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[FaWa]

Isn't Cassandra a little too important to be following you around?

[Boss Fog]

FaWa wrote...

Isn't Cassandra a little too important to be following you around?

Only assuming the writers can't come up with a valid enough reason for her to follow the PC's lead; which I'm sure they can.

[Welsh Inferno]

I'd say its pretty damn likely they are companions. I think Cassandra will be a two-handed sword warrior though.

[Boss Fog]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

I'd say its pretty damn likely they are companions. I think Cassandra will be a two-handed sword warrior though.

I hope you mean dual wielding not two handed.  Everything we've seen on her points to her using two weapons.

[Boss Fog]

double post

Modifié par TelvanniWarlord, 20 juin 2013 - 06:41 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Tootles FTW wrote...

I would be happy to have the both of them. Wonder who will be the obligatory healer mage? Surely they'd be next in line.

Yeah, there would of course be a healer. But their identiy is much harder to fathom, since none of the characters revealed yet is even a Mage. It could be Maevaris, but I think she'd more likely be a Blood Mage (or at least, a "Black Mage" in the traditional RPG term) instead, i.e. filling the same character niche as Morrigan and Merrill.

[iOnlySignIn]

Merkit91 wrote...

Agree with OP about Varric, but: Cassandra is a fighter of some renown, "right hand of the Divine", while the PC at the very beginning of the game will most likely be just a recruit (or even a complete stranger). I'm not so sure why would she follow our character instead of assuming command herself?

FaWa wrote...

Isn't Cassandra a little too important to be following you around?

First of all, it's quite possible that the PC is not a green recruit this time. "Inquisitor" does not sound like a title given to recruits to me.

Moreover, it is possible that Cassandra will at least start out as some sort of a mentor (that turns in to MentorShip later) character, kind of like Bastila in KOTOR1.

Also she doesn't look very tanky to me, more lke a DPS-warrior or even a rogue. The "Grey Warden" character from "follower customization" blog entry looks more like a true tank with shield, heavy armor and all that stuff.

She could be a unique Dual Wield Warrior who can also tank. I think it's better in RPGs for followers to have unique specializations which are not accessible to the PC.

Anyway, in all in game scenes (DA2 and DA3) she is seen wearing heavy armor. And she doesn't really have the personality of a Rogue IMO.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 20 juin 2013 - 06:56 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Filament wrote...

Again? I don't fancy having the same companion two games in a row for different protagonists, even if Varric was the best companion in DA2.

/answeringquestionnotdirectedatme

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

As much as I like Varric,No.I don't want him as a companion

I like to think he's unique so the rules don't apply to him.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 20 juin 2013 - 06:55 .

[Nethalf]

Tank theory's logical, Cassandra-first theory's not so much. There's always more than one warrior-class companion, and you always free to use two-handed weapon guy as a tank. Both Sten and Fenris joined to us early, too.

Sure, shield guy joins even earlier but there's no proof Cassandra would be a classic tank with a shield. I'd say she wouldn't. In fact, I think she'll be the third warrior with two kickass swords :happy:

Modifié par Nethalf, 20 juin 2013 - 06:55 .

[Welsh Inferno]

TelvanniWarlord wrote...

I hope you mean dual wielding not two handed. Everything we've seen on her points to her using two weapons.

No.

I base what I said on what BW tend to do with companions in the past. They tend to have 3 warrior companions, 1 tank, two dps. In DA:O Alistair/Loghain is the tank, Sten & Oghren are two-handers. In DA2 Aveline is the tank, Fenris & Carver were the two-handers. So based on what we know so far I see it as Cullen will be the tank, Cassandra & someone else will wield two handed swords. Theres also this.

Not that I'm against dual-wielding returning for warriors. My Warden was a DWW 

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 20 juin 2013 - 06:58 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Nethalf wrote...

Tank theory's logical, Cassandra-first theory's not so much. There's always more than one warrior-class companion, and you always free to use two-handed weapon guy as a tank. Both Sten and Fenris joined to us early, too.

Fair point, but both Sten and Fenris are optional companions. And Fenris is actually the last companion you can be introduced to in DA2. I don't see Cassandra as being an optional companion to be honest.

Sure, shield guy joins even earlier but there's no proof Cassandra would be a classic tank with a shield. I'd say she wouldn't. In fact, I think she'll be the third warrior with two kickass swords :happy:

Sure, but she can still tank with two swords. Like I said, she could have a unique fighting style which is great.

[iOnlySignIn]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Theres also this.

That seems more like a longsword than a great sword to me. 

Also, Cassandra with Sword and Shield:

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 20 juin 2013 - 07:03 .

[Black Jimmy]

 Am I the only one who doesn't want Varric to come back as a companion?
Him and Hawke were besties. He can't cheat on him with The Inquisitor.

[Welsh Inferno]

Not to me. The hilt looks huge. A guy next to her has the same sword and it looks rather big compared to him. Honestly they could make her any type of warrior and I'd be fine with it, she seems someone who is skilled in multiple ways of fighting. I just see her being a 2H based on the pattern of previous games.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 20 juin 2013 - 07:11 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Black Jimmy wrote...

 Am I the only one who doesn't want Varric to come back as a companion?
Him and Hawke were besties. He can't cheat on him with The Inquisitor.

What if Hawke is dead. 



And Varric is out to avenge Hawke.

"My name is Varric Tethras. You killed Hawke. Prepare to die."

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 20 juin 2013 - 07:12 .

[Nethalf]

iOnlySignIn wrote...
Fair point, but both Sten and Fenris are optional companions. And Fenris is actually the last companion you can be introduced to in DA2. I don't see Cassandra as being an optional companion to be honest.

Aveline was optional, too. And if I remember correctly, there's a way to get Fenris to the party before Isabela or even Anders/

iOnlySignIn wrote...
Sure, but she can still tank with two swords. Like I said, she could have a unique fighting style which is great.

Good point, but I think Cullen or other classic shield dude (there're some rumors about orlesian chevallier in the party, aren't they?) will join us first.

[Black Jimmy]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Black Jimmy wrote...

 Am I the only one who doesn't want Varric to come back as a companion?
Him and Hawke were besties. He can't cheat on him with The Inquisitor.

What if Hawke is dead. 



And Varric is out to avenge Hawke.

"My name is Varric Tethras. You killed Hawke. Prepare to die."

Let's have Inigo Montoya as a companion in his place.
And I'd hate to have Hawke killed off offscreen

Nethalf wrote...
Aveline was optional, too. And if I remember correctly, there's a way to get Fenris to the party before Isabela or even Anders/

No, Aveline isn't optional. Fenris and Isabela are though. And yeah, you can get Fenris before them I think.

Modifié par Black Jimmy, 20 juin 2013 - 07:24 .

[LolaLei]

You're probably right about Cassandra, although you're forgetting that she's a seeker and could equally be as likely as Cullen to be anti-mage. My thoughts are that regardless of who the tank is, be it Cassandra, Cullen or someone completely new they'd be required to put their biases and grudges aside for the sake of saving Thedas from this veil rip anyway.

As for Varric, I still can't decide if I think he'll be a companion or just a npc/cameo. I got the impression that the returning characters were picked for the trailer mainly to show us what the Frostbite engine can do to characters physical appearance whilst still keeping that familiarity, which was nice to see since the game looks so different to anything we've witnessed from the DA games so far.

Modifié par LolaLei, 20 juin 2013 - 07:36 .

[Nethalf]

Black Jimmy wrote...
No, Aveline isn't optional. Fenris and Isabela are though. And yeah, you can get Fenris before them I think.

Act 1, two Hawks are begging Bartrand to let them join the expedition, awesome Varric's doing some awesome stuff, then some chit chat is coming, blahblahblah your friend Aveline is in the Viscount's Keep blahblahblah, aaaand Varric is in the party.

But after that Hawke is free to do what he wants. Aveline's not necessary for that, there's an option to not walk to the Keep for some time. So we can refuse recruiting Aveline first.

[iOnlySignIn]

LolaLei wrote...

You're probably right about Cassandra, although you're forgetting that she's a seeker and could equally be as likely as Cullen to be anti-mage. 

She represents the Divine. The Divine is actually as pro-Mage as her position would allow, and a little more.

Cassandra also becomes a Hawke fan even if Hawke is Mage and choose the Mage Ending.

As for Varric, I still can't decide if I think he'll be a companion or just a npc/cameo. I got the impression that the returning characters were picked for the trailer mainly to show us what the Frostbite engine can do to characters physical appearance whilst still keeping that familiarity, which was nice to see since the game looks so different to anything we've witnessed from the DA games so far.

I think Varric will have plenty of dialogue whether he's companion or not - it's just the best way to tell us more about Hawke. But you have a good point with the trailer character choices.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 20 juin 2013 - 07:42 .

[Nethalf]

Interesting. I'm in Leliana team and I suppose both Cassandra and Varric are Leli's competitors for the spot in the party. My point is there's no place for two Divine's agents (or any two companions belonged to the same organization) and no place for two archers.

So I just hope Cass and Varric won't be our teammates. It'll give a chance to Leliana

[azarhal]

Nethalf wrote...

Good point, but I think Cullen or other classic shield dude (there're some rumors about orlesian chevallier in the party, aren't they?) will join us first.

And everyone forget about the Grey Warden with a sword&shield used as a "standing in" companion in the follower's customization blog (along with a unnamed Seeker that we all know is Cassandra).

LolaLei wrote...

I got the impression that the returning
characters were picked for the trailer mainly to show us what the
Frostbite engine can do to characters physical appearance whilst still
keeping that familiarity, which was nice to see since the game looks so
different to anything we've witnessed from the DA games so far.

The dev have been saying before DA2 was even released that they wanted Cassandra to play a major role in DA3. I don't think her scenes were just meant to show familiarity. Especially, when 2 of them do not allow us to see her properly and are mostly "what the hell is going on?".

There is also this "concept art" (No idea who's the other guy, that litho came with the World of Thedas limited edition...that's where I took the pic).

Modifié par azarhal, 20 juin 2013 - 08:00 .

[dekkerd]

Nethalf wrote...

Interesting. I'm in Leliana team and I suppose both Cassandra and Varric are Leli's competitors for the spot in the party. My point is there's no place for two Divine's agents (or any two companions belonged to the same organization) and no place for two archers.

So I just hope Cass and Varric won't be our teammates. It'll give a chance to Leliana

leliana is only shown as dual wield in da2, regardless of dao build. And while she and cass represent the divine, no reason they can't have very different opinions on how to reach the desired goal. 

[LobselVith8]

Xilizhra wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

It looks like you put a lot of thought into this, but I hope Cassandra and Varric aren't mandatory companions. I'm hoping it's similar to Leliana and Sten, where you have the option to recruit them or refuse them.

You don't want Varric? 

Depends on the kind of protagonist that I play, and the kind of man Varric is when we meet him again.