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[Chewin]

Hope so. Worst protagonist I've played, and I would be glad to see him just dead.

[KiwiQuiche]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Sister Goldring wrote...

Oh except for Alistair - I love him. Leave Alistair ALONE!

Anora already executed Alistair.

I certainly will have a few saves of "death-via-deheading" for Alistair since his speshul-ness is reaching critical mass.

That and having him call my Warden a back-stabbing snake when he gave Anora permission was hilarious. Ah, the many ways you can play that game.

[Major Crackhead]

FaWa wrote...

"Worried" isn't the right word.

Better options:

Hopeful
Wishing
Praying that

[Dormiglione]

nedpepper wrote...

I didn't spend all that time playing Dragon Age 2 to have Hawke killed offscreen to sate a bunch of bitter people who hated Dragon Age 2. Honestly, I prefer Hawke over cardboard cutout super hero Warden. And honestly, I feel like the Warden's story actually ended. Whereas Hawke was left hanging in a murky non ending.

Truth be told, it's going to be extremely difficult to bring the Warden back in any sense anyway. So, I've made peace with my Warden riding off into the sunset. Stopped a Blight, went on his calling, and that's that. But Hawke still has mileage, and I think it would be foolish not to use the character in some form. I would like to believe Cassandra was looking for him for a reason. Hawke being a supporting character would actually be extremely interesting, if they can find a way to port the character, both appearance and dominant personality type into the game. (Snarky, noble, or aggressive. )

This new "I hate Hawke and want him/her dead" stuff is just short-sighted, unimaginative trolling.

On the other hand, if you're going to kill the character, at least make it memorable. Otherwise, you basically admit that Dragon Age 2 was a waste of time. And that would really irritate me. In fact, it would be a complete deal breaker. You would essentially be saying, "Everything you did in DA 2 was going to happen anyway, and you basically wasted your time playing it." Not exactly a way to instill good will in your fanbase.

I understand your points but there are always two sides of a medal. Im a fan of the warden and i dislike Hawke. I would like to continue the adventure with my warden, but im realistic enough to accept the fact that the Story of my warden is over.
As for Hawke, its not Hawke himself that i dislike,, i dislike how the Storyline for Hawke was written. The Story was just railroaded, not one meaningful decision, his character was too soft. DA2 was the first game that let me wish i could the choice to play another character of the game, and not having to play Hawke. 

[Paragon Gabriel]

Chewin3 wrote...

Hope so. Worst protagonist I've played, and I would be glad to see him just dead.

Agreed on the worst protagonist part, but personally I want to be the one striking the killing blow.

[Sister Goldring]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Sister Goldring wrote...

Oh except for Alistair - I love him. Leave Alistair ALONE!

Anora already executed Alistair.

Yep........ we can never be friends. 

[Arcadian Legend]

Eh, not really, though Hawke isn't the worst RPG protagonist out there, I've played as worse. Sarcastic Hawke is the only Hawke I can tolerate.

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 06 juillet 2013 - 10:15 .

[Teddie Sage]

Ukki wrote...

It's Cullen. Too much love from this forum smothered him.

I wish that was true. I dislike the way he treats mages even though I know his story.

[Synthetic Moose]

The dead body has breasts, so it is a woman. The Hawke used in the trailers is male, so I doubt it. I hope that Hawke is alive. I loved my sarcastic FemHawke

[Zetheria Tabris]

nedpepper wrote...

This new "I hate Hawke and want him/her dead" stuff is just short-sighted, unimaginative trolling.

So people can't have opinions now without being trolls? I'll admit there are a few people who want him dead just for the sake of their hatred, but that's a bit dismissive of people's opinions, isn't it?

Honestly, I prefer Hawke over cardboard cutout super hero Warden.

At least the Warden did stuff. <_<

Hawke wasn't a hero at all. He didn't do anything, she/he was just a bystander that watched Isabela and Anders shape the plots of Act 2 and 3. Hawke is nothing but an errand boy who cleans up the messes of his companions and is called a Champion for doing so, for some reason. In my opinion he is completely incompetent, not to mention he's obviously an intended Shepard for the Dragon Age series - something that Bioware failed at immensely. That is why I hate him/her, and wouldn't mind if he died. Because of this, I'm a short sighted and unimaginative troll?

Modifié par Zetheria Tabris, 08 juillet 2013 - 08:50 .

[AstraDrakkar]

I hope Hawke is dead as well.......unless my Inquisitor has the option of killing him/her. If anyone could be classified as an agent of chaos...it's Hawke.

[Mothalickaz]

FaWa wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

FaWa wrote...

"Worried" isn't the right word.

Better options:

Hopeful
Wishing
Praying that

I get DA 2 was not a favorite amongst fans, but why the Hawke hate?

He (/she)
Is
Not
Shepard 2.0
Bioware needs to stop trying to remake Shepard. It won't happen. Hawke was extremely frustrating to play as. I'll admit a big part of that was the diaologue wheel.

Also I want no remnants of DA2 in DAI

This. I enjoyed playing through DA 2, the game was fun, even if it had a lot of flaws and didn't live up to it's predecessor. 

But I don't count DA 2 as a true DA game, but rather a game with the DA IP slapped onto it. We might as well call it "Mass Effect: Medievil Fantasy Edition". They tried to make DA too much like Mass Effect when it never had to be that in the first place. DA could have had it's own formula, and could have just IMPROVED on some of the features of Origins with updated graphics and it would have been another GOTY. 

Neverwinter Nights for example. Biowares NW was a lot better than NW 2(imo), but NW 2 still held the original formula that everyone enjoyed from the first game. DA 2 just completely threw everything out the window, and it seemed as if they started a whole new IP. I suppose change is good, but not that much change...if you can even call it a change since they just copied what they did with ME, and not ME1, ME2.

Which is another thing that bothered me, which was the dumbing down of customization and RPG elements. 

But, other than that, I enjoyed Hawke, and if we had to have a voiced, pre-picked protagonist, i'm glad it's him/her. The companions weren't as strong or as diverse as origins, and you didn't get half as much dialogue options with them, but I loved my Varric/Anders/Isabella team, and I think they did a good job making another morrigan type companion with isabella. 

Oh, and to answer the OP, I won't be worried or relived if Hawke is dead, I am now curious thank to this thread, but other than that, I could care less, really.

[Sifr]

I personally adore Hawke and enjoyed playing as them, somewhat even more than the Warden to be honest.

I don't want to see either characters dead in future installments or even cameo. Give me a codex entry hinting at what they might be doing but I'd rather they continue being the unseen heroes of their own tales. Let the Inquisitor have their own story, rather than play second fiddle.

It'd be a shame if the Inquisitor simply became known as "The guy who killed the Warden and Hawke".

Modifié par Sifr1449, 08 juillet 2013 - 10:12 .

[NedPepper]

Zetheria Tabris wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

This new "I hate Hawke and want him/her dead" stuff is just short-sighted, unimaginative trolling.

So people can't have opinions now without being trolls? I'll admit there are a few people who want him dead just for the sake of their hatred, but that's a bit dismissive of people's opinions, isn't it?

Honestly, I prefer Hawke over cardboard cutout super hero Warden.

At least the Warden did stuff. <_<

Hawke wasn't a hero at all. He didn't do anything, she/he was just a bystander that watched Isabela and Anders shape the plots of Act 2 and 3. Hawke is nothing but an errand boy who cleans up the messes of his companions and is called a Champion for doing so, for some reason. In my opinion he is completely incompetent, not to mention he's obviously an intended Shepard for the Dragon Age series - something that Bioware failed at immensely. That is why I hate him/her, and wouldn't mind if he died. Because of this, I'm a short sighted and unimaginative troll?

No, the people who are trolling are trolls.  If you don't like Hawke, fine.  I just think demanding his/her death because you hate the character is a tad selfish, no?  I don't like Cullen, nor do I understand the fangirl squeeing, but I'm not saying to kill Cullen or that Cullen can never be in another Dragon Age game?  Why?  Because who am I to take away someone else's enjoyment of a character?

And Hawke was interesting BECAUSE everything didn't revolve around him/her.  Hawke isn't a super hero.  He's not the doomed chosen one messiah figure that has become a cliche.  He's just a guy trying to survive who ends up being in the center of one of the biggest uprisings in the history of Thedas.  And THAT, to me, is actually a lot more interesting.  What would be even more interesting is how he/she is reacting to it after the fact.  Because we never got that.  And that's why I think there's a lot of mileage left in the tank for Hawke.  

Whereas the Warden's story honestly feels complete.  It was an epic hero's journey.  While Hawke got shafted with an abrupt non ending.

[BlazingSpeed]

Twisted Path wrote...

FaWa wrote...

"Worried" isn't the right word.

Better options:

Hopeful
Wishing
Praying that

This is almost exactly what I came here to say. Replace worried with hopeful.

[Magdalena11]

Better to have the hero going out in a blaze of glory than like a fading rock star playing in a podunk town staging his "comeback."

[Duncaaaaaan]

I hope he is dead and rotting because Hawke was terrible.

[Bionuts]

DA2 wasn't that great, but the derpy overreaction is stupid.

Hawke (female) had plenty personality. Funny, sad, confident, bad leader, flirty, etc.

[Angrywolves]

nah not the worst protagonist.
Gaider wrote hawke to fail.sad.
Hope hawke isn't dead although Bioware would prefer to forget hawke.

[IC-07]

Hm... If he isn't, maybe we can ask for a "Dead Hawke DLC".

[garrusfan1]

it wasn't hawk. and all this hawk hate is stupid and annoying. it is a fad now to say you want him dead

[jtav]

I love my Hawkes to tiny bits (except for the one I'm playing now in case some in this thread get what they want. I don't need to see them again, but I do need to know they're okay.

[Stalker]

Couldn't care less. Hawke was one of the very few protagonists in gaming I really disliked, no matter how I played him.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 13 juillet 2013 - 07:13 .

[Hadeedak]

nedpepper wrote...

Zetheria Tabris wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

This new "I hate Hawke and want him/her dead" stuff is just short-sighted, unimaginative trolling.

So people can't have opinions now without being trolls? I'll admit there are a few people who want him dead just for the sake of their hatred, but that's a bit dismissive of people's opinions, isn't it?

Honestly, I prefer Hawke over cardboard cutout super hero Warden.

At least the Warden did stuff. <_<

Hawke wasn't a hero at all. He didn't do anything, she/he was just a bystander that watched Isabela and Anders shape the plots of Act 2 and 3. Hawke is nothing but an errand boy who cleans up the messes of his companions and is called a Champion for doing so, for some reason. In my opinion he is completely incompetent, not to mention he's obviously an intended Shepard for the Dragon Age series - something that Bioware failed at immensely. That is why I hate him/her, and wouldn't mind if he died. Because of this, I'm a short sighted and unimaginative troll?

No, the people who are trolling are trolls.  If you don't like Hawke, fine.  I just think demanding his/her death because you hate the character is a tad selfish, no?  I don't like Cullen, nor do I understand the fangirl squeeing, but I'm not saying to kill Cullen or that Cullen can never be in another Dragon Age game?  Why?  Because who am I to take away someone else's enjoyment of a character?

And Hawke was interesting BECAUSE everything didn't revolve around him/her.  Hawke isn't a super hero.  He's not the doomed chosen one messiah figure that has become a cliche.  He's just a guy trying to survive who ends up being in the center of one of the biggest uprisings in the history of Thedas.  And THAT, to me, is actually a lot more interesting.  What would be even more interesting is how he/she is reacting to it after the fact.  Because we never got that.  And that's why I think there's a lot of mileage left in the tank for Hawke.  

Whereas the Warden's story honestly feels complete.  It was an epic hero's journey.  While Hawke got shafted with an abrupt non ending.

That's why I'm very partial to Hawke. S/he was a odd protagonist to play, because s/he was swept up in events beyond her control, trying to keep hold of whatever matters most to that particular Hawke. Including on the other side of the fourth wall, with the budget and developement time and the canceled DLC ranging against her. I like my noble loser, a lot more than most of the characters I played.

It was easy to make Hawke actually try and seem to work at things.... because Hawke was allowed (and forced to) fail when confronted with things beyond her control. It made her more interesting on a few levels. So yeah. I'm hoping something went right for the little gal, and she's not the body in the bag.

[rapscallioness]

I highly doubt Hawke is dead. I'm not worried.

I loved Hawke more than my Warden.