How would you change the three classes (warrior, rogue, mage)?
Would you add any classes?
Discuss.
Modifié par Abraham_uk, 18 juin 2013 - 05:02 .
The Three Classes. (Warrior, Rogue, Mage)
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:02
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Looking back at Dragon Age 2
How would you change the three classes (warrior, rogue, mage)?
Would you add any classes?
Discuss.
How would you change the three classes (warrior, rogue, mage)?
Would you add any classes?
Discuss.
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#2
Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:26
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- Warrior
Polearms/Bows.
More party buff talents such as Rally.
More talents which do not depend specifically on weapon choice, such as Assail.
- Rogue
Rapiers/Whips.
The ability to set traps.
Better animations for Dual Wield Rogues - you should not be facing your target all the time.
If a Rogue in the party is capable of detecting traps, other companions should avoid traps automatically.
- Mage
Summons/Shapeshifting.
More short range attack spells such as Cone of Cold.
Spirit Healer should be more offense oriented but less indestructible.
Polearms/Bows.
More party buff talents such as Rally.
More talents which do not depend specifically on weapon choice, such as Assail.
- Rogue
Rapiers/Whips.
The ability to set traps.
Better animations for Dual Wield Rogues - you should not be facing your target all the time.
If a Rogue in the party is capable of detecting traps, other companions should avoid traps automatically.
- Mage
Summons/Shapeshifting.
More short range attack spells such as Cone of Cold.
Spirit Healer should be more offense oriented but less indestructible.
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#3
Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:35
IanPolaris
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Warriors should be able to use bows.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:45
Wulfram
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Warriors need a ranged option, and a specialisation that fits disciplined warriors that isn't Templar.
Rogues need the ability to kick people in the private parts back.
Rogues need the ability to kick people in the private parts back.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:46
Tarek
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its the fantasy holy trinity lots of classes fall under one or more of these main "classes"
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:46
Gregolian
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Warrior
-Have more specializations that aren't weapon specific
Rogues
-Some of the attacks were, a bit over the top
Mage
-Arcane Warrior
-Have more specializations that aren't weapon specific
Rogues
-Some of the attacks were, a bit over the top
Mage
-Arcane Warrior
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 05:51
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-Rogues: use of main hand sword/mace/axe plus dagger in offhand, like in DAO. Going full daggers should be an option, not mandatory.
-Warriors: get stamina like rogues, not only for every kill. Polearms like halberds.
-Mages: an option to magically buff itself and their melee attacks, still using staves. A sort of arcane warrior for everyone and not just some ancient elven order. Similar to the enhancement shaman in wow.
-Warriors: get stamina like rogues, not only for every kill. Polearms like halberds.
-Mages: an option to magically buff itself and their melee attacks, still using staves. A sort of arcane warrior for everyone and not just some ancient elven order. Similar to the enhancement shaman in wow.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 06:33
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I'd eliminate all of the weapon restrictions for all classes.
I'd remove those absurd auto-attack animations for mages.
I'd make weapons optional for mages.
I'd give mages more crowd control options.
I would eliminate any taunting abilities from warriors.
I would make Rogues' backstab abilities contingent on positioning, rather than having them move behind their opponents automatically.
I'd remove those absurd auto-attack animations for mages.
I'd make weapons optional for mages.
I'd give mages more crowd control options.
I would eliminate any taunting abilities from warriors.
I would make Rogues' backstab abilities contingent on positioning, rather than having them move behind their opponents automatically.
#9
Posté 18 juin 2013 - 06:34
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Bring back Arcane Warrior and/or Spirit Warrior and I'd be happy.
I wouldn't mind lockpicking options for the other classes either, so we don't have to always have a rogue in the party. Less effective than a rogue's, obviously, maybe being a talent or part of a specialization.
I wouldn't mind lockpicking options for the other classes either, so we don't have to always have a rogue in the party. Less effective than a rogue's, obviously, maybe being a talent or part of a specialization.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 07:02
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bring back warrior dual wielding, give them a knight type advanced class that isn't Templar, and archery.
bring back positioning for back stabs and the face stabs build for rogues.
Arcane warrior for mages
bring back positioning for back stabs and the face stabs build for rogues.
Arcane warrior for mages
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 07:50
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I'd allow any class to spec into any weapon, use any armour, and separate the class-defining mechanics into class-specific trees and specializations.
If that systems turns out to be difficult to balance, then good; coming up with unusual combinations and seeing how different mechanics work together is most of the fun in building a character. It's so easy to make a good character and so hard to do anything unusual that the whole system was almost redundant in DA2, might as well just give me my pre-made [weapon type][class] and be done with it.
I'd like a rogue to be able to stealth into a pack of enemies and start flailing around with a 2h sword, or have a mage competent enough with sword&shield to get into the fray and use some of their radius attacks (ideally, without having to sheath / unsheath their weapon each time).
And more specializations, maybe some cross-class specializations too (bard, reaver, etc). Probably just one per character though.
If that systems turns out to be difficult to balance, then good; coming up with unusual combinations and seeing how different mechanics work together is most of the fun in building a character. It's so easy to make a good character and so hard to do anything unusual that the whole system was almost redundant in DA2, might as well just give me my pre-made [weapon type][class] and be done with it.
I'd like a rogue to be able to stealth into a pack of enemies and start flailing around with a 2h sword, or have a mage competent enough with sword&shield to get into the fray and use some of their radius attacks (ideally, without having to sheath / unsheath their weapon each time).
And more specializations, maybe some cross-class specializations too (bard, reaver, etc). Probably just one per character though.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:04
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I want better options for warrior it was the most boring class in DA2 by far. it needs more attacks. also I want the dual weapon skill to allow two swords like in DAO.
and different specializations for warrior seriously bioware mix it up
and different specializations for warrior seriously bioware mix it up
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:07
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A lot of these complaints (like, remove class restricted armor) aren't about the class itself but rather about how the game mechanics respond to the classes.
In regards to the classes themselves, I'd like there to be a half-class in between each one, like Mass Effect. I'd have a whole new level of fun playing a magish rogue, or a warrior-ish rogue.
In regards to the classes themselves, I'd like there to be a half-class in between each one, like Mass Effect. I'd have a whole new level of fun playing a magish rogue, or a warrior-ish rogue.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:13
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I'd like dual wielding warrior back.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:13
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Weapons.
Rogues: dagger, curved swords, and bows (+ the ability to switch weapon from dagger to bow easily on the run, depending on the distance).
Rogues/Warriors: crossbows (+ the ability to dual wield light crossbows), rapiers, bucklers.
Warriors: swords, axes, shields, greatswords (with the ability to one-wield it with the required Strength + a shield), greataxe (+ the ability to dual wield it)
Rogue/Mage: whips, magical polearms + the ability to wield a shield with a required stat.
Rogue/Warrior: fist weapons or blunt weapons, massive magical hammers.
Mage: staves for right hand and different abilities for left hand (from shield to another source of magic).
Basically, look at Dark Souls! It has great weapon diversity. Every weapon has its own animation, stat & all, and you can use ANY weapon to beat the game. You have to find the weapon with a moveset you like and go on.
Rogues: dagger, curved swords, and bows (+ the ability to switch weapon from dagger to bow easily on the run, depending on the distance).
Rogues/Warriors: crossbows (+ the ability to dual wield light crossbows), rapiers, bucklers.
Warriors: swords, axes, shields, greatswords (with the ability to one-wield it with the required Strength + a shield), greataxe (+ the ability to dual wield it)
Rogue/Mage: whips, magical polearms + the ability to wield a shield with a required stat.
Rogue/Warrior: fist weapons or blunt weapons, massive magical hammers.
Mage: staves for right hand and different abilities for left hand (from shield to another source of magic).
Basically, look at Dark Souls! It has great weapon diversity. Every weapon has its own animation, stat & all, and you can use ANY weapon to beat the game. You have to find the weapon with a moveset you like and go on.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:14
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I vote for one versatile class, instead of this antiquated trio.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:14
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Just something like higher base willpower or lower stamina costs would do it. Warriors were amazingly resource starved in both games with the conventional strength/dex builds.garrusfan1 wrote...
I want better options for warrior it was the most boring class in DA2 by far. it needs more attacks. also I want the dual weapon skill to allow two swords like in DAO.
and different specializations for warrior seriously bioware mix it up
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:23
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Give archer rogues proper set of shots and stances - and I'll be fine. And, probably, get archery back to warriors as well. Because 4 shots of which 2 are aoe, 1 has looong CD and another 1 is next to useless.....that was very unexpected, really. Even Diablo 2 had more options for a girl with a bow.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:24
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Give me a rogue mage class and I'd be giddy.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:29
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Solmanian wrote...
I vote for one versatile class, instead of this antiquated trio.
Couldn't agree more with this - after playing Skyrim, I have become a very happy Spellsword with a bit of Rogue thrown in. After sneaking in past their traps and gates, I hit them with Firebolt then swipe them with a blade. Works for me.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:34
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I wouldn't mind having specialisations that blurr the lines between the classes.
Arcane Warrior returning for Mages
Interceptor being a rogue esque option for warriors.
Legionnaire (a tanky option for rogues) returning for rogues.
Arcane Warrior returning for Mages
Interceptor being a rogue esque option for warriors.
Legionnaire (a tanky option for rogues) returning for rogues.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:37
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Warriors should be able to wield bows as it was back in Origins, not to mention their Archery tree should be unique. The same could be said for dual-wielding. The addition of polearms would prove to be most excellent as well.
Meanwhile, Rogues shouldn't be forced to dual-wield daggers - allow us to equip a different weapon in our main hand.
Lastly, Mages should be able to cast with their own hands and mustn't be penalized across the board for it - make it different but not less effective.
Meanwhile, Rogues shouldn't be forced to dual-wield daggers - allow us to equip a different weapon in our main hand.
Lastly, Mages should be able to cast with their own hands and mustn't be penalized across the board for it - make it different but not less effective.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 08:37
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A warrior in my opinion should have access to be proficient in any type of weapon. In fact I think any class should have access to be profecient in any type of weapon. A class should not constitute the weapon to use that is limiting. How about people that want to play a double wielding mage? A rogue who could disarm traps but is also good with a stick? Give people access to every weapon but classes should attatch benefits to go with that weapon. The dragon age system is a bit limiting.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 09:39
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Remove weapons restrictions. Give rogues and warriors access to ALL weapons trees.
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Posté 18 juin 2013 - 09:51
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I would actually prefer something like Dragon's Dogma, with the three classes and more combination of the classes
