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[Capt. Obvious]

I think BioWare shouldn't ignore Loghain. Loghain was a very intriguing character and I'm not afraid to say that he was the best one in Dragon Age: Origins(or at least, one of the best). Since you can keep Loghain alive in Dragon Age: Origins, I was wondering of the devs could give an answer as to whether or not Loghain can appear in Dragon Age: Inquisition if you spare Loghain's life in your previous save file. Perhaps even come back as a companion? Maybe that last sentence is asking too much.

Discuss.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 17 juin 2013 - 12:58 .

[King Cousland]

The last sentence is definitely asking too much, but I wouldn't rule out an appearance if he was spared (though, I do think it somewhat unlikely).

Remember though that Loghain was relatively old in Origins (I'd guess at approaching his sixties, if he wasn't there already) and ten years have passed since then, how many years has he realistically got left?

[Capt. Obvious]

King Cousland wrote...

The last sentence is definitely asking too much, but I wouldn't rule out an appearance if he was spared (though, I do think it somewhat unlikely).

Remember though that Loghain was relatively old in Origins (I'd guess at approaching his sixties, if he wasn't there already) and ten years have passed since then, how many years has he realistically got left?

Twenty years due to the Joining ceremony. Besides, while he might not be able to fight, he can still command troops of the Grey Wardens.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 16 juin 2013 - 11:23 .

[SamFlagg]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

The last sentence is definitely asking too much, but I wouldn't rule out an appearance if he was spared (though, I do think it somewhat unlikely).

Remember though that Loghain was relatively old in Origins (I'd guess at approaching his sixties, if he wasn't there already) and ten years have passed since then, how many years has he realistically got left?

Twenty years due to the Joining ceremony. Besides, while he might not be able to fight, he can still command troops of the Grey Wardens.

I was under the impression that the joining started a timer till you lost it due to dark spawn blood, if your old age timer is almost already up I don't think it gives you extra years.

[Asdrubael Vect]

he was at least 50 year old, with taint he would die after 10 years....he maybe can survive as many wardens if you left Aventus to do his blood magic experiments

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 16 juin 2013 - 11:29 .

[Capt. Obvious]

SamFlagg wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

The last sentence is definitely asking too much, but I wouldn't rule out an appearance if he was spared (though, I do think it somewhat unlikely).

Remember though that Loghain was relatively old in Origins (I'd guess at approaching his sixties, if he wasn't there already) and ten years have passed since then, how many years has he realistically got left?

Twenty years due to the Joining ceremony. Besides, while he might not be able to fight, he can still command troops of the Grey Wardens.

I was under the impression that the joining started a timer till you lost it due to dark spawn blood, if your old age timer is almost already up I don't think it gives you extra years.

Really? I thought that it was said that the Joining can actually lengthen your time-span, depending on the age of the Warden when he took the Joining. If I'm correct, doesn't the Joining also stregthen a Warden?

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 16 juin 2013 - 11:33 .

[Northern Sun]

If he's alive, I'd expect him to be sitting on top of whatever Warden base in Orlais he's stationed at, watching with satisfaction as the Orlesians kill each other while drinking a good Ferelden ale.

[Capt. Obvious]

Northern Sun wrote...

If he's alive, I'd expect him to be sitting on top of whatever Warden base in Orlais he's stationed at, watching with satisfaction as the Orlesians kill each other while drinking a good Ferelden ale.

I'd expect that, if the Grey Wardens are truly involved in the war, he'll be involved in actually killing Orlesians.

[King Cousland]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

SamFlagg wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

The last sentence is definitely asking too much, but I wouldn't rule out an appearance if he was spared (though, I do think it somewhat unlikely).

Remember though that Loghain was relatively old in Origins (I'd guess at approaching his sixties, if he wasn't there already) and ten years have passed since then, how many years has he realistically got left?

Twenty years due to the Joining ceremony. Besides, while he might not be able to fight, he can still command troops of the Grey Wardens.

I was under the impression that the joining started a timer till you lost it due to dark spawn blood, if your old age timer is almost already up I don't think it gives you extra years.

Really? I thought that it was said that the Joining can actually lengthen your time-span, depending on the age of the Warden when he took the Joining. If I'm correct, doesn't the Joining also stregthen a Warden?

The Joining does indeed strengthen a Warden in certain ways, but it doesn't add an extra thirty years to their life. They can still die naturally of old age and (presumably) die of sickness as well. 

It should also be noted that David Gaider has said that he regrets putting the thirty year span in dialogue since he now believes it's too long; the official line seems to be thirty years maximum. 

Modifié par King Cousland, 16 juin 2013 - 11:49 .

[Capt. Obvious]

King Cousland wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

SamFlagg wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

The last sentence is definitely asking too much, but I wouldn't rule out an appearance if he was spared (though, I do think it somewhat unlikely).

Remember though that Loghain was relatively old in Origins (I'd guess at approaching his sixties, if he wasn't there already) and ten years have passed since then, how many years has he realistically got left?

Twenty years due to the Joining ceremony. Besides, while he might not be able to fight, he can still command troops of the Grey Wardens.

I was under the impression that the joining started a timer till you lost it due to dark spawn blood, if your old age timer is almost already up I don't think it gives you extra years.

Really? I thought that it was said that the Joining can actually lengthen your time-span, depending on the age of the Warden when he took the Joining. If I'm correct, doesn't the Joining also stregthen a Warden?

The Joining does indeed strengthen a Warden in certain ways, but it doesn't add an extra thirty years to their life. They can still die naturally of old age and (presumably) die of sickness as well. 

It should also be noted that David Gaider has said that he regrets putting the thirty year span in dialogue since he now believes it's too long; the official line seems to be thirty years maximum. 

Still, only ten years have passed, so Loghain appearing in Dragon Age 3: Inquisition isn't too much of a stretch.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 17 juin 2013 - 01:00 .

[ParatrooperSean]

I warmed up to Loghain quite a bit as a result of debating him on DAO forum. At first my attitude toward him was he's an unscrupulous bastard deserving nothing but death.

After reading things from the pro-Loghain perspective, I loosened my harsh opinion of him. Now I see him more as a "Renegade Shepherd." Willing to do whatever it takes to win, no matter how harsh.

I still don't have a high opinion of him, but now I plan on letting him live so Alistair and Anora can rule together.

[Sanunes]

I highly doubt Lohgain would be a companion and his return I think would rely upon the metrics BioWare got from the game for his survival into future games requires two things to happen 1) he is spared and 2) he doesn't die from the Arch Demon's death. I know Lohgain has died in every game I have played in Dragon Age: Origins from either my hand, Alistair's hand, or the Arch Demon's death.

[Cutlass Jack]

He was a little on the dead side in many games, so I doubt they'd use him in any major capacity. But I wouldn't be surprised at a cameo that could feature him or someone else if he's dead.

[Capt. Obvious]

Sanunes wrote...

I highly doubt Lohgain would be a companion and his return I think would rely upon the metrics BioWare got from the game for his survival into future games requires two things to happen 1) he is spared and 2) he doesn't die from the Arch Demon's death. I know Lohgain has died in every game I have played in Dragon Age: Origins from either my hand, Alistair's hand, or the Arch Demon's death.

The devs said that they aren't going to shoehorn the old god baby into DA3 and not many people chose that ending, so it would make sense if Loghain did appear for the people that spared him the first game. Its not THAT much of a stretch.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 17 juin 2013 - 01:00 .

[Mikoto8472]

Interesting idea, I have no objections but I always either killed Loghain or fed him to the Archdemon.

[Nightwing99]

I'm sorry, but the idea of any one wants to keep this man alive is silly what he almost did a hundred times worse than what Anders did in Dragon Age 2

if his plan at Ostagar was successful and all the Grey Warden get Killed and him Stoping others Grey Warden from crossing the border ferelden Will be destroyed with no chance of survival

[Capt. Obvious]

Nightwing99 wrote...

I'm sorry, but the idea of any one wants to keep this man alive is silly what he almost did a hundred times worse than what Anders did in Dragon Age 2

if his plan at Ostagar was successful and all the Grey Warden get Killed and him Stoping others Grey Warden from crossing the border ferelden Will be destroyed with no chance of survival

Anders started a war that could tear Thedas apart. Loghain was also wise to retreat as the Battle at Ostagar couldn't be won.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 17 juin 2013 - 01:01 .

[Capt. Obvious]

simfamSP wrote...

Nightwing99 wrote...

I'm sorry, but the idea of any one wants to keep this man alive is silly what he almost did a hundred times worse than what Anders did in Dragon Age 2

if his plan at Ostagar was successful and all the Grey Warden get Killed and him Stoping others Grey Warden from crossing the border ferelden Will be destroyed with no chance of survival

And Jaime Lannister cripples a young boy; it still doesn't mean I hate him. Morally grey characters are usually the best, and that's why Loghain is one of the best characters BioWare has ever written, and I guess it's the reason why I love him.

Ah, same here. Plus, I never really liked Alistair. He's always been pretty whiney.

[Nightwing99]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Nightwing99 wrote...

I'm sorry, but the idea of any one wants to keep this man alive is silly what he almost did a hundred times worse than what Anders did in Dragon Age 2

if his plan at Ostagar was successful and all the Grey Warden get Killed and him Stoping others Grey Warden from crossing the border ferelden Will be destroyed with no chance of survival

Anders started a war that could tear Thedas apart. Lohgain was also wise to retreat as the Battle at Ostagar couldn't be won.

Without the Wardens [/i] the war itself can not be won

[Capt. Obvious]

simfamSP wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Nightwing99 wrote...

I'm sorry, but the idea of any one wants to keep this man alive is silly what he almost did a hundred times worse than what Anders did in Dragon Age 2

if his plan at Ostagar was successful and all the Grey Warden get Killed and him Stoping others Grey Warden from crossing the border ferelden Will be destroyed with no chance of survival

Anders started a war that could tear Thedas apart. Loghain was also wise to retreat as the Battle at Ostagar couldn't be won.

True. But he did **** up majorly when trying to unite people under his banner. The plan and intentions were sound though. Problem was, no one really knew how to kill the Archdemon properly.

Concurred. Lohgain was wise to retreat from Ostagar but what he did afterwards was pretty bad.

Of course, that just makes me like his character all the more.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 17 juin 2013 - 01:02 .

[Capt. Obvious]

Nightwing99 wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Nightwing99 wrote...

I'm sorry, but the idea of any one wants to keep this man alive is silly what he almost did a hundred times worse than what Anders did in Dragon Age 2

if his plan at Ostagar was successful and all the Grey Warden get Killed and him Stoping others Grey Warden from crossing the border ferelden Will be destroyed with no chance of survival

Anders started a war that could tear Thedas apart. Lohgain was also wise to retreat as the Battle at Ostagar couldn't be won.

Without the Wardens [/i] the war itself can not be won

Certainly, however its not like the Warden could win the Battle of Ostagar. The Battle would be lost with or without Loghain's forces joining Cailan when the signal was given.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 17 juin 2013 - 01:02 .