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[samulin85]

 







 Hello everybody , 


I started playing dragon age 2 again (PS3), I have, finnsihed all my quests/ side quest/ premium content etc... 


on level hard... now about to head into the deep roads and finnish act1 ...


I'm rolling with a three mage + varrick party... so far no casualties and only 1 potion used...


How ever I was wondering if some of you have same tips for for going into the deep roads and for after...

or comments on my buidls/tactics. It would be much appreciated !











Current party buids are:




Hawke: Mage     Level 11




strength 10


dex 10


magic 48


cun 11


will 14


con 11








Abilities 


wintersgrasp + upgrade


cone of cold


heal


heroic aura + upgrade 


haste + upgrade


telekinetic burst


pull of the abyss


gravitic ring


fist of the maker




Tactics :


Self: any = atctivate heroic aura


self: at least one enemy is alive = haste


self: health <25% = heal


enemy: target rank is Elite or higher = winter's grasp


enemy: clustered with at least three enemies = pull of the abyss


enemy: clustered with at least three enemies = gravictic ring






Inventory


Staff of the prima order 
http://dragonage.wik...he_Primal_Order


the helm of marterel


the gloves of the winter crossing


robes of the pretender + rune of fortune


orlesian silk boots 


the irons


arlathan focusing crystal


ring of the minor canrips


ring of the magister


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Anders level 11


10 strength 

10 dex

30 magic

11 cunning

27 willpower

10 con


Abillaties 

winters grasp


all in the creation tree incl. upgrades

eye to eye



Tactics 


self: any = activate heroic aura

enemy: at least on is alive = haste

enemy clustered with at least three enemies = glyph of paralysis

ally: health < 50% = heal

self : <50 = heal

enemy: any winters grasp

hawke: being attacked by ranged attack = haste

self: surrounded by at least two enemies  =glyph of repulsion

self: health <50% = deactivate heroic aura

self: health >50% = activate heroic aura

enemy: target rank normal or higher = glyph of paralysis



Inventory

chanter's staff

Renegade's coat

visionary's girdle

ring of he awakened

gallows slave finger-cuffs 2x


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Merril level 11



strenght 15

dex 16

mag 30

cun 16

will 18

con 35




Abilties 

winters grasp

rock armor

chain lightning + upgrade

tempest + upgrade

solidarity 

blood of the first

wounds of the past

wrath of the elven + upgrade

ensare



Tactics 

enemy: clustered with at least three enemies = chain lightning 

enemy: at least one enemy is alive = activate: rock armor

enemy: clustured with at least four enemies = tempest

enemy: at least one enemy is alive = activate wrath of the elven

self: surrounded by at least two enemies = ensare

enemy: traget rank is elite or higher = winters grasp

enemy: using magic attack = wounds of the past

ally: being attacked by meele or magic attack = wounds of the past

self: health >50% = activate blood of the first

self: health < 50% = deactivate blood of the first

enemy: any = winters grasp



Inventory

Malcomlm's Honor

Vestments of the first

sturdy belt

sylaise's favor

air of confidence

the inner eye

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Varrick Level 11




strength 12

dex 28

magic 11

cunning 11

will 12

con 13



Abilities 



bursting arrow + upgrade

pinning shot + upgrade

acher's lance

hail of arrows + upgrade

speed

blindside

authorized biograper

rhyming triplet

bianca's song




tactics


enemy: at least one is alive = activate speed

self: any = activate bianca's song

enemy: target rank is elite or higher = pinning shot

enemy: BRITTLE = acher's lance

enemy: clustreded with at least four enemies = hail of arrows

anders" being attacked by ranger or magic attack = bursting arrow

hawke: being attaked by melee attack = rhyming triplet



Inventory


Bianca

Varrick's tailored leahter duster + act1 upgrade

the refined gentleman's sash

eye of the bearder dragon

band of the stolen shadows 

the ring of whispers




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Ps I've got all dlc incl... inventory packs...


2 runes of fortune used...

1 on hawke's staff and 1 on varrick's duster...




Thank you so much and the game/series is the best!


Sam

[Ferretinabun]

Glad you're enjoying the game.

First point - your tactics are a little bit of a mess. Suicidalbaby did a very good guide to DA2's tactics. Well worth a read if you want optimal efficiency (which, let's face it, can make the difference between your companions being absolute hinderances and fight practically winning themselves).

http://social.biowar...index/6985076/1

The other thing to note is party composition. You're a full-range party, which is great, so if this is your usual party setup, you should really consider some nice devastating AOE spells, such as Fireball and Firestorm which can be such a pain for your melee fighters. Especially as you've (wisely) chosen Force Mage as your first spec and thus have excellent crowd control.

In fact, with Anders maxed out on the Creation tree, I'd say you have too much crowd control. That's both you and him dedicated to healing and cc in a game where damage is king. If you don't mind respec-ing I'd at least take his glyphs off him and give him some heavy firepower instead. Offence is the best defence in this game.

[cJohnOne]

Heh, You're doing great. You must play better than I do. I never got use to using gravitic ring and pull of the abyss etc.

Tells us how you did against the various obstacles in the deep roads. That would be interesting with your 3 mage and varric party.

[SuicidalBaby]

Merril level 11

Abilties
winters grasp
rock armor
chain lightning + upgrade
tempest + upgrade
solidarity
blood of the first
wounds of the past
wrath of the elven + upgrade
ensare



Tactics 

enemy: clustered with at least three enemies = chain lightning
enemy: at least one enemy is alive = activate: rock armor
enemy: clustured with at least four enemies = tempest
enemy: at least one enemy is alive = activate wrath of the elven
self: surrounded by at least two enemies = ensare
enemy: traget rank is elite or higher = winters grasp
enemy: using magic attack = wounds of the past
ally: being attacked by meele or magic attack = wounds of the past
self: health >50% = activate blood of the first
self: health < 50% = deactivate blood of the first
enemy: any = winters grasp

the order of your tactics should be based on importance of what needs to happen 1st in any situation.  Survival is always paramount.  Without deactivate Blood of the First in the 1st spot she could be doing several actions when she would need healing from an outside source, wasting the heal in the process.  It needs to be priority.  Stone fist is a better utility choice than rock armor, especially early game.

self: health < 50% = deactivate blood of the first
self: Hp <50%: Health Poultice
enemy: using magic attack: Stone Fist
enemy: elite or higher: winters grasp
enemy: clustered with at least three enemies = chain lightning
self: mana <25%: use current condition for next tactic
self: health >50% : activate blood of the first
self: surrounded by 2 or more enemies: activate wrath of the elven
self: surrounded by at least two enemies = ensare
enemy: clustured with at least four enemies = tempest
self: at least one enemy alive: skip tactics
self: any: Deactivate Blood of the First

check out the tactics guide.

[samulin85]

 Hi Guys,
Thanks for your replies.
Well I made it trough the deep roads with my 3 mage + varrick party...
Suffered no damage what so ever untill the rock wraith ... 
I did end up respecing before entering the depths of the deep roads here's what I used..
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/305/index/7126577/1   (I copied bith specs and tacts )

I did have to improvise a little bit with the attributes/talents..
since I was only level 12 upon entering and 13 upon exiting ...

The "set party to aggressive" worked great, the shades, ogers you name it did'nt stand a chance even the dragon was not much of an challange using this set-up...

How ever this set-up proved to be less of ideal when facing the rock wraith... after a number of tries I decided to load a previous save just before leaving the camp (post fidinf the dwarf son) adding a rune of fire to my staff

moving arround some of my party's tactics... for example : enemy: health <90 use ... / attack ... and mana level < than x use lyrium potion ... and I had to monitor the health of both the party and my self...  3 times fire storm + gravtic ring have proven to by my best friend and ally in this fight... might add cone of cold and winters grasp were quite useful aswell....  Also, I bought all of the health + lyrium potions form the dwarf in camp.. something arround 2/3 per item...

After doing this I cleared the room and killed the rock wraith on my first try...  I know my hwake build is not Ideal yet since I haven't unlocked the bloodmage three yet, but I was already enough to get me through the deep roads...

for the part untill the rock wraight, if you use "move to position / hold " efficient you should be fine and free of any serious danger but enough action to keep it fun... 

If any of you have some questions on any particular parts of the level/battles feel free to ask...

+ I did use the dog for taking at some point just not in the fight with the rock wraith... focus on fire + ice crowd control and areas of effect spells... once you do that the boss itself is not too much of a problem... just make sure to move and monitor... no party members died during my run through the deep roads...



Now on to act 2



Any tips feel free to reply 


Any questions / comments feel free to do the same...


Thanks and keep up the good work guys, cool to see everbody is/was (since the games has been out for a number of years) helping eachother , this forum a welcome addition to the game ! 



ps also a massive thank you for you build / tactics replies... but after seeing the link a mentioned earlier and the youtube clips of the ; Team Glass Cannon by Sir Arelex and givin the fact that's exactly my approach of the game raising h*ll with a full ranged party MAGES in particular , I decided to go with his post patch 1.02 1.03 set-up

p.s my own set-up worked fine aswell just decided to load an old save respec and build for post deep roads fun aswell...



Thanks ,


Sam

[samulin85]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/305/index/7126577/1 

[TravisB]

Modifié par TravisB, 01 juillet 2013 - 01:20 .

[TravisB]

the wraith wrecked me a little my first time through.after that i figured his pattern out.he is simple and im not even sure he should be a proper boss.maybe a mini boss.the dragon is harder and even then if you have aveline the dragon is simple.just..like all dragons in the game he has massive life but hardly any defense.especially if you rune frost runes into your weapons.

[TravisB]

haha the frost runes will serve you well for the whole game as lots of things are weak to frost.qunari..dragons...etc.