Aller au contenu

Photo

Why do people here hate pugs?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
169 réponses à ce sujet

#51
RakeWorm

RakeWorm
  • Members
  • 171 messages
I don't hate hate them. My problem is that my skill level is such that I can only clutch the last few waves on Gold with certain classes. So if I pug with a kit I'm not particularly used to, we might fail on wave 10. Thus wasting a whole ton of time, since pug matches are typically long.

And then after this happens, you hear a pug say "Sweet, we still got a bunch of cash from this. Good game guys."

...

If my skill level were at the point that I could solo the last few waves of Gold with any kit I bring in, I probably wouldn't mind pugs whatsoever. But I don't want to limit myself to pugging with the half dozen or so kits I know really well.

#52
Supreme Leech

Supreme Leech
  • Members
  • 3 641 messages
I wish people would just stick to the difficulty level at which they are most comfortable. That's what's really ruining pugs - people playing at 2 difficulties above their comfort zone.

#53
cormacn

cormacn
  • Members
  • 77 messages
I seem to have good luck with PuGs. 95% of the time we extract on Gold with at least 3 players scoring >100k, reviving, contributing to objectives etc.

Never quite sure what the fuss about them on here is all about.

#54
DragonRacer

DragonRacer
  • Members
  • 10 039 messages

TMB903 wrote...

I don't. I actually enjoy PUGs more than a lobby full of friends. I've met a lot of cool people PUGing and don't regret it one bit.


This. ^^^

#55
Supreme Leech

Supreme Leech
  • Members
  • 3 641 messages
There's a huge, massive difference between platinum pugs and gold pugs. People I find in gold pugs tend to be more skilled than the platinum pug population, gold pugs aren't all too bad. Platinum pugs on the other hand are extremely bad in my experience, lots of people quitting early on, lots of people not using any equipment, not even a gear bonus, not even equipping any weapon mods. Very rare to find a decent platinum team, very rare.

#56
Jeremiah12LGeek

Jeremiah12LGeek
  • Members
  • 23 881 messages

XFG-65 wrote...

how can i attach a picture which i have saved on my hard drive?


You can upload it to a "Photo Album" on BSN and link the photo from there (keep the file size small, if you go this route.) Otherwise, you'll have to use Flickr or Photobucket or something like that.

#57
Aryantes

Aryantes
  • Members
  • 30 messages
I dunno, I'm a 100% platinum pugger. Usually off host. (seems easier than hosting)

I can clutch occasionally, but don't think I could solo an entire game. I think success rate is pretty high, definitely over 90%.

Maybe platinum pug has less lame people than gold/silver pugs, except when you join a game in progress, fail, and notice later that some people are new people with N7 score of 25.

Although, I do resort to playing GI or TGI or GT often to make sure I can make up for a noob being in the game..

#58
Computron2000

Computron2000
  • Members
  • 4 983 messages

erezike wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

erezike wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Talks about pugs, then says it needs at least 2 decent players.

You make a LOT of sense.


It may take you a while, but hopefully you will get there.

 

Also you should not talk about gold with your 140 hours of gameplay and mostly silver. You should not talk about Destroyers being sucky too. 


I like it how you think you know me. :-)
I spend my time on an equal measure between silver and gold.
I do gold for the credits and silver for the fun. played my share of plats but never been a fan, not enough mooks to headshot.


No, i don't see it.

You have no platinum waves done at all.

You have 9 gold extractions.

From the wave distribution, you failed to extract at least 14 times out of at least 23 gold games

This included trying once and fail to extract on gold
i) Rio
ii) Goddess
iii) Jade
iv) Condor
v) Glacier

You have never done gold since the challenge system on the maps
i) London
ii) Vancouver
iii) Dagger

Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that

#59
mumba

mumba
  • Members
  • 4 997 messages
cuz dey da ugliest dog

#60
Beerfish

Beerfish
  • Members
  • 23 867 messages

XFG-65 wrote...

I wish people would just stick to the difficulty level at which they are most comfortable. That's what's really ruining pugs - people playing at 2 difficulties above their comfort zone.


Silver lobby's are actually better than gold lobbies it seems.  After I recently promoted and went back to silver for some games, the players were better and better equipped on the whole on silver.

#61
Beerfish

Beerfish
  • Members
  • 23 867 messages

Computron2000 wrote...



Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.

#62
Erez Kristal

Erez Kristal
  • Members
  • 1 656 messages

Beerfish wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...



Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.


Dont worry, hes just trying to wave his e-peen.
For each his fun.

#63
Computron2000

Computron2000
  • Members
  • 4 983 messages

Beerfish wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...
Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.


If he is a regular carrier (as the only carrier or as a duo carrier) on silver pugs, his average will be around 80k at least (regular last man carriers will be 90k+), If he is a regular carrier on gold, he'll be looking at 120k at least. If he does not regularly carry, then of course if failing is normal for him, getting dragged by bad pugs won't be a problem

#64
Computron2000

Computron2000
  • Members
  • 4 983 messages

erezike wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...
Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.


Dont worry, hes just trying to wave his e-peen.
For each his fun.


I always like showing the lies of people who are legends in their own mind. Numbers are always good to show up the falsehoods from the truth and the truth seems to hurt you. As of now, you're lies are pretty much obvious. Done platinum but don't like it? Sure if we are counting dying on wave 1 :)

#65
Xxx G O A T S xxX

Xxx G O A T S xxX
  • Members
  • 61 messages

poiuasd wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Kalas Magnus wrote...

Cuz they suck

Sure we extract
But the score is

220k
40k
10k
2k

 

Something like that. 

Or 220k 
50k 
Rage quit 
Rage quit

Image IPB

The Pyjaks dont deserve credits bc they will only spend it on cheap extranet to complain about Krogan being more OP than them

Nice 10 headshots medal scrub.



Owned.  :ph34r:

#66
SilentStep79

SilentStep79
  • Members
  • 3 702 messages
at this point, the only thing i want them to do is use a medigel occasionally.
and even that seems too much to ask lately...

#67
capn233

capn233
  • Members
  • 17 291 messages

phunkeybuddha wrote...

Image IPB

ME3 pugs - BSN. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.:mellow:

FIFY :)

#68
Erez Kristal

Erez Kristal
  • Members
  • 1 656 messages

Computron2000 wrote...

erezike wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...
Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.


Dont worry, hes just trying to wave his e-peen.
For each his fun.


I always like showing the lies of people who are legends in their own mind. Numbers are always good to show up the falsehoods from the truth and the truth seems to hurt you. As of now, you're lies are pretty much obvious. Done platinum but don't like it? Sure if we are counting dying on wave 1 :)


What is your problem really? :-) Why so bitter?
We all come here for a reason, me to escape my studies for some time. you why do you come here all angry and such. why do you persume everything which is being told to you is a lie. 
Seriously its just a game. its not like we are competing here, its just a coop game. there are no prizes to be won. no one to yell your name when you enter the room. just a bloody game played for fun.

If someone said they have done something, there is a good reason to think they had. there is no incentive to lie on the fourms... 

Modifié par erezike, 17 juin 2013 - 02:26 .


#69
Beerfish

Beerfish
  • Members
  • 23 867 messages

Computron2000 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...
Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.


If he is a regular carrier (as the only carrier or as a duo carrier) on silver pugs, his average will be around 80k at least (regular last man carriers will be 90k+), If he is a regular carrier on gold, he'll be looking at 120k at least. If he does not regularly carry, then of course if failing is normal for him, getting dragged by bad pugs won't be a problem


I don't argue with the other points you made in that thread but avg per game is not a good indicator.  Since starting to play this game I have played a TON of one or two wave bronze matches just to test out some gun or feature etc.

#70
Computron2000

Computron2000
  • Members
  • 4 983 messages

erezike wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

erezike wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...
Your average score per game is ~58k which is not particularly strong on silver and poor for gold

If the excuse is that you stopped playing before challenges were implemented and before that was steam rolling everything, the average score and game fail percentage don't show that


Average score per game is a pretty meaningless stat in a lot of cases.


Dont worry, hes just trying to wave his e-peen.
For each his fun.


I always like showing the lies of people who are legends in their own mind. Numbers are always good to show up the falsehoods from the truth and the truth seems to hurt you. As of now, you're lies are pretty much obvious. Done platinum but don't like it? Sure if we are counting dying on wave 1 :)


What is your problem really? :-) Why so bitter?


Sad to say, i'm old enough that your rather obvious attempt to provoke doesn't work. However it does show 1 thing. Your ego really took a hit enough to try and make me mad :P. Sometimes though, i wish i was as young as you to think such methods would work

#71
Supreme Leech

Supreme Leech
  • Members
  • 3 641 messages
Scoring top doesn't necessarily mean you carried. It doesn't automatically mean everyone else played badly. A lot of people seem to be missing this point.

#72
DragonRacer

DragonRacer
  • Members
  • 10 039 messages

XFG-65 wrote...

Scoring top doesn't necessarily mean you carried. It doesn't automatically mean everyone else played badly. A lot of people seem to be missing this point.


An incredibly true and valid point that is, sadly, often missed on these forums.

#73
Computron2000

Computron2000
  • Members
  • 4 983 messages

Beerfish wrote...
I don't argue with the other points you made in that thread but avg per game is not a good indicator.  Since starting to play this game I have played a TON of one or two wave bronze matches just to test out some gun or feature etc.


None of thse are critical indicators. However all of them are pieces to form a single picture and that picture discounts any attempt to make up excuses on him steam rolling everything before the challenge system was implemented. 

Now, no way did he do much bronze as his number of bronze waves mostly equal his silver waves so that leaves nearly undiluted silver and gold. Since he feels that 2 people can finish the match easily, then the implication is that he is one of these 2 people. However his average score discounts him as being am actual carrier (remember undiluted silver and gold) which pretty much destroys the lie. See for yourself

http://social.biowar...ike&platform=pc

#74
Erez Kristal

Erez Kristal
  • Members
  • 1 656 messages

Computron2000 wrote...

. Your ego really took a hit enough to try and make me mad :P. Sometimes though, i wish i was as young as you to think such methods would work


There was nothing to harm my ego, its just a game and i stand behind my claims and i am happy of my level of gameplay.

The only thing that fouled my mood was the incredible amount of personal negativity i encountred on this forum.
Part of the blame is for myself for the choice of words which may have enticed such actions, from the easily arroused crowd.


The intention of this thread wasnt to open a personal flaming debate.
And yes two people (Krogan more so than others) can carry a match as long as they stay away from sync kills

Modifié par erezike, 17 juin 2013 - 02:46 .


#75
Supreme Leech

Supreme Leech
  • Members
  • 3 641 messages

erezike wrote...

The only thing that fouled my mood was the incredible amount of personal negativity i encountred on this forum.
Part of the blame is for myself for the choose of words which may have enticed such actions, from the easily arroused crowd.


Yeah, I feel that. I was shocked at first. But now you know what you're dealing with.