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[Wulfram]

Maybe strong jaws are a class feature?

I wonder how well people would do at picking peoples classes just from the face. Aveline and Cassandra are obviously warriors. I can't see Morrigan's face as a rogue, though I couldn't say why - maybe it's just the make-up which is probably cheating. Nathaniel looks pretty roguish. But Anders and Alistair are kind of similar, so they might refute my hyothesis.

Modifié par Wulfram, 16 septembre 2013 - 09:01 .

[HiroVoid]

I do know in CC, I tend to give my warrior characters thicker necks.

[Elanor]

Forget the chin... Shouldn't she has a bit darker skin?

[Fredward]

I make all my PC's hot as humanly possible, by my standards anyway. But I honestly do not give a **** about what a NPC looks like. I haven't found a single one of Bioware's companions particularly attractive except Fenris if you like broody, I don't but meh. Happily physical appearance is the only thing about Bioware's characters that I have felt apathy over. They always evoke some response from me be that love, hate, like, dislike or vacillating between all of the above. As long as that continues to be the case I'm going to reserve my nitpicking for more engaging aspects.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Deffo Nay in both DA2 and DA I

[Unknown_Warrior]

I think throughout DAI we'll learn of how she was bitten by a radioactive celebrity noble and gained superhuman powers, fighting evil throughout Thedas with her lantern jaw of JUSTICE.

In all seriousness, I wonder what made Bioware look at her DA2 design and made them think; "what this needs is a Jay Leno twist."
Oh well, we'll see in fall September, I don't really mind appearance retcons anyway.

Modifié par Unknown_Warrior, 16 septembre 2013 - 10:05 .

[crimzontearz]

Unknown_Warrior wrote...

I think throughout DAI we'll learn of how she was bitten by a radioactive celebrity noble and gained superhuman powers, fighting evil throughout Thedas with her lantern jaw of JUSTICE.

In all seriousness, I wonder what made Bioware look at her DA2 design and made them think; "what this needs is a Jay Leno twist."
Oh well, we'll see in fall September, I don't really mind appearance retcons anyway.

here coooomes the Crimson Chiiiiin

[Zkyire]

David Gaider wrote...
The artists are interested in making distinctive characters, not supermodels.

So distinct that she looks different in Dragon Age 2, Dawn of the Seeker and Dragon Age Inquisition.

Forget about different engines, just focus on masculine/feminine.

Take Dragon Age 2 as her base. That's neutral.

DotS made her more feminine (and much paler).

Dragon Age Inquisition makes her look older, with a more masculine jawline.

Modifié par Zkyire, 16 septembre 2013 - 10:57 .

[Naughty Bear]

Zkyire wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
The artists are interested in making distinctive characters, not supermodels.

So distinct that she looks different in Dragon Age 2, Dawn of the Seeker and Dragon Age Inquisition.

Forget about different engines, just focus on masculine/feminine.

Take Dragon Age 2 as her base. That's neutral.

DotS made her more feminine (and much paler).

Dragon Age Inquisition makes her look older, with a more masculine jawline.

That's because its a damn anime.

[azarhal]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
The artists are interested in making distinctive characters, not supermodels.

So distinct that she looks different in Dragon Age 2, Dawn of the Seeker and Dragon Age Inquisition.

Forget about different engines, just focus on masculine/feminine.

Take Dragon Age 2 as her base. That's neutral.

DotS made her more feminine (and much paler).

Dragon Age Inquisition makes her look older, with a more masculine jawline.

That's because its a damn anime.

And she was like 16 years old (it's a Japanese anime). Funny enough, her DAI eyebrows are more in line with the anime than DA2...

[Sandy]

I think part of why some people have voiced their concerns about Cassandra's apperance isn't that she isn't 'pretty enough', but rather that she looks different from how she did in DA2.

I think that most people, myself included, found her attractive in DA2, and as such, we kind of expected her to still be attractive in DA:I. Some people now feel that she doesn't look as attractive as she did in DA2 (i.e. she doesn't look the same) Even taking into account that it has been a few years between her interogation Varric and DA:I her facial features shouldn't have changed that much, right? So I'm guessing that the people who are upset about her change is more upset that she is changed, rather than her being 'ugly'.

I admit that I found her face in the first trailer a bit odd, especially compared to her DA2 look, but now that I've seen her in the PAX demo I think she looks alot better. Still a bit rough around the edges, but still, she looks closer to what I had imagined.

[ArtemisMoons]

At first, I wasn't a big fan of how she looked in the trailer. Now, I actually like it. They make her less "feminine" (which is a societal constructed term anyhow) and gave her the look of a strong warrior.

I think it's great that they are varying the facial structures instead of making everyone a thin, lithe framed, dainty lady.

** As for why she looks different from DA2, well they changed the art style. I don't think she looks completely different. She still looks like Cassandra to me.

Modifié par ArtemisMoons, 17 septembre 2013 - 04:47 .

[David Gaider]

sandellniklas wrote...
I think part of why some people have voiced their concerns about Cassandra's apperance isn't that she isn't 'pretty enough', but rather that she looks different from how she did in DA2.

I'll agree on that front. Much of the tweaking that's been done on Cassandra to date (and likely what further tweaking would focus on) has been to make her align more closely with her DA2 appearance. That said, it's a new engine and thus the overall style has changed... so even if her features from DA2 were exactly replicated, she wouldn't look the same (aside from also looking a bit out of place next to the rest of the characters).

So, yes, this is an interpretation of Cassandra in the new engine. So long as someone can look at her and say "yes, that is recognizeably Cassandra", we're happy.

And I personally do think she's recognizeably Cassandra (albeit I also have the benefit of seeing her in-game, and in various lightings, and not just from single screenshots). So I am not bothered. Others might disagree, and that's fine, though I do find some of the hyperbole used by some of those claiming otherwise to be amusing.

[Dycho]

David Gaider wrote...

sandellniklas wrote...
I think part of why some people have voiced their concerns about Cassandra's apperance isn't that she isn't 'pretty enough', but rather that she looks different from how she did in DA2.

I'll agree on that front. Much of the tweaking that's been done on Cassandra to date (and likely what further tweaking would focus on) has been to make her align more closely with her DA2 appearance. That said, it's a new engine and thus the overall style has changed... so even if her features from DA2 were exactly replicated, she wouldn't look the same (aside from also looking a bit out of place next to the rest of the characters).

So, yes, this is an interpretation of Cassandra in the new engine. So long as someone can look at her and say "yes, that is recognizeably Cassandra", we're happy.

And I personally do think she's recognizeably Cassandra (albeit I also have the benefit of seeing her in-game, and in various lightings, and not just from single screenshots). So I am not bothered. Others might disagree, and that's fine, though I do find some of the hyperbole used by some of those claiming otherwise to be amusing.

THIS!!!

[PinkDiamondstl]

David Gaider wrote...

I find this thread odd.


"She has a giant jaw! It's huge!"

It's not that big, really. She does have very strong features though. I agree.

"Well you should change them!"

Why?

"So she would be prettier!"

What makes you think that making her conventionally pretty was the artists' primary goal?

"If she's not pretty enough, I won't want to have sex with her!"

I'm sure she'll be terribly disappointed, assuming she's even a romance.

"It doesn't matter if she's a romance!"

Ah. Well, you should probably know that we don't evaluate every character in the game by how pretty or how handsome they are. The artists are interested in making distinctive characters, not supermodels.

"Those are not mutually exclusive!"

No, I wouldn't normally think so either, but perhaps we're not reading the same thread.


Personally, I think there's bound to be some tweaking in the months to come-- so feel free to comment away-- but if anyone believes that tweaking will be aimed solely at making her more "pleasing to the eye" they've got another thing coming. Just FYI.

  Thank you! But the tweaking is not needed ...she's fine the way that she is. These people have too much time on their hands.

Modifié par PinkDiamondstl, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:21 .

[Sandy]

David Gaider wrote...

sandellniklas wrote...
I think part of why some people have voiced their concerns about Cassandra's apperance isn't that she isn't 'pretty enough', but rather that she looks different from how she did in DA2.

I'll agree on that front. Much of the tweaking that's been done on Cassandra to date (and likely what further tweaking would focus on) has been to make her align more closely with her DA2 appearance. That said, it's a new engine and thus the overall style has changed... so even if her features from DA2 were exactly replicated, she wouldn't look the same (aside from also looking a bit out of place next to the rest of the characters).

So, yes, this is an interpretation of Cassandra in the new engine. So long as someone can look at her and say "yes, that is recognizeably Cassandra", we're happy.

And I personally do think she's recognizeably Cassandra (albeit I also have the benefit of seeing her in-game, and in various lightings, and not just from single screenshots). So I am not bothered. Others might disagree, and that's fine, though I do find some of the hyperbole used by some of those claiming otherwise to be amusing.

Well said. And I'm sure the end result will be spectacular. I agree with you that so long as someone can look at her and say "yes, that is recognizeably Cassandra" then we should all be happy. That's why I really liked the way she looked in the PAX demo, because to me she looked much more like Cassandra from DA2 (there might have been no changes whatsoever made to her from the reveal trailer, I don't really know if that was the case or not, but she just looked more recognizable to me).
Also, it didn't hurt to hear her voice again.  Dat accent... 

I actually like that she has been given more of a 'strong warrior' look, but I can see why some people though the empathizing of her jawline was a bit daunting at first. You can be a strong warrior without having a 'masculine' (and I'm not fond of the term) jawline after all.

But like I said, I'm confident that the artists and animators or whoever are in chage of her headmorph/face will do a fantastic job and will give us a representation of Cassandra that is both evocative of her DA2 look but is also more consistent with the new engine and art-style.

Modifié par sandellniklas, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:29 .

[Clertar]

This fixation with a jaw slightly like this or slightly like that means people here are way too bored xD

Modifié par Clertar, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:32 .

[crimzontearz]

David Gaider wrote...

sandellniklas wrote...
I think part of why some people have voiced their concerns about Cassandra's apperance isn't that she isn't 'pretty enough', but rather that she looks different from how she did in DA2.

I'll agree on that front. Much of the tweaking that's been done on Cassandra to date (and likely what further tweaking would focus on) has been to make her align more closely with her DA2 appearance. That said, it's a new engine and thus the overall style has changed... so even if her features from DA2 were exactly replicated, she wouldn't look the same (aside from also looking a bit out of place next to the rest of the characters).

So, yes, this is an interpretation of Cassandra in the new engine. So long as someone can look at her and say "yes, that is recognizeably Cassandra", we're happy.

And I personally do think she's recognizeably Cassandra (albeit I also have the benefit of seeing her in-game, and in various lightings, and not just from single screenshots). So I am not bothered. Others might disagree, and that's fine, though I do find some of the hyperbole used by some of those claiming otherwise to be amusing.

totally agree....but I think I argued something along those lines about the DA2 darkspawn and I was shot down....

[Jaulen]

Forget the jaw...she needs a thicker neck!!!! Not a neck that looks like it could not support the weight of a heavy armor helmet let alone her head.

She looks like a bobble head, or a charlie brown character.

Modifié par Jaulen, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:54 .

[Tarek]

make her a man... problem solved

in fact all women should stay at homes in DA3 .. we need more men

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Tarek wrote...

make her a man... problem solved

in fact all women should stay at homes in DA3 .. we need more men

No.

[bluebeam]

I say keep her strong jaw, just to spite those who keep complaining about it
Her neck, however, should be larger. That would be realistic for a warrior, not that flimsy neck she had in the trailer.

To be honest, when I first watched the trailer I thought for some moments that she was Marian Hawke. Some of her features are definitely different from DA2, no matter the engine, but at least I'm getting used to her new face. It's always a continuity problem for me if a face or voice changes even slightly from one game to another, but I get used to the changes in time.

[Giant ambush beetle]

I agree with those that say her neck should be slightly...stronger. I also think thats actually the problem that makes her jaw look big for some people, its not the jaw itself, its the slim neck.

[Wulfram]

I guess Devs are more used to characters iterating on their appearance. While us fans spend embarrassing amounts of time getting used to someone's appearance and then WHAM suddenly they're different.

Modifié par Wulfram, 17 septembre 2013 - 07:06 .

[Viper371]

All female warriors should look like this:


Clearly, everyone can see she's ready for combat, with heavy armor and a broadsword.