the Grey warden ranks to keep a close tap on Anders. He is accused of being an Abomination and then Rolan sicks his comrades (Templars) on Anders indicating that the Wardens agree with the decision. Anders fought and won, and finally left the Grey Wardens for good.


And rightfully so - he has allowed a Fade entitity to posses him.


If the wardens truly did agree it was only because they did not want to start up a war against the Chantry and the Templars. They were far too weak after dealing with the Blight. They were obligated, not because they did not want Anders... they did not want to engage war over 1 Grey Warden.


Prove it.
The GW aren't idiots. They know full well the danger of abominations.
And Anders there and then starts spouting nonsese and glowing like a chrismas tree.


The fact is it was the Grey wardens who betrayed Anders, not the other way around.


FACT - Anders is a moron who broke the basic laws of Ferelden, Chantry, Grey Wardens and common sense.

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I don't get why are templars so inclined to hunt Anders that they even sent one of them to the Grey Wardens to keep an eye? He's ordinary mage, why all the fuss? Templars also violate a direct order from Fereldan's king to let him be when conscripted.

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FACT - Anders is a moron who broke the basic laws of Ferelden, Chantry, Grey Wardens and common sense.


So are the red templars but you still seem to be supporting them

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Star fury wrote...

I don't get why are templars so inclined to hunt Anders that they even sent one of them to the Grey Wardens to keep an eye? He's ordinary mage, why all the fuss? Templars also violate a direct order from Fereldan's king to let him be when conscripted.

They probably didn't give two pots of ****** about Anders. Anders is just paranoid delussional that he thinks that ALL Templars are out to get him. It got even worse when he merged with Justice.

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DKJaigen wrote...

FACT - Anders is a moron who broke the basic laws of Ferelden, Chantry, Grey Wardens and common sense.


So are the red templars but you still seem to be supporting them

You know the Red Templars' MO? If so then please do share...

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DKJaigen wrote...

FACT - Anders is a moron who broke the basic laws of Ferelden, Chantry, Grey Wardens and common sense.


So are the red templars but you still seem to be supporting them


That assumes the Red Templars are the only Templars there will be in the game.

My guess? Factional split between fair-minded Templars that chose Lambert's course -- as opposed to fair-minded Templars that stood by Justinia -- and ****** zealots, the latter group being the Red Templars.

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

You know the Red Templars' MO? If so then please do share...

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NOPE NO BIAS HERE BOSS

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Star fury wrote...

I don't get why are templars so inclined to hunt Anders that they even sent one of them to the Grey Wardens to keep an eye? He's ordinary mage, why all the fuss? Templars also violate a direct order from Fereldan's king to let him be when conscripted.

They probably didn't give two pots of ****** about Anders. Anders is just paranoid delussional that he thinks that ALL Templars are out to get him. It got even worse when he merged with Justice.


Well, when Ser Rylock says she doesn't give a ****** what the crown says and that Chantry authority supercedes the crown...

And you can't really blame him for thinking he's in danger in Kirkwall. Fact is, no one was safe there.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 31 octobre 2013 - 09:41 .


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DKJaigen wrote...

FACT - Anders is a moron who broke the basic laws of Ferelden, Chantry, Grey Wardens and common sense.


So are the red templars but you still seem to be supporting them


Am I now?
Please, provide the quote where I said that and don't talk out of your butt.