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[Ieldra]

...and I wonder if I'm the only one.

I was thoroughly unimpressed by David Gaider's earlier books, "The Stolen Throne" and "The Calling", but his writing has improved considerably in "Asunder". There are compelling characters and believable pacing, and I suspect there may have been a conscious attempt to avoid being unduly influenced by the conventions of video game storytelling, unlike the older books. "Asunder" has merits on its own, it's more than an accessory to the games, and the first book I've read that breaks the rule "books based on video games are crap." It's very enjoyable to read.

Really nice work. I wouldn't mind reading more like that. 

[Tenshi]

finished it today... cole actualy took me by suprise in the end  :-p but i agree, while earlier 2 books were good they were quite boring in some parts. asunder is awesome.

edit: i noticed there are some spoilers in discussion bellow. careful about that ;-D

Modifié par xxx2emo4Uxxx, 21 juin 2013 - 11:30 .

[CrazyRah]

I had a rather good read with Asunder. Think i enjoyed it the most because of the characters and the subject the story was about

[artsangel]

I agree. It's been interesting to read through the books and watch DG grow as a book storyteller. The plotlines and characters were always interesting of course, but I think the pacing in Asunder was far improved. And actually, it was the only one with new characters that I have ended up really wanting to see in-game (Cole, Rhys, Evangeline)

[Firky]

I really enjoyed Asunder, too. Very clever thematically. I still haven't finished one of the others, can't recall which one, but I couldn't put Asunder down.

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Modifié par Firky, 19 juin 2013 - 01:12 .

[milena87]

Yep, I really liked the story in Asunder (no Deep Roads, yay!) and its characters. Shale was awesome as always and both Cole and Evageline were very interesting characters. I even liked Wynne in this book.

[Maclimes]

I also really enjoyed the book. Although I also enjoyed "The Stolen Throne", too. (I wasn't a huge fan of "The Calling", however.)

I know there's another Dragon Age book (either coming out soon, or already out) that's by an author other than David Gaider. I'm very curious. When I get some time, I'll check it out.

[Xilizhra]

I quite liked Asunder too, and never quite understood the Adrian hate.

[d-boy15]

In my opinion, It's the real Dragon Age 2.

[Ieldra]

Maclimes wrote...
I also really enjoyed the book. Although I also enjoyed "The Stolen Throne", too. (I wasn't a huge fan of "The Calling", however.)

I know there's another Dragon Age book (either coming out soon, or already out) that's by an author other than David Gaider. I'm very curious. When I get some time, I'll check it out.

"The Masked Empire", by Patrick Weekes. Patrick Weekes has worked on the Mass Effect games as a senior writer, and I mostly liked what he did. We'll see how well that transfers to book writing.

[Tootles FTW]

Haven't read the other books, but I'll throw in my cents that I enjoyed Asunder a lot. I have high hopes & dreams that we'll see some of the characters in DA:I.

Modifié par Tootles FTW, 19 juin 2013 - 01:41 .

[Ieldra]

Xilizhra wrote...
I quite liked Asunder too, and never quite understood the Adrian hate.

I understand it. Adrian almost appears to be a throwback to the earlier books, where characters tended to be written around one defining trait that overshadows everything. I think she's one of the weaker characters of the book, her fiery passion appears too deliberate.

[Xilizhra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
I quite liked Asunder too, and never quite understood the Adrian hate.

I understand it. Adrian almost appears to be a throwback to the earlier books, where characters tended to be written around one defining trait that overshadows everything. I think she's one of the weaker characters of the book, her fiery passion appears too deliberate.

Maybe somewhat one-note, but I've always enjoyed great passion.

[Ieldra]

Xilizhra wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
I quite liked Asunder too, and never quite understood the Adrian hate.

I understand it. Adrian almost appears to be a throwback to the earlier books, where characters tended to be written around one defining trait that overshadows everything. I think she's one of the weaker characters of the book, her fiery passion appears too deliberate.

Maybe somewhat one-note, but I've always enjoyed great passion.

Appropriate for a teenager, maybe. In the leader of a mage fraternity, passion should be much more tempered by reason.

[Xilizhra]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
I quite liked Asunder too, and never quite understood the Adrian hate.

I understand it. Adrian almost appears to be a throwback to the earlier books, where characters tended to be written around one defining trait that overshadows everything. I think she's one of the weaker characters of the book, her fiery passion appears too deliberate.

Maybe somewhat one-note, but I've always enjoyed great passion.

Appropriate for a teenager, maybe. In the leader of a mage fraternity, passion should be much more tempered by reason.

She certainly has reason enough to carry out her schemes. But I find it hard to blame someone for being that perpetually angry when always surrounded by injustice.

[frostajulie]

After I finished DAO and DA2 I really missed the world and the setting so I got The calling and the Stolen throne. The story was okay but I didn't really care much for the characters- except for Maric, I was actually relieved when I finished them which usually only happens when I feel like a book just missed the mark.

Asunder was very different. I had a blast reading that book, I loved the characters, I found myself repulsed and empathetic in equal parts for Cole, I finally learned to love Wynne she really is a good woman even if she does come across as preachy in the game. If I could see more templars like Evangeline in the game I might not be so pro mage. I really identified with Adriennes ruthless rage for her situation and I felt so sorry for her, she made the mage situation personal because she has no personal life and that was very sad, in the end she lost her one friend and became a tool to be used by cowards and revolutionaries alike. Rhys was exactly the kind of protagonist I like to read about. A good person trying to do the right thing not setting out to be a hero but a hero because of who he is on the inside. I was delighted at the Divine when she siad the mages were to be cherished, Adrienne was crying because she had always been told the opposite was true from the Chantry and to hear that from the divine even when you profess not to believe that had to mean something and I was crying too. Asunder really found the sweet spot for good story and characterization And I first thought I was going to hate the end then I got to the last page and it was a soaringly triumphant fist pump of an ending, I left the book feeling really good about the world and optimistic about tackling the future. This book has me seriously eyeballing DA3.

[lil yonce]

It was okay. I mostly liked the plot, and receiving more lore or more detail on some lore, but I thought the book was too long, and every character annoyed me. Except Wynne, and *Spoiler Alert* I hate that she died for Evangeline. Bad end.

[Beerfish]

Very good beginning to the book, overall quite a good book except for a few things. I think some of the characters were written with one out look in mind but they had an exact opposite reaction from me. (As in I hated the heros or protagonists and the characters who were supposed to be the villains of the piece I had great empathy for.)

I have expressed a worry a few times about characters from the book showing up in DA Inquisition. I will have a really hard time putting aside my negative feelings for some of these characters if I meet them in DAI.

[frostajulie]

Youth4Ever wrote...

It was okay. I mostly liked the plot, and receiving more lore or more detail on some lore, but I thought the book was too long, and every character annoyed me. Except Wynne, and *Spoiler Alert* I hate that she died for Evangeline. Bad end.

Really? Even Rhys? different strokes I guess
*SPOILER**






As for Wynne I thought her end was wonderful, for once she did something for herself.  She spent a life in service serving others, serving Ferelden, serving the Mages, Serving the Maker, serving the greater good.  But in her death she did something for herself that brought her happiness.  She sacrificed her life to give her son a chance at a future with the woman he loved.  She didn't do this to serve others she did it for her son who she loved.  To me this was Wynnes finest moment, she was no longer serving the nameless and the faceless.  She was for once making a choice to serve her own happiness and she desperately wanted her son to be happy and live in a world different than the one she had lived in. Throughout the books Gaider dropped many clues about her love for her son while staying true to the Character of Wynne.  Her ending finally made her real and human and not some idealized form of what the paragon heroine is.

[Adela]

i thought the stolen throne and the calling were very well written i loved them both and the characters were also well written its true that at the end of the stolen throne the last battle wasn't so glorious as i was expecting but other then that i have no complaints i just got asunder 2 weeks ago haven't read it yet im sure it will be great, also i dont think its fair to say that the other two sucked cuz they didn't i think all of David's work is awesome hands down and i look forward for new stuff

[SphereofSilence]

Here here!

DA:Asunder was awesome. David Gaider is especially good at creating interesting characters and creating interesting interactions between them. That was apparent also in The Stolen Throne and The Calling. But in Asunder his overall writing for a novel has improved to a point that one can say it's genuinely good stuff. The characters and plot perfectly encapsulates the viewpoints and struggles of various conflicting factions in the Mage, Templar, Seeker and Chantry scenario. I think it did a good job of following up as the knock on effects from the events in Kirkwall, and also setting up the backdrop of Orlais for DAI nicely.

[NRieh]

I'm reading it right now, actually. And I totally agree with this statement:

the first book I've read that breaks the rule "books based on video games are crap.

I did not read first two books, though. But it was a very pleasant surprise after ME novels and few others I've seen before. Nice non-primitive language, good characters, and my recent DA PT adds some depth and context. I'm enjoying it.

[Beerfish]

frostajulie wrote...

Youth4Ever wrote...

It was okay. I mostly liked the plot, and receiving more lore or more detail on some lore, but I thought the book was too long, and every character annoyed me. Except Wynne, and *Spoiler Alert* I hate that she died for Evangeline. Bad end.

Really? Even Rhys? different strokes I guess

*SPOILER**

Rhys for me was one of the most unlikeable, wishy washy, traitorous characters in any book I've read.  A protagonist that was supposed to be liked by the audinece but instead was a reckless, very selfish and very stupid character.

[QueenSiD]

Finished "The Calling" yesterday (read it first because I wanted to know more about Fiona heh) and started "Asunder" this morning.

From the small amount I've read I can definitely see a huge improvement in the storytelling

[Abraham_uk]

If I were to purchases one book from Bioware, should Asunder be that one book?



Please note that I am a fan of both Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 19 juin 2013 - 03:02 .