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Ziegrif

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 Noticed that the 6A evo makes Reave deal with armor quite well so I have some additional questions.

1. Does Reave dmg stack when recast?

2. Does reave somehow interact with incendiary ammo as in glitch the hell out?

3. Just what is the maximum dmg Reave can do and what is the optimal setup for dmg?

4. Can Praetorians and Phantoms block reave? Banshees don't seem to bother blocking it and I never paid any attention if they blocked it.

5. Is it a hit scan power or does it have travel time albeit short?

6. A question about warp bubble: I got warp challenge done via Warp bubble and the bubble kills read as Warp. Can this be used with incendiary ammo like normal warp or is the glitch exclusive to the specific evolutions of warp?

7. Does Reave have a max range it can travel?

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#1 It stacks, #4 Praetorians and Phantoms can block it, but Phantoms don't bother to, Praetorians do, #5 hitscan as far as I know, #7 no max range, but its quite hard to hit outside of "targeting range".

Since I main Drells I made quite the experiences with Reave. A lovely power.

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1. Yes
2. Not that I know of.
3. A lot
4. No. Instanct cast power are never blocked. But maybe Praetorian can
5. Hit scan with a sphere. So you can aim it at the ground and have and invisible 3 meter sphere
6. Probably. Warp bubble warp is only lvl 1 though
7. Nope. As long as you can target - it'll hit. And you can also aim at the ground similar to Phase Disruptor

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Bubbles block all powers. Period.

Reave is hitscan, Warp is Warp.

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Number 6 is actually a warp question. Considering the title of your thread, shouldn't you make a new thread asking about warp?

Also why not just PM Cyonan? Oh right...

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Praetorians definitely activate bubble when you reave them in the air and they don't get the debuff. Phantoms are as far as I remember immune while in bubble, but they don't bubble ever just from reave, someone else has to throw something after them.

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Since Reave is hitscan it won't trigger the Phantom to put up her hand, but the DOT effect will end if someone else's projectile power causes her to do so.

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Ohnenick wrote...


Oh please, I will derp out whenever I wish. 

And thanks people. I use Biotics so little that I never bothered with knowing this stuff.

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You should know that you can get maximum 3 stacks, maybe 1-2 seconds of 4 stacks before the first effect will have worn out.

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DHKany wrote...

You should know that you can get maximum 3 stacks, maybe 1-2 seconds of 4 stacks before the first effect will have worn out.


Kinda thinking of reworking my Drell Adept into a reaver. To just try what it does. But yah the stacks kill Banshees and bosses really fast.

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Ziegrif wrote...

DHKany wrote...

You should know that you can get maximum 3 stacks, maybe 1-2 seconds of 4 stacks before the first effect will have worn out.


Kinda thinking of reworking my Drell Adept into a reaver. To just try what it does. But yah the stacks kill Banshees and bosses really fast.

 

Not really. DA is better with 40% DR and Reave/Cluster bombing. 

AJ can afford to take more powerful Reave. because she has more shields

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Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

DHKany wrote...
You should know that you can get maximum 3 stacks, maybe 1-2 seconds of 4 stacks before the first effect will have worn out.


Kinda thinking of reworking my Drell Adept into a reaver. To just try what it does. But yah the stacks kill Banshees and bosses really fast.

 

Not really. DA is better with 40% DR and Reave/Cluster bombing. 

AJ can afford to take more powerful Reave. because she has more shields


yep pretty much how I do it. B/A/B (i think) and clusternade spawns. I just need a good clusternade spec, but that's another thread.

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DHKany wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

DHKany wrote...
You should know that you can get maximum 3 stacks, maybe 1-2 seconds of 4 stacks before the first effect will have worn out.


Kinda thinking of reworking my Drell Adept into a reaver. To just try what it does. But yah the stacks kill Banshees and bosses really fast.

 

Not really. DA is better with 40% DR and Reave/Cluster bombing. 

AJ can afford to take more powerful Reave. because she has more shields


yep pretty much how I do it. B/A/B (i think) and clusternade spawns. I just need a good clusternade spec, but that's another thread.

 

I always go Radius/Damage Combo/Shrapnel for max area booms. :wizard:

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Air Quotes wrote...

Not really. DA is better with 40% DR and Reave/Cluster bombing. 

AJ can afford to take more powerful Reave. because she has more shields


My AJ already is a Reaver due to reasons.
Was just curious what'd happen if I went with it on the Drelldept.

Oh and does a BE stop a Reaves dot?

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Not really. DA is better with 40% DR and Reave/Cluster bombing. 

AJ can afford to take more powerful Reave. because she has more shields


My AJ already is a Reaver due to reasons.
Was just curious what'd happen if I went with it on the Drelldept.

Oh and does a BE stop a Reaves dot?

 

Nope. I don't think so. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Not really. DA is better with 40% DR and Reave/Cluster bombing. 

AJ can afford to take more powerful Reave. because she has more shields

yep pretty much how I do it. B/A/B (i think) and clusternade spawns. I just need a good clusternade spec, but that's another thread.

 
I always go Radius/Damage Combo/Shrapnel for max area booms. :wizard:

lol that's my current spec.... No need to worry about burning another card then:D

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Got another question.

If I Cryo blast or Cryo ammo a Brute then Reave it will Reave do more dmg due to the armor weakening effect?

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Ziegrif wrote...

Got another question.

If I Cryo blast or Cryo ammo a Brute then Reave it will Reave do more dmg due to the armor weakening effect?


cryo blast a brute with a drell/justicar? HAX:whistle:

not sure though tbh :/

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cryo blast a brute with a drell/justicar? HAX:whistle:

not sure though tbh :/


That's what you drag a QFE with you for.
Dunno, just thought it was worth a question cuz I use Cryo ammo with a reaver set up to not get shot all the bloody time by trash mobs so if it had more use than just CC it's be just fabulous.

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Got another question.

If I Cryo blast or Cryo ammo a Brute then Reave it will Reave do more dmg due to the armor weakening effect?


Armor weakening only affects weapons, powers are unaffected as they work with multipliers.
If you take the 10/15/25% more damage taken evolution reave will do more damage though.

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Ziegrif wrote...

Ohnenick wrote...


Oh please, I will derp out whenever I wish. 

And thanks people. I use Biotics so little that I never bothered with knowing this stuff.


So how do you like them so far?

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So how do you like them so far?


WEAAAAAAAAK!

Unless I'm using them to directly start a Fire explosion then it gets no real use.
For the amount of work you need to do to actually pull off a BE successfully multiple times the DMG just is not worth it. I get faster and better results by just sticking a high power weapon, some Incendiary ammo and using only one power to set off stuff.

Setting off multiple BEs is annoying juggling with CDs and it's not immediate so you need to keep your arse covered and worst of all I could be dealing much more dmg by just taking a high power weapon and a CC dot power like reave or DC or just basic warp and doing dmg that way with warp ammo and getting the enemy out of my way immediately. The guys with grenades are a different story though since they have an on call FE or BE so they're allright. Then there are the times when I put on a prime and start shooting and it's actually faster to just shoot the thing with my gun before the CD is over and I can maybe get a BE. Then there's the powers missing all the bloody time.

There's also my real problem with reave being it staggers a little but the stagger is really weak leaving you open, which is why I had to put on Cryo ammo with AJ to actually deny enemies.

There's also the problem of biotic primes being cancelled by EVERYTHING. You end up being a glorified Tech explosion detonator in the long run. This comes up especially with peeps who snap freeze, never really get any BEs done those matches. I know that it's polite to detonate everyone elses explosions which I do... at times... unless I'm screwing them over on purpose, but I wanna be the one to blow it up with space magic! Pretty colors damnit!

So yeah. Biotics are not for me. I dunno how to utilize em, I suck with biotic characters with no grenades, I just want that immediate reaction, which is why all my adepts are weapon platforms.

Oha nd on a side note I frigging hate Snap Freeze. It detonates only cryo explosions and whenever another prime is there and an explosion should happen it happens but on the detonators place making it useless and being replaced by a cryo prime. It feels like they're taking a toy out of your hand and saying NO!! ME!! Goddamnit I hate those lazy bastards.

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These questions are very useful for one`s own knowledge.. but play-wise, we just simply have to use reave as often as possible whenever possible without questining it too much since having enemies under reave effect is always beneficial.

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

These questions are very useful for one`s own knowledge.. but play-wise, we just simply have to use reave as often as possible whenever possible without questining it too much since having enemies under reave effect is always beneficial.


Well the thing is knowing is half the battle.

If I know this stuff I can optimize my use of it and I feel a lot more confident in what I do when I know exactly how something will work and how many stacks I should put on a Brute before I run away to shoot some cannibals.
Knowledge is teh key to power and optimizing the dmging use of reave can let you put some stacks on enemies and run around focusing on multiple fronts and letting the DOT just kill the things.

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In peddro's in game numerical test thread it says reave stacks 3 times and rank 5 power damage in the passives has no effect on reave

http://social.biowar.../index/13855086