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[Renwillow]

I also saved him. Then he went and killed himself fighting the archdemon.

[Captain Obvious]

SeismicGravy wrote...

How many people actually saved him anyway? I make a point of killing him as soon as I can (With the exception of 1 playthough, when I kept him alive by accident).

Alistair is a fan-favorite while Loghain is  a pretty controversial character. So, Loghain has probably been killed off in a lot of playthroughs. After all, people are more likely to listen to Alistair the fan-favorite(even though he's a ****) than Loghain the controversial character. Since the fan-favorite is against the idea of Loghain surviving the Landsmeet and even threatens to leave, well, it's pretty obvious that most players stuck with beheading Loghain. Even if they didn't, they probably sacfificed Loghain. After all, Loghain was villified a lot in the game and unless you recruited him into the Grey Wardens and got to know him and understand his reasons for doing what he did, he ends up as dead either way(for most players anyway).

I still hope BioWare takes into account the players that kept Loghain alive, even if he isn't a popular character. Loghain's a deep character. It would be a pity if the decision of keeping him and alive and the subsequent decision of NOT sacrificing him to the Archdemon were disregarded or at least not acknowledged. 

Modifié par Cap. Obvious, 02 septembre 2013 - 02:02 .

[Angrywolves]

uh no.
Next.

[Star fury]

He's dead, Jim. Your Captain Obvious.

[Captain Obvious]

kiprakoyoh wrote...

BS, cannibul, mini-tor, sack o' short fuses... Suck-it vacuus wast of forlorn postage.

...What?

[Phate Phoenix]

Man, I hope he shows up. I saved Loghain more often than not. In fact, for the runs I'm preparing for DAI, he lives in half of them. I can honestly say he's my favorite of all the companions, just because of how interesting his character is. I'll be disappointed if we don't see a bit of him, since we're playing in Orlais and that's where he was supposed to be.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Cap. Obvious wrote...

kiprakoyoh wrote...

BS, cannibul, mini-tor, sack o' short fuses... Suck-it vacuus wast of forlorn postage.

...What?

Maybe their universal translator is broken?

Anyway, I'd love to see some reference to Loghain in DAI, like his cameo in Awakening. He's dead in most of my world states - either via the Archdemon or through a tragic accident involving Alistair and a big sword - but it would be nice to see him again one more time. He's one of the most interesting characters in the franchise. (And I say that as someone who thinks he thoroughly deserved that decapitation.)

[Captain Obvious]

Andrastee wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

kiprakoyoh wrote...

BS, cannibul, mini-tor, sack o' short fuses... Suck-it vacuus wast of forlorn postage.

...What?

Maybe their universal translator is broken?

Anyway, I'd love to see some reference to Loghain in DAI, like his cameo in Awakening. He's dead in most of my world states - either via the Archdemon or through a tragic accident involving Alistair and a big sword - but it would be nice to see him again one more time. He's one of the most interesting characters in the franchise. (And I say that as someone who thinks he thoroughly deserved that decapitation.)

He's much better than that whiney **** Alistair, that's for sure.

[Captain Obvious]

kiprakoyoh wrote...

Loghain returns as a bright and perky advocate of the hero myth, having been healed by a dwarf-mage, to crush the insolent and lost chantry.

At this point, with Leliana coming back despite your decision to kill her in DA:O, anything is possible.

Modifié par Cap. Obvious, 09 septembre 2013 - 10:19 .

[ShadyKat]

Considering my Warden decapitated him, kinda doubt he will return.

[Angrywolves]

I never have saved Loghain and never will.

[In Exile]

Cap. Obvious wrote...
Alistair is a fan-favorite while Loghain is  a pretty controversial character. So, Loghain has probably been killed off in a lot of playthroughs. After all, people are more likely to listen to Alistair the fan-favorite(even though he's a ****) than Loghain the controversial character. Since the fan-favorite is against the idea of Loghain surviving the Landsmeet and even threatens to leave, well, it's pretty obvious that most players stuck with beheading Loghain. Even if they didn't, they probably sacfificed Loghain. After all, Loghain was villified a lot in the game and unless you recruited him into the Grey Wardens and got to know him and understand his reasons for doing what he did, he ends up as dead either way(for most players anyway).

I still hope BioWare takes into account the players that kept Loghain alive, even if he isn't a popular character. Loghain's a deep character. It would be a pity if the decision of keeping him and alive and the subsequent decision of NOT sacrificing him to the Archdemon were disregarded or at least not acknowledged. 

Loghain is probably the dullest knife in the drawer, but I think that with the Dragon Age Keep, there's a lot more reason to have him alive. While there's no reason to keep him alive on his own merits, and making Alistair happy to up his morale by letting him shorten Loghain by a head is probably the most effective use he could be put too, I also think that Loghain is an interesting character and that the storyline of DAI would be much more interesting with as a troubled character like him around Ferelden. 

[duckley]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Secretlyapotato]

I doubt he'll ever appear again. He could barely survive Origins, and even if he did the taint is suppose to kill him faster due to his age.

[Spectre slayer]

I kill him in a majority of my playthroughs but have spared him a few times and as for him appearing IF you spared him that depends on how long his body can withstand the taint, since it's unknown how long he survied for since it all it said was several years so he could be dead already.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 09 septembre 2013 - 11:27 .

[sandalisthemaker]

Cap. Obvious wrote...
He's much better than that whiney **** Alistair, that's for sure.

No.

Loghain is nothing more than a blood smear on Anora's face.

And even if you did spare him,  he'd be far too old to be a viable companion. The Joining doesn't add 30 years to one's lifespan.

[Hellion Rex]

I killed him. He was a traitor to his king, good intentions be d*mned. AND, he got Duncan killed. That last part alone had me howling for his blood.

[Lokiwithrope]

If he shows up, he better have a beard. The man just doesn't look right without one.

[The Six Path of Pain]

I like many other people killed him. So this is a "meh" for me anyways.

[Captain Obvious]

In Exile wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...
Alistair is a fan-favorite while Loghain is  a pretty controversial character. So, Loghain has probably been killed off in a lot of playthroughs. After all, people are more likely to listen to Alistair the fan-favorite(even though he's a ****) than Loghain the controversial character. Since the fan-favorite is against the idea of Loghain surviving the Landsmeet and even threatens to leave, well, it's pretty obvious that most players stuck with beheading Loghain. Even if they didn't, they probably sacfificed Loghain. After all, Loghain was villified a lot in the game and unless you recruited him into the Grey Wardens and got to know him and understand his reasons for doing what he did, he ends up as dead either way(for most players anyway).

I still hope BioWare takes into account the players that kept Loghain alive, even if he isn't a popular character. Loghain's a deep character. It would be a pity if the decision of keeping him and alive and the subsequent decision of NOT sacrificing him to the Archdemon were disregarded or at least not acknowledged. 

Loghain is probably the dullest knife in the drawer, but I think that with the Dragon Age Keep, there's a lot more reason to have him alive. While there's no reason to keep him alive on his own merits, and making Alistair happy to up his morale by letting him shorten Loghain by a head is probably the most effective use he could be put too, I also think that Loghain is an interesting character and that the storyline of DAI would be much more interesting with as a troubled character like him around Ferelden. 

I don't understand what you mean by Loghain being "probably the dullest knife in the drawer" but I do agree completely that he is an interesting character and that the storyline in DAI would be more interesting if he were present.

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...
He's much better than that whiney **** Alistair, that's for sure.

No.

Loghain is nothing more than a blood smear on Anora's face.

And even if you did spare him,  he'd be far too old to be a viable companion. The Joining doesn't add 30 years to one's lifespan.

Loghain is a very intriguing character, certainly more deep than Alistair, who is incredibly exasperating. I don't care if Loghain did some questionable things, what matters is that he's a great character. I value sophistication in a fictional character than whether or not that character is morally good or is a jokester(as was the case with Alistair).

Modifié par Cap. Obvious, 10 septembre 2013 - 01:27 .

[In Exile]

Cap. Obvious wrote...
I don't understand what you mean by Loghain being "probably the dullest knife in the drawer" but I do agree completely that he is an interesting character and that the storyline in DAI would be more interesting if he were present.

I mean that if we play his character straight - someone who wasn't completely power-hungry from the start and didn't conspire with Arl Howe from quite early on to knock off Cailan, making him more or less an irredeemable villain - then Loghain essentially blunders from idiot move to idiot move. 

The only display of tactics we see is pretty unimpressive, the political manuevering we see is kind of comically self-destructive, and the theories floating about that he was being played like a fiddle by Howe make him look generally inept. 

On the other hand, if we assume him and Howe were in it from the start we can sidestep the incompetence problem, but then we run into the iredeemably evil problem (like Howe himself).