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[Xilizhra]

Not that it matters - the Aequatarians can turn against the Liberatarians to help close the rifts, or they can die with them in my playthru.

May you have the chance for neither.

[The Hierophant]

Xilizhra wrote...

Not that it matters - the Aequatarians can turn against the Liberatarians to help close the rifts, or they can die with them in my playthru.

May you have the chance for neither.

hater

[Xilizhra]

The Hierophant wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Not
that it matters - the Aequatarians can turn against the Liberatarians
to help close the rifts, or they can die with them in my playthru.

May you have the chance for neither.

hater

Hardly. If that's an option in-game, it means that the Circle revolution will be stoppable by the player and thus be less important in future games because of imports. I do not want this, hence MN's request is not compatible with my own desires.

[The Hierophant]

Xilizhra wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Not
that it matters - the Aequatarians can turn against the Liberatarians
to help close the rifts, or they can die with them in my playthru.

May you have the chance for neither.

hater

Hardly. If that's an option in-game, it means that the Circle revolution will be stoppable by the player and thus be less important in future games because of imports. I do not want this, hence MN's request is not compatible with my own desires.

You should wish upon a shooting star that DAI's story is even more linear than DA2's, as your desire would be screwed if there are divergent choices, story paths, and consequences.

[Xilizhra]

The Hierophant wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Not
that it matters - the Aequatarians can turn against the Liberatarians
to help close the rifts, or they can die with them in my playthru.

May you have the chance for neither.

hater

Hardly. If that's an option in-game, it means that the Circle revolution will be stoppable by the player and thus be less important in future games because of imports. I do not want this, hence MN's request is not compatible with my own desires.

You should wish upon a shooting star that DAI's story is even more linear than DA2's, as your desire would be screwed if there are divergent choices, story paths, and consequences.

Oh, I'm sure there can be some. I'm just not enthused about it being for this one.

[Medhia Nox]

@Xilizhra: Noted, but my Inquisition won't be about the mage rebellion - or the Templar genocidal temper tantrum.

They'll bend, or I'll break them.

Without any bias to make you unhappy, I genuinely think you're going to be unhappy in Inquisition Xilizhra. The game is not solely about the rebellion.

I actually think there's a big chance of things getting much darker for mages because of the rebellion.

That being said - I'd love for you to get your Magetopia - and for me to get my storyline - though I do recognize they're not compatible.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 25 octobre 2013 - 04:35 .

[Xilizhra]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Xilizhra: Noted, but my Inquisition won't be about the mage rebellion - or the Templar genocidal temper tantrum.

They'll bend, or I'll break them.

Without any bias to make you unhappy, I genuinely think you're going to be unhappy in Inquisition Xilizhra. The game is not solely about the rebellion.

I actually think there's a big chance of things getting much darker for mages because of the rebellion.

That being said - I'd love for you to get your Magetopia - and for me to get my storyline - though I do recognize they're not compatible.

I am entirely confident that the templars will not win. And the mages might not start nationbuilding right away, but, if only by default, the revolution will be at least partially sucessful.

[Hellion Rex]

@Xilizhra I am most curious. Are you more excited about the Mages vs Templar battle in DAI or the the whole veil tear thing? A mixture of both perhaps? I am curious to see if this Veil tear situation would somehow affect the fate of the Mages vs Templars, especially considering Sandal's prophecy and all.

[Medhia Nox]

@Xilizhra: I said nothing about Templar victory (actually, the opposite), but I'm curious what makes you so sure?

[Lotion Soronarr]

I certanly hope Xil doesn't get her mage utopia. Because that would vindicate the pro-mage worldviews. There is no "both endings are possible here".
Since the pro-templars and pro-mages have vastly different convictions, endings can confirm or break those convictions.

[Medhia Nox]

I don't believe either of them is going to win.

I think demon bands will be hunting down mages - and large groups of mages will be consumed by demons (children first) and mages will find themselves battling demons as well as Templars.

While the Templars will be facing lyrium withdrawl, secular militaries and - of course - demons.

I truly believe the belief in a Magetopia is a total delusion.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 25 octobre 2013 - 04:58 .

[Reaverwind]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I certanly hope Xil doesn't get her mage utopia. Because that would vindicate the pro-mage worldviews. There is no "both endings are possible here".
Since the pro-templars and pro-mages have vastly different convictions, endings can confirm or break those convictions.

Utopian ending? zzzzzzzzzzz Let the mages achieve a pyrrhic victory.

Modifié par Reaverwind, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:00 .

[Medhia Nox]

After Inquisition - when both factions are defeated - the Inquisitor won't even get a chance to decide what happens to either faction.

This way - Bioware can break both factions apart and redesign them.

[cjones91]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I am entirely confident that the templars will not win.

It'd be a pretty bad copout if mages only could win the conflict.

But nothing will change if the templars win either,the mages have to win in some victory in order for the story to progress.

[cjones91]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

I truly believe the belief in a Magetopia is a total delusion.

Especially in a setting like Dragon Age

It can happen....with a never ending struggle between mundanes and mages for control.

[Xilizhra]

@Xilizhra I am most curious. Are you more excited about the Mages vs Templar battle in DAI or the the whole veil tear thing? A mixture of both perhaps? I am curious to see if this Veil tear situation would somehow affect the fate of the Mages vs Templars, especially considering Sandal's prophecy and all.

Both, actually.

@Xilizhra: I said nothing about Templar victory (actually, the opposite), but I'm curious what makes you so sure?

Narrative flow, a quote I recall about wanting to get the mages out of the Circles for story purposes, general popularity.

Because that would vindicate the pro-mage worldviews.

Oh, horror.

After Inquisition - when both factions are defeated - the Inquisitor won't even get a chance to decide what happens to either faction.

This way - Bioware can break both factions apart and redesign them.

The mages don't need to be defeated to be redesigned.

I don't believe either of them is going to win.

I think demon bands will be hunting down mages - and large groups of mages will be consumed by demons (children first) and mages will find themselves battling demons as well as Templars.

While the Templars will be facing lyrium withdrawl, secular militaries and - of course - demons.

I truly believe the belief in a Magetopia is a total delusion.

I doubt something wholly apocalyptic would happen at this stage. And, of course, the demon problem will likely be solved by the end.

[cjones91]

Morocco Mole wrote...

cjones91 wrote...
But nothing will change if the templars win either,the mages have to win in some victory in order for the story to progress.

How so? 

Everything had been leading up to the mages breaking away from the Chantry ever since DAO,all of the events in the story would be rendered null and void if the templars win.

Modifié par cjones91, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:07 .

[cjones91]

Morocco Mole wrote...

cjones91 wrote...
Everything had been leading up the mages breaking away from the Chantry ever since DAO,all of the events in the story would be rendered null and void if the templars win.

No it wouldn't you silly goose.

Yes it would,returning to the status quo would be undoing everything Bioware had been setting up so far within the story.

Modifié par cjones91, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:11 .

[dragonflight288]

cjones91 wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

I am entirely confident that the templars will not win.

It'd be a pretty bad copout if mages only could win the conflict.

But nothing will change if the templars win either,the mages have to win in some victory in order for the story to progress.

If I was a writer of the game, and wanted to make the game as good as possible while also making it as replayable as possible (thereby increasing sales and enjoyment,) I wouldn't have the leadership of either faction be extremists, but instead passionate about where they stand, and their stance completely contradicts the other leader's position to the point of violence, and the gamer in turn could agree or disagree.

I would also have the Inquistor not get involved, directly at least, with either side except in the cases where either side helps/hinders the Inquisitors own goals.

And then I'd have the qunari or the darkspawn attack, and the Inquisitor has to somehow force a truce between the them in order to fight the thread, even if that truce is temporary, but ultimately we would still be forced to eliminate all the extremist factions of both/one side(s). That would leave the ending ambiguous enough for replayability and offer the gamer enough choice about the ending and who comes out ahead by the end, and that would make it easier to write the next game/novel.

[cjones91]

Morocco Mole wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

It can happen....with a never ending struggle between mundanes and mages for control.

Please no more mage vs mundane stories. I think DA2 was enough.

But it's likely to happen if the mages win.The mundanes would go to extreme methods to control them which would result in bloody conflicts that last years.