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[Huyna]

Hawk is not dead.
He and Warden are waiting for the right moment  to come and save the day.

And, maybe, to kill Anders again, if this whiny bipolar bomber will somehow reappear in DA:I.

[Azaron Nightblade]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I hope Hawke's not dead. Between my Warden dying in DA:O, what happens to Shepard, and the canon versions and fates of Reven and the Exile, it would suck big time if they just killed Hawke off screen, or even during the course of the game. I'm hoping Hawke doesn't make an appearance at all, and I can keep imagining my Hawke's now living a peaceful life with Merrill somewhere.

It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to pre-order DA:I, like I've done with pretty much all Bioware games in the past.
If they go down that road again and go "Haha, happy endings are SOOO 90's - stomping every character's legacy into the ground is the new cool thing to do, bro!" I'll be done with Bioware's games for good.
Though I'm not entirely sure what happened with Revan and the Exile was Bioware's doing or Obsidian Entertainment's.

[Mello]

AresKeith wrote...

Seboist wrote...

J. Reezy wrote...

Star fury wrote...
But I don't mind having female Hawke as a LI - she's smoking hot, clueless and easy to manipulate. Excellent girlfriend.

Par for the course for BioWare LI's.

He forgot to mention that Bioware LIs just require the PC to have a pulse to romance.

You sure about that? lol

Not to brag or anything, but my Hawke was pretty hot. 

[AresKeith]

^ pics or it didn't happen

[BombThatDeadGuy]

I don't see why Bioware would kill Hawke off or for that matter bother to bring him back. Just keep Hawke out of DA:I. It's a fair compromise

The people that hate Hawke don't kill him but at the same time don't have to put up with him.

The people that like Hawke don't see him but at the same time know he's still alive and will show up later.

I don't see any good reason why Bioware would put him in the game just to die, not everyone hated Hawke so why anger these people to satisfy the other group who want him dead.

If they ever do decide Hawke should die, then it should be done by the player playing as Hawke, not by the Warden, not by the Inquistitor, not by Sandal, not by Flemeth, not by random bandit, only by the player playing as Hawke.

[Rawgrim]

BombThatDeadGuy wrote...

I don't see why Bioware would kill Hawke off or for that matter bother to bring him back. Just keep Hawke out of DA:I. It's a fair compromise

The people that hate Hawke don't kill him but at the same time don't have to put up with him.

The people that like Hawke don't see him but at the same time know he's still alive and will show up later.

I don't see any good reason why Bioware would put him in the game just to die, not everyone hated Hawke so why anger these people to satisfy the other group who want him dead.

If they ever do decide Hawke should die, then it should be done by the player playing as Hawke, not by the Warden, not by the Inquistitor, not by Sandal, not by Flemeth, not by random bandit, only by the player playing as Hawke.

Hawke is Bioware`s character. Not the player`s character.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Strictly speaking, isn't that the case for every player character?

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 20 juin 2013 - 03:58 .

[Rawgrim]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Strictly speaking, isn't that the case for every player character?

Not really. Since you (usually) get to create your very own unique one. This wasn`t the case with Hawke, where you had almost zero choices in the matter.

[badboy64]

Too small of a body to Hawk. Looks like a female though if you watch the HD version. Maybe it is Merrill.

[Rawgrim]

badboy64 wrote...

Too small of a body to Hawk. Looks like a female though if you watch the HD version. Maybe it is Merrill.

I was thinking it could be her as well. Or maybe Bethany.

[IanPolaris]

Rawgrim wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Strictly speaking, isn't that the case for every player character?

Not really. Since you (usually) get to create your very own unique one. This wasn`t the case with Hawke, where you had almost zero choices in the matter.

Indeed, IMHO Hawke was BW's failed attempt at making a "Shepard" for Dragon Age.

-Polaris

[BombThatDeadGuy]

Rawgrim wrote...

badboy64 wrote...

Too small of a body to Hawk. Looks like a female though if you watch the HD version. Maybe it is Merrill.

I was thinking it could be her as well. Or maybe Bethany.

As a fan of both it wouldn't bother me as much as the Hawke scenerio if it was Merrill or Bethany, though it could also say it was just a body with Varric simply being sad at all this crap that's going or Varric being sad his chest hair is covered up, there's no real identity on the body other than it's a small female apparantly.

Modifié par BombThatDeadGuy, 20 juin 2013 - 04:18 .

[FKA_Servo]

Possibly Isabela then? Considering how big she's been in the comics.

I certainly hope not though.

Modifié par TommyServo, 20 juin 2013 - 05:38 .

[Azaron Nightblade]

Anji Artemis wrote...

I hope not.


I guess that I'm the only one who doesn't hate Hawke. 

Nah, I don't hate him/her either - and neither do a lot of people that have posted on this topic and similar ones. 

[Sylvianus]

I don't hate Hawk. I don't really care about him . First he wasn't really mine to begin with. And it's really hard for me to like PC's who act and speak like fools, and don't care about what happen around them, except when their life or those of their family are in danger, always manipulated by everyone.

Hawk for three years, did absolutely nothing for Kirkwall while issues were raised between Mages and Templars. He left the city burn before attempting to extinguish the fire when it was too late. That's unacceptable.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 20 juin 2013 - 07:37 .

[Nole]

The problem with hawke is that he's not a godlike being like the rest of the Bioware protagonists. He's just a normal person.

[Sylvianus]

I don't give a damn about a normal person if he is dumb, selfish, powerless, hardly relevant to the plot. Yep.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 20 juin 2013 - 07:39 .

[Nole]

Sylvianus wrote...

I don't give a damn about a normal person if he is dumb, selfish, powerless, hardly relevant to the plot. Yep.

That's what i'm saying. The protagonist of the game can't be a normal person that makes mistakes. The protagonist has to be perfect, a godlike being, like Shepard.

Modifié par WittingEight65, 20 juin 2013 - 07:43 .

[Azaron Nightblade]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I don't give a damn about a normal person if he is dumb, selfish, powerless, hardly relevant to the plot. Yep.

That's what i'm saying. The protagonist of the game can't be a normal person that makes mistakes. The protagonist has to be perfect, a godlike being, like Shepard.

I think it's less about him being a normal guy, and more about him just standing around during some scenes while he had all the time in the world to stop the bad guy from brutally murdering someone right in front of him after delivering one hell of a monologue.
I know it's polite to let the villain monologue and all, but...
That being said, I did enjoy playing Hawke for the most part - some of the idiocies put aside.

[Huyna]

WittingEight65 wrote...



That's what i'm saying. The protagonist of the game can't be a normal person that makes mistakes. The protagonist has to be perfect, a godlike being, like Shepard.

Sheppard did not make mistakes?

[Nole]

Huyna wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...



That's what i'm saying. The protagonist of the game can't be a normal person that makes mistakes. The protagonist has to be perfect, a godlike being, like Shepard.

Sheppard did not make mistakes?

In ME1 and ME2, he was pretty much perfect. Just like the usual protagonist from Bioware games.

[Sylvianus]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I don't give a damn about a normal person if he is dumb, selfish, powerless, hardly relevant to the plot. Yep.

That's what i'm saying. The protagonist of the game can't be a normal person than makes mistakes. The protagonist has to be perfect, a godlike being, like Shepard.

Not really. This isn't about being a god, perfect, without mistakes.

And, I find  this " normal person " idea really stupid to be honest. We are talking about extraordinary events that could change the world. This isn't an ordinary poor guy, with no real intelligence and no real strenght, hardly relevant that will respond to changes and extraordinary events.

I always laugh when some people are saying, " but Hawk was a normal person " as if that was the best idea evar.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 20 juin 2013 - 07:54 .

[Nole]

Sylvianus wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I don't give a damn about a normal person if he is dumb, selfish, powerless, hardly relevant to the plot. Yep.

That's what i'm saying. The protagonist of the game can't be a normal person than makes mistakes. The protagonist has to be perfect, a godlike being, like Shepard.

Not really. This isn't about being a god, perfect, without mistakes.

And, I find  this " normal person " idea really stupid to be honest. We are talking about extraordinary events that could change the world. This isn't an ordinary poor guy, with no real intelligence and no real strenght, hardly relevant that will respond to changes and extraordinary events.

I always laugh when some people are saying, but Hawk was a normal person as if that was the best idea evar.

I'm actually saying that it isn't a good idea, precisely for what you said. The protagonist is supposed to be someone "special", the only one that can save the world and stuff.

[Ryzaki]

WittingEight65 wrote...

The problem with hawke is that he's not a godlike being like the rest of the Bioware protagonists. He's just a normal person.

Which wouldn't have been so bad if not for the prerelease crap leading many to believe he was a typical sue like most BW protags.

Alas marketing.