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[foilpainter]

 

[SethM404]

The PS4 and Xbox One prohibit backwards compatibility, so unless the ME Trilogy is released on the market places, you wont be able to play them.

[Cainne Chapel]

As Seth said, both companies were pretty upfront that BC will NOT happen on either console due to the different architecture of the systems involved.

So no, your current disks wont work. Maybe they'll offer streaming through Gaikai (PS4) or something through Live but so far, I'd keep your current consoles if you want to play games on them

[naes1984]

No. Not possible.

[John Spartan 248]

They'll probably put all three on one next compatible disc or one download.

[FruiBat84]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-22980973

Microsoft have just backtracked & are now going to allow full backwards compatibility as well as use of pre-owned games & ones lent to friends. So going by this news I'd say yes.

[InterrogationBear]

FruiBat84 wrote...

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-22980973

Microsoft have just backtracked & are now going to allow full backwards compatibility as well as use of pre-owned games & ones lent to friends. So going by this news I'd say yes.

No. The switch from PowerPC to x86-CPUs made backwards compatibility impossible.

[Cainne Chapel]

FruiBat84 wrote...

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-22980973

Microsoft have just backtracked & are now going to allow full backwards compatibility as well as use of pre-owned games & ones lent to friends. So going by this news I'd say yes.

Them backtracking on the always online and sharing DRM has absolutely ZERO to do with Backwards compatibility.

Its not BC because its a COMPLETELY different architecture.  Its like asking why your 360 games wont work on PS3

[AlanC9]

Wouldn't emulation be theoretically possible? Dunno if the XBox One has the power to do it, though.

[Shadow Storm]

As long as EA is calling the shots i hope they stay dead and i am no fan of Bioware anymore either. Memories were good but that is about it for me. It is funny how EA was likely one of the driving forces behind the communist Xbox policies much like the silly state of ME3. Big surprise it royally backfired just like ME3 proving once again you do not shove crap down gamers throats and expect them to stand idle.

I hope they learn from their mistakes but when money is involved EA will always be there with their grubby hands outstretched. If you like current gen titles then keep your console just in case. There is rumors that PS4 will allow you to play PS3 games using Gakai tech later down the track but as for using your current disks that is not possible. Guess the whole "entitled" thing must ****** off Bioware about now. People are now turning around and saying "kiss my ass i will take my money elsewhere". lol

Modifié par Raiden Storm, 21 juin 2013 - 07:48 .

[o Ventus]

The PS4 is backwards compatible via cloud (Gaikai) streaming. I would initially think that something like this could be done with the Microsoft cloud. I don't think the PS4 is BC right off the bat though, some work needs to be done converting the software.

I remember a passing mention by Major Nelson about possibly being able to play older games on the cloud; trying to play them on a disk obviously won't work.

Modifié par o Ventus, 21 juin 2013 - 08:01 .

[lolerk53]

Having backwards compatabillity would raise the price through the roof.
It would basically require installing the PS3/Xbox 360 chip (CPU + GPU + Whatever else is needed) inside the PS4/Xbox One.
The only way they could do it is through either services like Gaikai or OnLive, or software emulation which is unreliable.

[FlamingBoy]

highly unlikely that they would bother with the "crossing over" of saved files.

[Sanunes]

AlanC9 wrote...

Wouldn't emulation be theoretically possible? Dunno if the XBox One has the power to do it, though.

To my knowledge all emulation of older consoles have had extra hardware added to the consoles to run the backwards compatibility.  It was one of the first things ripped out of the PS3 to try and reduce the costs and with how people are talking about price already I don't think they would be willing to spend a possible extra $100 for backwards compatibility.

[lolerk53]

Sanunes wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Wouldn't emulation be theoretically possible? Dunno if the XBox One has the power to do it, though.

To my knowledge all emulation of older consoles have had extra hardware added to the consoles to run the backwards compatibility.  It was one of the first things ripped out of the PS3 to try and reduce the costs and with how people are talking about price already I don't think they would be willing to spend a possible extra $100 for backwards compatibility.

Xbox 360 did software emulation AFAIK.
Though it worked poorly, and each game required special treatment before it would work at all.
Not as much as porting though.

[Cainne Chapel]

Raiden Storm wrote...

As long as EA is calling the shots i hope they stay dead and i am no fan of Bioware anymore either. Memories were good but that is about it for me. It is funny how EA was likely one of the driving forces behind the communist Xbox policies much like the silly state of ME3. Big surprise it royally backfired just like ME3 proving once again you do not shove crap down gamers throats and expect them to stand idle.

I hope they learn from their mistakes but when money is involved EA will always be there with their grubby hands outstretched. If you like current gen titles then keep your console just in case. There is rumors that PS4 will allow you to play PS3 games using Gakai tech later down the track but as for using your current disks that is not possible. Guess the whole "entitled" thing must ****** off Bioware about now. People are now turning around and saying "kiss my ass i will take my money elsewhere". lol

I'm sorry but what does anything microsoft does or doesn't do have ANYTHING to do with EA?

I find it funny how people dislike EA so much (And lord knows why...) they blame OTHER MAJOR corporations missteps on them.

Also as a long time bioware fan i happened to love ME 3 so... you seem very angry for no reason.

[The Elite Elite]

lolerk53 wrote...

Xbox 360 did software emulation AFAIK.
Though it worked poorly, and each game required special treatment before it would work at all.
Not as much as porting though.

On most of my original Xbox games, the emulation worked perfectly fine. Games like Jade Empire, KOTOR I, and KOTOR II have a few different areas where the frame rate gets shot to hell on the 360, but for the most part they run just as smoothly as if I had loaded them up on my original Xbox. But I don't see Microsoft doing that again for the One. I bet they'll eventually go the same way Sony is going. Just repurchase the previous generation game(s) you want off the Live marketplace.

Cainne Chapel wrote...
I find it funny how people dislike EA so much (And lord knows why...) they blame OTHER MAJOR corporations missteps on them.

Yeah I get a little sick of the "EA is the devil" view myself. Never understood the hate some people have for Ea.

Modifié par The Elite Elite, 22 juin 2013 - 01:38 .

[lolerk53]

The Elite Elite wrote...

lolerk53 wrote...

Xbox 360 did software emulation AFAIK.
Though it worked poorly, and each game required special treatment before it would work at all.
Not as much as porting though.

On most of my original Xbox games, the emulation worked perfectly fine. Games like Jade Empire, KOTOR I, and KOTOR II have a few different areas where the frame rate gets shot to hell on the 360, but for the most part they run just as smoothly as if I had loaded them up on my original Xbox. But I don't see Microsoft doing that again for the One. I bet they'll eventually go the same way Sony is going. Just repurchase the previous generation game(s) you want off the Live marketplace.

Cainne Chapel wrote...
I find it funny how people dislike EA so much (And lord knows why...) they blame OTHER MAJOR corporations missteps on them.

Yeah I get a little sick of the "EA is the devil" view myself. Never understood the hate some people have for Ea.

Again, this is AFAIK but SOME games worked great.
The vast majority however had serious issues, including graphical glitches, framerate problems and more.

[Shadow Storm]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Raiden Storm wrote...

As long as EA is calling the shots i hope they stay dead and i am no fan of Bioware anymore either. Memories were good but that is about it for me. It is funny how EA was likely one of the driving forces behind the communist Xbox policies much like the silly state of ME3. Big surprise it royally backfired just like ME3 proving once again you do not shove crap down gamers throats and expect them to stand idle.

I hope they learn from their mistakes but when money is involved EA will always be there with their grubby hands outstretched. If you like current gen titles then keep your console just in case. There is rumors that PS4 will allow you to play PS3 games using Gakai tech later down the track but as for using your current disks that is not possible. Guess the whole "entitled" thing must ****** off Bioware about now. People are now turning around and saying "kiss my ass i will take my money elsewhere". lol

I'm sorry but what does anything microsoft does or doesn't do have ANYTHING to do with EA?

I find it funny how people dislike EA so much (And lord knows why...) they blame OTHER MAJOR corporations missteps on them.

Also as a long time bioware fan i happened to love ME 3 so... you seem very angry for no reason.

If you have no idea what a big publisher like EA has to do with the push to charge people for pre-owned games then it would be impossible to explain to you. As a long time fan Of the Mass Effect series I and many in the greater community have big reservations about our favourite franchise being turned into a EA cash grab. Bioware and EA couldn't even give us a satisfying end to our respective journey's because they were too busy planning cash grab DLC. -.-

To each their own. If you liked it then fine but you can not deny that the slight mention of ME3 in true gaming circles will cause controversy and often hatred every time.
<_<

[Sanunes]

Raiden Storm wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Raiden Storm wrote...

As long as EA is calling the shots i hope they stay dead and i am no fan of Bioware anymore either. Memories were good but that is about it for me. It is funny how EA was likely one of the driving forces behind the communist Xbox policies much like the silly state of ME3. Big surprise it royally backfired just like ME3 proving once again you do not shove crap down gamers throats and expect them to stand idle.

I hope they learn from their mistakes but when money is involved EA will always be there with their grubby hands outstretched. If you like current gen titles then keep your console just in case. There is rumors that PS4 will allow you to play PS3 games using Gakai tech later down the track but as for using your current disks that is not possible. Guess the whole "entitled" thing must ****** off Bioware about now. People are now turning around and saying "kiss my ass i will take my money elsewhere". lol

I'm sorry but what does anything microsoft does or doesn't do have ANYTHING to do with EA?

I find it funny how people dislike EA so much (And lord knows why...) they blame OTHER MAJOR corporations missteps on them.

Also as a long time bioware fan i happened to love ME 3 so... you seem very angry for no reason.

If you have no idea what a big publisher like EA has to do with the push to charge people for pre-owned games then it would be impossible to explain to you. As a long time fan Of the Mass Effect series I and many in the greater community have big reservations about our favourite franchise being turned into a EA cash grab. Bioware and EA couldn't even give us a satisfying end to our respective journey's because they were too busy planning cash grab DLC. -.-

To each their own. If you liked it then fine but you can not deny that the slight mention of ME3 in true gaming circles will cause controversy and often hatred every time.
<_<

So, unless I bash EA and Mass Effect 3's ending I am not in a "true gaming circle"?

I don't see how Mass Effect was turned into a cash grab, if anything I consider Gamestop to be far worse on the exploiting gamers front for how their "Recycled Games Policy" works.  If you want to talk about cash grab, I consider Dragon Age 2 be a cash grab, Mass Effect 3 took a direction people didn't like only at the very end.

[Sanunes]

10110001110100 wrote...

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Not true. The ending of ME3 was flawed, true, but that was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Right from the opening sequence you have Sheppard replying to questions with no player input, and a character it's implied you're best of buds with with no clue who he is or what his deal is. The game had only one hub world and the exploration that made the previous games so enchanting was all but obliterated. For some reason you can no longer holster your weapon or keep your equipped weapon during cutscenes. Choice and consequence, the pillars the franchise were built on were abandoned rendering HUGE decisions of past games irrlelevant (seriously, I had to go sleep on the kill/free the Rachni queen one and for what?) Characters became more one dimensional, less ambiguous, and the overall story jumped the shark. While it streched credulity that Cerberus had the kind of resources they did in ME2 it was still feasable. That they posed a bigger threat than the Reapers (I mean that you spent more time dealing with their bull****) in ME3 was ridiculous. You should have had the option to join them! The dialogue wheel, when you were allowed use it (*coughautodialouguecough*) was grossly simplified, and Shep becoming weepy/sentimental over people the player may or may not have given a **** about was bull****. Whatever the official line is content was OBVIOUSLY stripped from the game to sell as DLC, to the detriment of the game overall. The whole thing felt rushed and half-assed. 

I'm not saying there weren't great bits. Tuchanka, in particular, showed how great this game could have been with a bit more care and development time. In a way, that makes it worse. If the game was just **** it wouldn't be worth wasting time or thought on but something about the wasted potential RANKLES.

Anyhoo. TL/DR: The ending, while insultingly rubbish drivel is not the only flaw in ME3.

Ps. Getting het up online as to whether some other anonymous nerd see you as t3h L33t H4XX0r is embarrasing. For you, I mean. You should be embarrased by that.

Don't get me wrong, I know there are flaws with the game but at the same time any game I have played over the last few years has been gutted by their publishers, for all the issues people have with Mass Effect 3 I can see in other games and they are being championed as fine.  I think Bethesda is just as bad with Skyrim or Ubisoft with Assassin's Creed 3, so if I am to pass judgement on BioWare I would have to pass judgement on those games as well.

As far as the holster animation it was simply removed because they needed the find more memory to fit the game into the consoles and they removed it from the game. It was never said, but I believe that is why the hacking games were removed as well.  No matter what choices for stuff that was removed from the game there probably were discussions based on why and is there some way to save it.  I can't find the post, but it was made during the open beta phase of the game before launch.

PS: I wan't angry, just wanted it to show how silly those comments were.  I guess my tone was just a little more aggressive then I intended.

[thehomeworld]

This trilogy ME - ME3 won't work on the next gen consoles. ME4 and after however will work.

[Shadow Storm]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

On-topic: I can imagine Microsoft and Sony offering them online for streaming because of the popularity of the ME title. As others have written before, they will not work on the next-generation consoles because of the different architecture.

Off-topic: I laugh at the people bashing EA for the ending without stopping to think for 2 seconds that such a negative outcry would go against the interests of the publisher.

Plus, EA only sets the deadlines.  It was confirmed that Bioware was given complete creative control over ME3.

Hense in my statement i said i also am not a fan of Bioware either. Everyone is well aware that it was Bioware who ****ed us over story wise. In regards to EA everywhere you go people will always belittle EA. Do you ever stop to wonder why that is? So many people hate or dislike EA and yet you think there is no justification for such? So many people do not dislike or hate publishers because they did nothing wrong.

EA has become somewhat of a joke in the gaming world. You have companies out there that have a genuine love in the projects they create and the same for the fans that support them. (i once thought this of Bioware but they have lost a lot of respect in my eyes) It certainly doesn't hurt to make money on the side but EA on the other hand... every single title they publish is nothing more then one big cash grab.

It is always the same story same old generic storylines with a twist, content on the disk deliberately withheld so they can charge you $20 for each portion withheld when it was on the disk in the first place. I invite you to go on Youtube and watch the parodies regarding EA i am sure you will get a laugh or 2 out of them.
<_<

Modifié par Raiden Storm, 26 juin 2013 - 02:08 .