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[Stjerne]

No, I'm getting this game no matter what.
I love the world of dragon age too much.

Origins is one of my favourite games and one of my most played.
I HAVE TO get this game no matter how bad the reviews are.
I have too much history and love for the franchise.

[Sutekh]

imbs wrote...

Pre-ordering at this point seems pretty stupid. It's impossible to gauge how good DAI will be as of right now, and their recent games have been completely inconsistent. The marks in this thread are exactly the reason things like Day 1 DLC and micro-transactions fly.

There's a difference between falling for a franchise and pre-ordering out of (admitted) blind love and condoning sleazy business practices such as micro-transactions.

In the end, though, it's our money; we use it as we see fit. No need to be all judgmental about it and pretend we're traitors - or gullilble suckers - working against the Holy Gamer True Cause, yeah? I actually find it puzzling that we have to explain and justify ourselves on the topic.

[Olmerto]

If you didn't enjoy the last game, then I would not preorder, but wait for reviews. If you did enjoy the last game (and the first), then I can see no problem with supporting the franchise by preorder or launch day purchase. It's an individual decision on the perceived merit of the series. I want to encourage Bioware and other companies to continue making games like this so the purchase without reviews makes sense to me.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Pre-ordering at this point seems pretty stupid. It's impossible to gauge how good DAI will be as of right now, and their recent games have been completely inconsistent.

But I loved Origins and Dragon Age 2. (For that matter, I enjoy The Old Republic as well.) Unless they release information that suggests it's going to be different from the previous games in the series in ways I disapprove of, why wouldn't I assume I'll love DAI too?

(I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games, so I don't care about that.)

[imbs]

Sutekh wrote...
There's a difference between falling for a franchise and pre-ordering out of (admitted) blind love and condoning sleazy business practices such as micro-transactions.

In the end, though, it's our money; we use it as we see fit. No need to be all judgmental about it and pretend we're traitors - or gullilble suckers - working against the Holy Gamer True Cause, yeah? I actually find it puzzling that we have to explain and justify ourselves on the topic.

Amusing post. The traitor thing is particularly ironic, considering that that is exactly the type of thing mindless fans often say of people who decide not to pre-order items of a particular franchise before there is *any* information available whatsoever.

Mindlessly pre-ordering sequels to games like that has been masquerading as loyalty for years. It's the same everywhere.

Bioware could literally make an absolutely mediocre game, sell it to you people for 40 quid and that wouldn't even be the end of it. You would defend said game no matter how rushed or shoddy it was, and you would probably be ready to pre-order the next game.

You don't have to defend yourselves at all; it is indeed your money. I am merely voicing my opinion that such practises are the height of stupidity. It's the reason why COD does so well after all. I take my hat off to companies who are smart enough to exploit it.

[batlin]

Stjerne wrote...

No, I'm getting this game no matter what.
I love the world of dragon age too much.

Origins is one of my favourite games and one of my most played.
I HAVE TO get this game no matter how bad the reviews are.
I have too much history and love for the franchise.

I said something like that before, about another game franchise. Ultima, it was called.

[xAmilli0n]

Nope. I stopped looking at reviews, professional or user reviews, ages ago. If a game interests me, I'll get it. End of story. Why should I let he opinions of others color my enjoyment of a game?

[Welsh Inferno]

batlin wrote...

Stjerne wrote...

No, I'm getting this game no matter what.
I love the world of dragon age too much.

Origins is one of my favourite games and one of my most played.
I HAVE TO get this game no matter how bad the reviews are.
I have too much history and love for the franchise.

I said something like that before, about another game franchise. Ultima, it was called.

I was like that for Mass Effect 3.

[BouncyFrag]

xAmilli0n wrote...

Nope. I stopped looking at reviews, professional or user reviews, ages ago. If a game interests me, I'll get it. End of story. Why should I let he opinions of others color my enjoyment of a game?

Because internet. Some people won't be happy until everyone knows how unahappy they are and that your opinion is factually wrong.

[0oSPIRITo0]

Stjerne wrote...

No, I'm getting this game no matter what.
I love the world of dragon age too much.

Origins is one of my favourite games and one of my most played.
I HAVE TO get this game no matter how bad the reviews are.
I have too much history and love for the franchise.

^ I feel the same way.

[xAmilli0n]

BouncyFrag wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

Nope. I stopped looking at reviews, professional or user reviews, ages ago. If a game interests me, I'll get it. End of story. Why should I let he opinions of others color my enjoyment of a game?

Because internet. Some people won't be happy until everyone knows how unahappy they are and that your opinion is factually wrong.

True enough, that is why I tend to avoid BSN for a while before and after a new game comes out, so I have enough had time to fully take it in and form my own opinion.

[I Like Cats And]

I'll preorder it out of love for Dragon Age: Origins. DAII was god awful and I honestly don't think Bioware is ever going to return to form of making good games (though I pray I'm wrong), and in the small chance I am wrong I want the Collector's Edition just like how I have for Origins and DAII.

[BouncyFrag]

xAmilli0n wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

xAmilli0n wrote...

Nope. I stopped looking at reviews, professional or user reviews, ages ago. If a game interests me, I'll get it. End of story. Why should I let he opinions of others color my enjoyment of a game?

Because internet. Some people won't be happy until everyone knows how unahappy they are and that your opinion is factually wrong.

True enough, that is why I tend to avoid BSN for a while before and after a new game comes out, so I have enough had time to fully take it in and form my own opinion.

There will be a point I bail from the threads since avoiding spoilers will be impossible.

[The Edge]

I feel the same way, OP. I waited on DA2 and, after seeing a variety of reactions, decided to simply rent it (which, to me, was a pretty good decision).

I hope the DA:I does better, but I won't put blind faith into that prospect. To be fair, though, I rarely buy a game on the first day anyways, no matter how promising the game.

[Victia]

I understand where you are coming from op, I stopped looking at professional reviews right after the me3 debacle, if im honest I will probably pre order but if I again feel I have wasted my money I will be the last bioware game I buy.

Even though I was a little disappointed by da2 and very disappointed by me3, with the number of amazing games bioware has produced the odds are still in their favour

[zyntifox]

I'll read user reviews and comments commenting the roleplayability of the game to decide whether i'll buy it or not. Professional reviewers tend to focus on things in games i don't really care about e.g. graphics. Sylvius the mad and Fast Jimmy on this forum are usually pretty spot on the subject of roleplayability in games so i'll probably await their stamp of approval before making a purchase.

[Twisted Path]

North Light36 wrote...

Spider-Man 3 was a shockingly bad movie, in my opinion, and didn't live up to the promises of a fantastic story with deep and sympathetic villians. Doesn't mean I get to demand the producer refunds my movie ticket. I choose to see the movie in cinema. The fact I didn't LIKE the movie doesn't mean I didn't get the opportunity to sit for two hours and watch actors playing roles. I got what I paid for.

When Spider-Man 3 came out a bunch of people told me that Peter Parker does a silly emo dance and it's just awful and the rest of the movie is too. So I avoided the movie. Word of mouth is a wonderful thing. Thus word of mouth is one of the things I'll use to gauge whether I'll buy another Bioware game in the future.

That said I do actually buy or watch stuff based on negative reviews sometimes. If someone complains about a movie having a bunch of dumb pulpy stuff that it sounds like I might actually like I'll go see it.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 16 juin 2013 - 07:43 .

[Sutekh]

imbs wrote...

Amusing post. The traitor thing is particularly ironic, considering that that is exactly the type of thing mindless fans often say of people who decide not to pre-order items of a particular franchise before there is *any* information available whatsoever.

Closed-minded extremists are everywhere, on every side. You don't see anyone here claiming surprise or asking people why they won't pre-order, though, be it in this thread or any pre-order / wait for reviews related ones. Hence my puzzlement.

Mindlessly pre-ordering sequels to games like that has been masquerading as loyalty for years. It's the same everywhere.

Can't speak for others, but I'm not pre-ordering out of loyalty. I'm pre-ordering out of love for the franchise - its world, setting and characters - and because, so far, I have not been "burned" or "disappointed". Let's just say that there's 90% chance that I'll like the game, 60% that I'll love it, and that's enough for me. Also - and this is important - pre-orders can be cancelled in case of catastrophe. It's not as though we sign a contract in blood and promise our soul.

Bioware could literally make an absolutely mediocre game, sell it to you people for 40 quid and that wouldn't even be the end of it. You would defend said game no matter how rushed or shoddy it was, and you would probably be ready to pre-order the next game.

Nope. I've criticized DA2. A lot. I've even criticized DAO (a little). Loving something or liking something doesn't mean being blind to its flaws. If DA:I is really bad, then I won't be pre-ordering the next one, and I'll wait for a price drop before buying. Also, you shouldn't assume what I (or others) would do, based only on my pre-ordering. That's a very close-minded view of things.

You don't have to defend yourselves at all; it is indeed your money. I am merely voicing my opinion that such practises are the height of stupidity. It's the reason why COD does so well after all. I take my hat off to companies who are smart enough to exploit it.

Ah. The mandatory hyperbole. There are many things that can be qualified as "the height of stupidity". Pre-ordering a game, for whatever reason, isn't one of them. It's not wise, obviously, but being unwise is good sometimes, especially when the worst consequence is not liking the game. I think I can survive that.

[5ubzer0]

No, I would buy it today if I could.

[LinksOcarina]

If you are going to wait for user reviews for the game, I honestly believe you wasting your time in the end. Now I admit I am biased since I do write reviews as a little side hobby, but on the same token here is the problem you face; can you trust their opinions to be less biased than the other?

Because let's face it, every single review ever written is laden with bias. It's a natural thing as all, so all professional reviewers to bloggers to entertainers are lying to you if they believe they are being unbias. Hell, I have said that before and I admit I am biased to you all.

However, there is a difference between bias and tact. If you hate the company, but like the game, you talk about that. If you think the game is mediocre but still good, you need to convey that. Few people can do so without resorting to the bullet-point lists we see all the time, and worse yet, most people assume their word is gospel as well.

So I guess my point is this; if you want to wait for user reviews, go for it. It makes no difference in the end though because you are basically trading one opinion for another. The only difference is you know the more professional reviewers are at least more tactful in presenting their biasedness. They may suck at stating it, which is something that angers me, but its something to keep in mind.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 16 juin 2013 - 08:06 .

[bEVEsthda]

I would probably like to say that I would wait until I've formed an opinion from the grapevine, youtube, etc.
But I probably won't. I have too much passion invested in DA, both in DA:Origin and as ****ing on BSN about DA2.
I just have to have DA:I. Even if it's bad.  I know it in my heart. Only thing that can stop me would be some new unpleasentries in Origin.

Overall, I think the teaser trailer and various news has put a new, giddy euphoria in my chest. I think this will be good.

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 16 juin 2013 - 08:36 .

[bEVEsthda]

Twisted Path wrote...

When Spider-Man 3 came out a bunch of people told me that Peter Parker does a silly emo dance and it's just awful and the rest of the movie is too. So I avoided the movie. Word of mouth is a wonderful thing.

Funny thing, I know some exact same thing happened to me a long time ago. The movie was "crap" they said. So I didn't see it. For some years. Eventually I was forced to. Turned out the movie was totally awesome. Don't trust friends. Specially not the kind that goes "emo" this and "emo" that.

[Tarek]

did not HATE DA2 it was just not as good as DAO

hope DAI is better than both combined

[The Night Haunter]

I liked DAO, had some fun with DA2 and was satisfied with ME3. I don't have so little money I can only buy 1 game per year, so since I know DA3 will be at least as good as many other games that release in 2014 and since there are almost no other big budget RPGs that release besides DA and Witcher they will satisfy me.

Whether its a 9/10 game or just a 7/10 game I will have fun with it and so it will be a day 1 buy. Bioware has never made a game I actually disliked, ME3 in its initial release was a bit of a let down at the end, but the free DLC made up for it, and even with the 'poor' ending it was still a good game. So rather than run around hysterically I will calmly await the release, buy it, and get my moneys worth out of it. Afterall, Bioware's poorer efforts are better than many other developer's better efforts.

[TCBC_Freak]

I'll probably pre-order the collector's edition if I can.