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Eveangaline

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I realize this is a longshot, especially since we don't know if there'll be time jumps in this game like there were in da2, but could the PC having children (adopted or otherwise) be an option?

In da1 the only way to have kids was to be a male dwarf noble warden and have that one quest where you get a woman pregnant, or to knock up morrigan.

When da2 had ten years of playable time and you got a big old house I admit I thought you would be able to fill it with people who worked for you or were related to you.

I realize that kids aren't something you could fully do with the whole 'saving the world in chaos' thing, but they don't have to be babies, it could be that one of the background options involve having children already. Heck if they're already a teen they could be an npc that makes armor or vendors for you.

Edit: Some people seem to have mistaken my post as suggesting the main character would HAVE to have kids, which isn't what I'm suggesting. I'd just like the option to start with older kids or maybe have some in the game (if timeskips. Or if not, adoption). Not anything where you have to.

Modifié par Eveangaline, 16 juin 2013 - 08:26 .


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I think having meaningful family relationships in-game requires a tremendous amount of resources, and if that isn't the focus of the game, it easily (and quickly) becomes a very contrived and poorly done feature. Suddenly people will want to hate their kids, or have estranged kids, or take their kids with them, or train them, or...

The list goes on.

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Not ingame, hopefully. But the best way to do it (I think) would be for your LI to ask how you'd feel about having a family sometime in the future, and let your imagination take it from there if you say yes.

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I will really like to have a family in the game, but is like "In Exile" says. Lot of resources and isn't the focus of the game.

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The world is falling down around everyone and the pc is thinking about having kids...maybe it can be mentioned in the epilogue if the story turns out well but something along the lines of skyrim uhh don't see that

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I wish, especially since my biological click is ticking on overdrive.

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Yes.

I came up with an origin idea about 7 months back, regarding offspring.

In a nutshell, I thought it would be compelling to play a character who has a preteen/adolescent son or daughter who was born a mage and taken to the circle.

I thought this would really set the tone for the pc, giving him or her a reason to loathe the circle and sympathize with mages.

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 There might be a chance your warden may have children if you married Alistair and became queen or married Anora and became King since you're expected to have an heir. But other than that I doubt this will happen. :P
Edit: I will admit though the idea would be a fun twist.

Modifié par LikesThingsHatesStuff, 16 juin 2013 - 06:31 .


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in some cases when DA 2 is coming and we know that Hawke would be noble i think that he would have his castle and dynasty and become Kirkwal ruler after defeating Arishok

and as he is noble why he not have his own childrens for damn 10 years especially when he have romances(and why our character does not marry)

...especially when all what left of his family is only his unckle what he hate and optional(sister/brother who may die in deep roads)
....especially when after Lothering he still lives 10 years with his mother in his small(first thing why i am not like hawke house) manor after he have money, officially become noble and can easily buy her own manor with guards(the second thing what i not like hawke house) servants and other stuff

for what hawke is really fighting?....imagine what if hawke have cildrens from his romances, especially what if he would have mage(all of some of them(his father sister and unckle was a mages)) childrens... you can understand that situation and fealings of the many conflicts would be different

i would like the same tecnology for childrens as we see with Hawke family members when they was look like his relatives

i am for PC childrens since DAO

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 16 juin 2013 - 06:43 .


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LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

 There might be a chance your warden may have children if you married Alistair and became queen or married Anora and became King since you're expected to have an heir. But other than that I doubt this will happen. :P
Edit: I will admit though the idea would be a fun twist.


Two wardens can't have kids, right? So you couldn't if you were Alistairs queen. I mean unless you did the ending where you have Zevran on the side, but I'm pretty sure that's a glitch.

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Player character children? I'd hope not, too much of a hassle.

Companion children? That'd be nice, the companion does all the parenting off-screen.

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Eveangaline wrote...

LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

 There might be a chance your warden may have children if you married Alistair and became queen or married Anora and became King since you're expected to have an heir. But other than that I doubt this will happen. :P
Edit: I will admit though the idea would be a fun twist.


Two wardens can't have kids, right? So you couldn't if you were Alistairs queen. I mean unless you did the ending where you have Zevran on the side, but I'm pretty sure that's a glitch.


I'm sure they can it's just VERY VERY unlikely. When you talk to Alistair he never really gives you a straigt answer, just that he hasn't met any wardens that have had children after the warden ritual. So you never know.:)

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LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

 There might be a chance your warden may have children if you married Alistair and became queen or married Anora and became King since you're expected to have an heir. But other than that I doubt this will happen. :P
Edit: I will admit though the idea would be a fun twist.


Two wardens can't have kids, right? So you couldn't if you were Alistairs queen. I mean unless you did the ending where you have Zevran on the side, but I'm pretty sure that's a glitch.


I'm sure they can it's just VERY VERY unlikely. When you talk to Alistair he never really gives you a straigt answer, just that he hasn't met any wardens that have had children after the warden ritual. So you never know.:)

lthough Grey Wardens are not forbidden from marrying, it is rare for them to do so. Their short lifespans make them poor candidates for parenthood or long-term relationships. Even if they are not killed in battle against the darkspawn, they rarely survive past middle age due to the darkspawn taint. Most Grey Wardens dedicate their brief lives to fulfilling their duty, leaving them little time for pursuits such as family life. Furthermore, the taint makes conceiving a child very difficult (nearly impossible if both partners are Grey Wardens).

Interspecies relationships are possible in some circumstances, but frequently frowned upon by one or both of the parents' cultures. Elves, for example, are bound only to produce children with their own kind because their race is dying, and a child of such a relationship would be human. Relationships with humans are considered traitorous, and any elf who conceives a child by a human risks expulsion from his or her community.
Dwarves and humans can also reproduce (such a union will produce a half-dwarf), but this is very rare, as dwarves consider humans and elves to be lesser races.
-David Gaider

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 16 juin 2013 - 06:49 .


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LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

 There might be a chance your warden may have children if you married Alistair and became queen or married Anora and became King since you're expected to have an heir. But other than that I doubt this will happen. :P
Edit: I will admit though the idea would be a fun twist.


Two wardens can't have kids, right? So you couldn't if you were Alistairs queen. I mean unless you did the ending where you have Zevran on the side, but I'm pretty sure that's a glitch.


I'm sure they can it's just VERY VERY unlikely. When you talk to Alistair he never really gives you a straigt answer, just that he hasn't met any wardens that have had children after the warden ritual. So you never know.:)


I thought gaider had flat out stated at some point that wardens can have children, but not with each other? I'll try to find that.


Edit: Whoops, looks like someone else found and posted before me

Modifié par Eveangaline, 16 juin 2013 - 06:48 .


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Dark Korsar wrote...

LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

LikesThingsHatesStuff wrote...

 There might be a chance your warden may have children if you married Alistair and became queen or married Anora and became King since you're expected to have an heir. But other than that I doubt this will happen. :P
Edit: I will admit though the idea would be a fun twist.


Two wardens can't have kids, right? So you couldn't if you were Alistairs queen. I mean unless you did the ending where you have Zevran on the side, but I'm pretty sure that's a glitch.


I'm sure they can it's just VERY VERY unlikely. When you talk to Alistair he never really gives you a straigt answer, just that he hasn't met any wardens that have had children after the warden ritual. So you never know.:)

lthough Grey Wardens are not forbidden from marrying, it is rare for them to do so. Their short lifespans make them poor candidates for parenthood or long-term relationships. Even if they are not killed in battle against the darkspawn, they rarely survive past middle age due to the darkspawn taint. Most Grey Wardens dedicate their brief lives to fulfilling their duty, leaving them little time for pursuits such as family life. Furthermore, the taint makes conceiving a child very difficult (nearly impossible if both partners are Grey Wardens).

Interspecies relationships are possible in some circumstances, but frequently frowned upon by one or both of the parents' cultures. Elves, for example, are bound only to produce children with their own kind because their race is dying, and a child of such a relationship would be human. Relationships with humans are considered traitorous, and any elf who conceives a child by a human risks expulsion from his or her community.
Dwarves and humans can also reproduce (such a union will produce a half-dwarf), but this is very rare, as dwarves consider humans and elves to be lesser races.
-David Gaider


So it could technically happen, but likely impossible. However, I feel like they still have a highish chance since being king and all you need an heir or people start getting restless. That's why Alistair was sort of freaking out about getting married to ANOTHER Grey Warden since he knows the people would get frustrated. But who even knows if the warden will be featured in DA:I :huh:

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Please no. Reductive notions of childhood innocence in a cheap bid to garner sympathy from the audience make me barf, roll my eyes and then barf some more.

I can accept a well-written, multi-faceted child character like, say, Ellie, in The Last of Us. But there are fifty million "older person rescues/escorts young girl and establishes father/daughter-style emotional bond" plots in video games right now, and we don't need any more for a good few years at least.

And having children just for the sake of having them is stupid. Dragon Age is not an open-world game that you can play indefinitely. It is a fixed narrative taking place over a specific amount of time.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 16 juin 2013 - 07:15 .


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Kids are gross. No.

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Kids are gross. No.


I'd just like the option, not have it be something you have to have.

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I played this game. It was called the Walking Dead. I got all teary-eyed at the end.

The presence of children in video games is all but a surefire way of ensuring a) the child dies, or B) the parental guardian dies, all but guaranteeing the death of the child. Noooooooooooo thanks.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 16 juin 2013 - 07:56 .


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Eveangaline wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Kids are gross. No.


I'd just like the option, not have it be something you have to have.


In the epilogue sure. Having kids while you're out saving the world seems irresponsible. Unless there's just this random kid wandering about. Then I guess it's fine? Just as long as I'm not forced to form an emotional attachment to it. Cuz you just KNOW it's gonna get possessed by a demon at some point and then it's shanky-time.

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 16 juin 2013 - 08:10 .


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Yes, kid companions who join us in combat and get beat up and stabbed a lot. pls.

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There were kids in Origins, but I don't recall seeing any children in DA2. So I don't think there will be children in DAI, for some reason.

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Giving birth or adopting during the game seems problematic to me. What would likely work better would be for the LI and PC to talk about parenthood at one point and then have them getting a child in the epilogue.

For straight couples, you could maybe hint that the woman is pregnant during the game itself, as well. But that would create a divide between opposite- and same-sex romances, one I'm not sure would be desired by most.

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Implying a companion is pregnant without killing them off shortly after is a storytelling crime.

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Plaintiff wrote...

Please no. Reductive notions of childhood innocence in a cheap bid to garner sympathy from the audience make me barf, roll my eyes and then barf some more.

I can accept a well-written, multi-faceted child character like, say, Ellie, in The Last of Us. But there are fifty million "older person rescues/escorts young girl and establishes father/daughter-style emotional bond" plots in video games right now, and we don't need any more for a good few years at least.

And having children just for the sake of having them is stupid. Dragon Age is not an open-world game that you can play indefinitely. It is a fixed narrative taking place over a specific amount of time.


Bad guy :  I need to kill someone today. Who that gonna be ? You ?
Daddy 1 : Eh you can't kill me .. I have a daugher !!

Bad guys : I can sympathize with that. What about you ? You don't have a the face of a man who got children !
Daddy 2 : Well actually since you're asking.... I do. All they have left in this world is me !!

Bad guys : Geez not my lucky day ..  AH ! I know for sure that YOU . YOU don't.
Daddy 3: Me ? Yes ... but ...
Bad guys : WHAT again ?
Daddy 3: I plan to have kids ... Please.. You won't deny me this ? Me and my girlfriend  planned marrying!!! We love each others !!!! Ain't that enough !

POW

Daddy 1: He He .... Killed himself ?
Daddy 2: Guess he had no kids or did not plan to have any !!
Daddy 3: Poor bastard ! He should have

The end.