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[Yestare7]

 
What a dumb question. Destroy all the time, every time.

[Saito404]

Control or Refuse? Destroy.

[jtav]

double post

Modifié par jtav, 25 juin 2013 - 02:02 .

[jtav]

As it happened, I chose Refuse. Surprisingly emotionally satisfying for all that it was a tragedy.

And Destroy isn't Paragon. Paragonss will take stupid risks to save lives right now. Destroy doesn't do that. Destroy is Renegade--end the threat, see the guilty punished.

[TK514]

Aside from Refuse, Destroy is the closest to a Paragon choice we get.

[Enhanced]

Paragon choices causes the least amount of death, damage, and destruction. So, if we rank them...

Least to Most death, damage, and destruction:

• Synthesis
• Control
• Destroy
• Refuse

Modifié par Enhanced, 25 juin 2013 - 03:13 .

[Slayer299]

Destroy is a Paragon choice OP

[Sir DeLoria]

Destroy is Anderson's chioce, Anderson is a Paragon

Control is TIM's choice, TIM is a Renegade

[Liamv2]

I will actually answer your question unlike most people here. I think control is more paragon than refuse.

[CronoDragoon]

Enhanced wrote...

Paragon choices causes the least amount of death, damage, and destruction.

That makes it sound like Paragons routinely use consequentialist logic. That seems dubious to me.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 25 juin 2013 - 06:22 .

[Bill Casey]

jtav wrote...

And Destroy isn't Paragon. Paragonss will take stupid risks to save lives right now. Destroy doesn't do that. Destroy is Renegade--end the threat, see the guilty punished.

Didn't you make a thread complaining about how the Destroy ending doesn't fit a renegade shepard?

Modifié par Bill Casey, 25 juin 2013 - 10:11 .

[jtav]

Bill Casey wrote...

jtav wrote...

And Destroy isn't Paragon. Paragonss will take stupid risks to save lives right now. Destroy doesn't do that. Destroy is Renegade--end the threat, see the guilty punished.

Didn't you make a thread complaining about how the Destroy ending doesn't fit a renegade shepard?

The epilogue doesn't. Hackett gives the same speech, which becomes jarring as you look out on the wastelands of Tuchanka and Rannoch. The choice itself is more in line with "destroy the heretics."

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Yestare7 wrote...

 
What a dumb question. Destroy all the time, every time.

This human understands!

[KaiserShep]

jtav wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

jtav wrote...

And Destroy isn't Paragon. Paragonss will take stupid risks to save lives right now. Destroy doesn't do that. Destroy is Renegade--end the threat, see the guilty punished.

Didn't you make a thread complaining about how the Destroy ending doesn't fit a renegade shepard?

The epilogue doesn't. Hackett gives the same speech, which becomes jarring as you look out on the wastelands of Tuchanka and Rannoch. The choice itself is more in line with "destroy the heretics."

The lack of variation leads me to believe that they were really pushing to have control and synthesis be the chosen lot, anything in which the reapers get to survive. That said, I'm curious about these alternate slides. I've never actually watched them. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 26 juin 2013 - 12:11 .

[Bill Casey]

jtav wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

jtav wrote...

And Destroy isn't Paragon. Paragonss will take stupid risks to save lives right now. Destroy doesn't do that. Destroy is Renegade--end the threat, see the guilty punished.

Didn't you make a thread complaining about how the Destroy ending doesn't fit a renegade shepard?

The epilogue doesn't. Hackett gives the same speech, which becomes jarring as you look out on the wastelands of Tuchanka and Rannoch. The choice itself is more in line with "destroy the heretics."

Rewriting the heretics is more renegade than destroying them...
It's ****ing deplorable...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 26 juin 2013 - 03:30 .

[Bill Casey]

We are also machines...

[Dextro Milk]

Bill Casey wrote...

We are also machines...

Semantics.

[Anubis722]

Yestare7 wrote...

 
What a dumb question. Destroy all the time, every time.

This one understands 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Bill Casey wrote...

We are also machines...

Oh we are so much more than that Bill.

But I won't get in the way of your self loathing so have fun.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 What's the fascination with paragonism that compels Destroyers to insist that it's the paragon choice, anyway?


Paragonism itself is nothing admirable. Without some significant doses of renegade in the mix, your Shepard is just a lawful idiot and a highly unprincipled individual (courtesty the inconsistency of the P/R system itself). Doubly so if Destroy were to be passed as the Paragon choice, because after letting countless dangerous individuals walk free to focus on saving lives immediately, committing genocide to stop the next bad guy is like the ultimate flip-flop. If you're going to embrace your inner Machiavelli at that level, what's the point of refusing to do the same on a much lower scale?

If Destroy is paragon, it's an example of paragonism at it's worst. As renegade, it fits your principle in respectable ways.

[Bill Casey]

Refuse is the only Paragon choice...
Control is more renegade than Destroy...
And Synthesis is the single most deplorable action in the trilogy, including the actions of the reapers...

Bioware told Paragons to go **** themselves...
They want to push Nietzschean garbage...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 26 juin 2013 - 05:38 .