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[Chromie]

Saw this over at Eurogamer.

I don't care about the ending anymore. Just thought others might wanna read this and hear what Drew has to say. Frankly I still think anything would've been better than what is in the game right now.

Drew Karpyshynwrote...
Dark Energy was something that only organics could access because of various techno-science magic reasons we hadn't decided on yet. Maybe using this Dark Energy was having a ripple effect on the space-time continuum.
"Maybe the Reapers kept wiping out organic life because organics keep evolving to the state where they would use biotics and dark energy and that caused an entropic effect that would hasten the end of the universe. Being immortal beings, that's something they wouldn't want to see.

Modifié par Skelter192, 19 juin 2013 - 03:34 .

[billy the squid]

Would have been better than the crap reasoning that the Reapers got in the current game.

[Star fury]

billy the squid wrote...

Would have been better than the crap reasoning that the Reapers got in the current game.

Pretty much.

[blaidfiste]

 More from Drew.  It relieved me to know that something else was planned.  

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

blaidfiste wrote...

 More from Drew.  It relieved me to know that something else was planned.  

Breaks mine that it wasn't to be.

[Fixers0]

The Dark energy scenario, would have still needed a lot of tweeking though, and a least some foreshadowing in the what became to be the arrival DLC.

[Redbelle]

ME2 - The scene we didn't see.

Tali - Shepard! Oh boy oh boy am I glad to see you..... There's this pesky dark energy that's making a sun collapse. Only it shouldn't be collapsing for another bajillion years and us Quarian's had a settlement here but now we can't use it anymore because we keep getting fried if we stand out in the sun too long and......

Shep - Tali..... I've got bad news..... <sigh> Dark energy doesn't matter anymore.

Tali - ...............what? But..... But this is my moment to shine! I get to join the crew after setting up this impending mystery of why suns go nova without warning!

Shep - I know..... I don't know what to say...... But since this is going nowhere I'm just going to take you back to Normandy. Look at it this way. We'll get more people out this way than just Reeger.

Tali - But I waaaanna staaaaaay! I wanna look like I'm contributing something impooooortaaaaant!!!

Shep - <whisper> The dark energy narrative gets cut in ME3 Tali...... There's no point anymore.

Tali - <Cries silently in her mask. Then perks up>.........Their gonna make a 4! Right?

[Cainne Chapel]

Yeah but who is to say if it would be better or worse? It was a couple of vague throaway lines in ONE mission in ME2, not really quite enough of a thread to be the end all for the series.

No I feel almost anyway the series ended we would of had a B*tchfest

[Malanek]

billy the squid wrote...

Would have been better than the crap reasoning that the Reapers got in the current game.

I think it sounds a quite lame to be honest as well as very undeveloped. I wasn't overly fond of the ending but that doesn't make any other idea automatically good.

[FlamingBoy]

Its bad, but with Drew it would have been handled in a way that extended beyond a 2 minute explanation and a 3 minute nonsensical cut scene.

[dreamgazer]

blaidfiste wrote...

 More from Drew.  It relieved me to know that something else was planned.  

Yep. Something else just as bad.

[Bullets McDeath]

Yeah, see, while the ending is... what it is... this isn't like the lost holy grail of what ME3 could have been. In fact, based off the few sly Dark Energy references and the mission on Haestrom, this is exactly what I would have predicted, and I know several others on the BSN had as well. Say what you will about what we got... it was definitely a surprise.

[MrFob]

I always found it funny that so many people said they hated the dark energy plot without knowing all the details. I always thought it was it was a great idea and that it would have been a clever way to set the ME universe up for interesting story lines even beyond Shepard's and the reaper's stories.

I tried to revive the DE idea (in my very own way) with my first mod and while it seems that a straight up happy ending seems to resonate more with most people, for me personally, it's still my favorite take on the story.

[Calibrations52]

This sounds just as ridiculous as the ending we got to be honest. Perhaps the execution would have been better, but it sounds just as confusing and contrived.

I might be crazy, but maybe the best thing for the ending would have been to avoid giving the Reapers some sort of motive behind their destruction besides...well...destruction. It would have been much less confusing to say what Sovereign essentially said in ME1 - the Reapers believe themselves to be superior and they come to wipe out the most advanced races every 50,000 years because they can...

[Oni Changas]

IMO DE would have been a perfect plot. It essentially encapsulates the namesake of the series! Ingenius idea that could have been ironed out to make more contextual and narrative sense.

[ObserverStatus]

Personally I would have preferred if it had never revealed why the reapers did what they did, they were more interesting when they were beyond our comprehension.

[Oni Changas]

And to those speaking on predictability, I'd rather have something that we know works than a broken surprise.DE was one way that ME2 could be vindicated as well.

[Xamufam]

Modifié par Troxa, 22 juin 2013 - 05:07 .

[MrFob]

Oh I know that it was dropped early and never got fleshed out. That's exactly why I find it so funny to see people complain that "it doesn't make sense", etc.. Of course it doesn't because the story was ultimately not written for it.
Also, Chris l'Etoile is my absolute favorite writer ever to work on the ME series.
I like his ideas but I don't see why the two couldn't have been combined. As OniTYME wrote, using the actual "Mass Effect" in the story in such a way would have been a very nice move.
I also think it wouldn't have been to obvious. The only reason why no one expected the current endings is because they are extremely disconnected from the rest of the plot. That's not exactly better than doing something sensible. IMO, a good ending can be predicted by a certain percentage of the audience and there is always a bit of satisfaction in being able to say: "I knew it!" at the end. Of course, if it's too obvious, that's not good either but I don't think that would have been the case.

[Remix-General Aetius]

ugh god, can you imagine Shepard as a cyborg in ME2? that would've been terrible. no kidding it got sent to the shredder.

blaidfiste wrote...

 More from Drew.  It relieved me to know that something else was planned.  

oh god that's even worse!!! people are yapping that all the recruitments and stuff became insignificant.....but....but....the original endings would've rendered the entire trilogy insignificant!!! they may call it Mass Effect but from the get go it became all about the Reapers.

if they had gone with the original endings, the Reapers would've seemed like such an effin waste of time lol.

Modifié par TheGarden2010, 20 juin 2013 - 06:40 .

[Xamufam]

Modifié par Troxa, 22 juin 2013 - 05:08 .

[Clayless]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Yeah but who is to say if it would be better or worse? It was a couple of vague throaway lines in ONE mission in ME2, not really quite enough of a thread to be the end all for the series.

No I feel almost anyway the series ended we would of had a B*tchfest

One optional ME2 mission to boot.

[Synergizer]

Meh, the Reapers should have just been psychopathic machines. In 1, Harbinger hated organics, especially advanced organics, and it liked the idea of wiping out advanced organic races over and over like a perverse game. The Dark Energy tangent was touched on in a few dialogs but it's probably better to leave dark energy for a greater story arc.

[AlanC9]

Synergizer wrote...

Meh, the Reapers should have just been psychopathic machines. In 1, Harbinger hated organics, especially advanced organics, and it liked the idea of wiping out advanced organic races over and over like a perverse game. The Dark Energy tangent was touched on in a few dialogs but it's probably better to leave dark energy for a greater story arc.

So they only let organic races develop technology because war is more fun when they can fight back a little?

Kind of works.

[kyban]

See, he says fans would have been upset with any ending. But I honestly feel that the dark energy plot would have been better received. Maybe there would have been an outrage, but not to the effect of what happened.
At least the dark energy plot was foreshadowed and talked about in previous games. It would not have come completely out of left field and knocked players on their backsides.