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[Nightdragon8]

Silfren wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

But it doesn't really affect the game in any meaningful way at all if the game can have a customizable protagonist. White Hawke is gone as soon as you reach the character creation screen. If there is a default character he has to have one race or other. Hawke happens to have the most common one in his country.

And I can't imagine that I would have been bothered if default Hawke had been darker skinned. I almost always customize my Player Characters in any case, if I didn't like how he or she looked then I wouldn't have had to deal with it. Most of the time I never see the character used in markening as "My Hakwe/Shepard/Warden" to begin with.

No, they don't.  We could have been shown a character in full armor that completely hid their face.  We could have seen a perspective similar to the opening scenes in Skyrim.  If it was necessary to show a default Hawke prior to the chargen screen, there WERE other ways of handling it rather than creating a problematic scene that many PoC players would have received as a slap in the face. 

so... your offened that they used a white person as there defualt hawke and you think its wrong because... whatever?

Also the REASON they didn't use fully hidden face is because putting someone inside a helmet and "haveing words come out" is very cheep and may have ended up hurting sales not helping.

All I can ask is, "What color is Santa Cluse in X contru and if they come back with anything else but "White, because Saint Nocolies was from folklore" and if they say any other color then I think the point would have been proven.

also why the F#$#%@$ does it matter if the defualt Hawke was white? Look at the demographics of Candia (which is where the game was made) look at the top 5 ethinc groups, all white. So why would they make a white "default" protag cause the majority of the population is white. Thats marketing 101. Why do you think most commercials in America are of White people, agian more white people live here. Now go to mexico... they don't use white people in there commericals, as a "white" person i should get offended that they don't represit my color in there comercals. Of coruse I wont because, most of the people in Mexico aren't white.

I mean I shoudl also get offended at what Chinese, or Japannese or X,Y,Z, but I don't cuase I don't see a problem with it. you use the color that will hit the most people.

So can we please please drop the color issue on this thread it has 0 baring on the game. cause no matter what #@$#@$ color you are your still HUMAN. And I could honestly care less if your purple with green pokadots all over, I would ask if that was really your skin color, and if you answered yes, While I will still be shocked and "werieded out" because of it, I wont treat you like a lepper and keep my distance.

[AlanC9]

Like Allan said upthread, using a voiced protagonist isn't the whole problem. It sounds like the writers don't want to do elves and dwarves unless they spend the tine to write lines that respect their different histories and social statuses. Of course, a game that involves the protagonist's family will make this much worse.

Modifié par AlanC9, 25 juin 2013 - 06:32 .

[Allan Schumacher]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...


Not having player races means that we put something else in instead (and unfortunately, it's not like we can make a 1:1 match for which feature that means stays in.

So what did you put instead in DA2? I saw nothing that couldn´t be done with elf or dwarf with only some writing changes. The "story only works with a human PC" excuse doesn´t work, especially in a game where any attempt at verisimilitude died the moment we where in KW with a mage in the party.

I find it interesting that in a post where I effectively say you can't expect me to say what is or is not in the the game as a result, you then ask me what is in the game as a result of the decision.

Are you of the assumption that people were just sitting idle because they didn't have multiple races to make?

KOTOR was a different case though, it was an established world where the heros where overwhelmingly human with bit parts and support roles for other species, (less so in the EU, but the films are what most people would have been familiar with) Dragon age was claiming to the spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate (and Origins succeeded in my opinion in living up to that legacy) which had multiple species playing major roles as it's established flavour.  I'm not overly bothered by a human only  main charcter, but I can see why people would be.

I literally stated "it's different because in DAO you were given player races so I can concede the feeling that it feels like something was taken away from you."

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 25 juin 2013 - 05:08 .

[SeismicGravy]

Silfren wrote...


No, they don't.  We could have been
shown a character in full armor that completely hid their face.  We
could have seen a perspective similar to the opening scenes in Skyrim. 
If it was necessary to show a default Hawke prior to the chargen
screen, there WERE other ways of handling it rather than creating a
problematic scene that many PoC players would have received as a slap in
the face. 

Think you'll find that most people don't give a damn about what color the protagonist is, since most people never bother with the default face anyway.

And just WTF is going on here anyway? Why are so many people here annoyed about playing as a human?  You want to play as a dwarf or elf or whatever? THEN PAY FOR THE EXTRA VOICE ACTORS AND MATERIALS YOURSELF. I mean seriously, throwing your toys out of the pram just because your charater dosen't have pointed ears?


Jesus.

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 25 juin 2013 - 05:31 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

And yes, you are correct that the fact that the defaults are our big numbers gives indication that some people just didn't bother changing it. This doesn't really mean anything, however, since those people will presumably still be content playing as a human going forward (i.e. they will be disinclined to care at all).

As an experiment, the next time you offer race choices you should randomise the default during character creation.  See what that does to usage data.

[Melca36]

Nefla wrote...

DA2 could have worked with any race with human, city elf, or surface dwarf fleeing the blight as refugees. Instead of being "nobles" which was never actually explored anyway they could have gained power through the underworld, becoming rich and influential and untouchable. They still could have defeated the Qunari to protect their home, or that could have BEEN the way they gained respect and influence. Having a mage in the family to try to get you to care about mages was unnecessary and didn't work. If they wanted us to care about mages or Templars they should have written both sides with depth, logic, emotion other than bat**** insane, etc...Saying "oh this story only works with a human protagonist, sorry" doesn't really work because they are the ones choosing to write the story that way, and in DA2 the story was boring, disjointed, and just downright bad. Nothing would have been lost changing that particular story.

As far as the human races thing, I don't see why we had to play the default at all in the intro. Also the two versions were too close to each other. We should have been given the CC before the game starts and the story version of Hawke should have been the one we created and had giant, crazy ornate weapons and armor and been doing things way more powerful and exaggerated.

They will NEVER make a game where you only play as an elf or dwarf. They might bring races back one day but the fact remains 80% played humans

And as for the intro in DA2....that was Varric's way of telling the story and yes I agree it was a HUGE mistake for the game to be introduced that way

[Melca36]

SeismicGravy wrote...

Silfren wrote...


No, they don't.  We could have been
shown a character in full armor that completely hid their face.  We
could have seen a perspective similar to the opening scenes in Skyrim. 
If it was necessary to show a default Hawke prior to the chargen
screen, there WERE other ways of handling it rather than creating a
problematic scene that many PoC players would have received as a slap in
the face. 

Think you'll find that most people don't give a damn about what color the protagonist is, since most people never bother with the default face anyway.

And just WTF is going on here anyway? Why are so many people here annoyed about playing as a human?  You want to play as a dwarf or elf or whatever? THEN PAY FOR THE EXTRA VOICE ACTORS AND MATERIALS YOURSELF. I mean seriously, throwing your toys out of the pram just because your charater dosen't have pointed ears?


Jesus.

Its become the trendy-fashionable thing to hate humans.  I played all the races and enjoyed them about equally (although I probably lean more towards City Elves than Dalish)

I played elves and dwarves in WOW and LOTR so it does not bother me to play humans and seeing how they are taking their time with the next game I have faith it will be a better game than DA2 was.

[LobselVith8]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

It's incidental to you, but it isn't to me. That's the point. Why does my non-white character need to be whitewashed in the telling of the Champion of Kirkwall? Whether it's Varric or the world at large, why does Hawke need to be depicted as white when he is supposed to be out character? You're basically telling me that everyone thinks my non-white Hawke was white, and that only adds to my frustration with this.

I find it disappointing.

On some level, it's still important to recognize that Unfortunate Implications are, in fact, unintended.

While it's unfortunate that you find it disappointing, and you're well within your right to feel that way (and to share it), when I see comments supposing just how little thought we give these sort of things, it genuinely disappoints me.

Yes, we'll screw things up from time to time and not do things as well done as we maybe definitely should have.  What you've effectively told me (and I'm sure this wasn't your intention, however), was that you would have been more satisfied with DAO's experience, if the Warden was just prescribed to be a white character, because it wouldn't have been as jarring to you.

That certainly wasn't my intention, Allan, and I appreciate you taking the time out to respond to me about this. Part of the frustration also comes from certain members of the fanbase who seem to take a "so what?" attitude to this, because feeling marginalized is something that has never effected them once in their lives.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

To say we "didn't give it much thought" makes me innately defensive, akin to calling us lazy.  I'd much rather have a situation where our scene with Hawke pre-prologue shows a white Hawke, while allowing full customization after the fact, than to have just prescribed Hawke to be a white character.

Yes, it's something that could have been done differently.  We could have not had the pre-chargen scene at all, we could have covered up Hawke, we could have done a lot of different things.

But while you mention that you find it surprising that you even need to explain your perspective, in doing so you actually demonstrate that you're not understanding In Exile's perspective, either.

It ends up leading me to take on Devil's Advocate simply because it gets to a point where one is being overly difficult (and in the case, you both are coming across as obstinate).

I think you mean Jedi Master of Orion. And Jedi's argument is that everyone simply assumes that my Hawke is white, regardless of his actual skin color, which is why I take issue with it. It's not the idea that there are other ways to look at it; it's that I'm being told that Varric is telling the story of a white Hawke because everyone simply assumes that my non-white protagonist is really white.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Why do you think I would be accepting of the idea of Varric's tale making a non-white Champion of Kirkwall into a white Hawke?

Is Varric talking to you, or is he talking to Cassandra?  Are you unable to accept that Varric may be passing disdainful judgment on Cassandra, the Seekers, and the Chantry in general?

Why is it that you're assuming that Varric is telling the tale as it is, for your benefit?

I have previously addressed that this is how the story came across to me. I've also discussed how it came across to others as well - which is why I addressed Jedi Master of Orion's notion that people else where in Thedas really thought that Hawke was white.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

A constant theme I have seen with your interpretations the past page, is that they are taken to the extreme.  That Varric is telling the story to Cassandra (who is affiliated with an institution that you have made your opinion of quite clear), does not mean that he tells the story the same way to other people.  This is an assumption that you have created, with you filling in the gaps the same way that you find disdain with your assumption that "everyone" is filling in the gaps by assuming Hawke was white.

This reminds me of David Foster Wallace's "This is Water" talk, to where he goes into detail about how we're in control of how we choose to perceive events, particularly where we're lacking in the context to actually know what factors affected the decision.

It's difficult to really narrow down how uncomfortable it is to see entertainment constantly whitewash people who look like you. That's really the issue that I have with seeing a 'white' Hawke, when I didn't intend to create a white Hawke in the first place. Interpretations aside, we ultimately come down to the fact that I simply think this could have been avoided by allowing player custimization prior to the tale, thereby avoiding a default Hawke being part of the story automatically.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

So, in this sense, and this is unfortunate (and I'm not saying that this is your fault), you have defaulted into not only recognizing the Hawke prologue scene be an example of Unfortunate Implications, but you have also let your mind accept the reasoning in a way that makes you take even more offense to the Unfortunate Implications, and you share your disdain by reciprocating disdain towards myself and my colleagues.  It sucks that reality has put you into a spot where that is your default assumption (and no, that's not your fault), and yes we can continue to try to do better (and we even tried, such as attempting to make Hawke's family more reflective of your chargen, with mixed results).  I'm of the opinion that becoming adversarial about it, however, doesn't actually do much to help the situation - it has a great way of putting people on the defensive.

No, I can never truly understand what it means to be non-white (since I am white).  So maybe I'm just a giant ass talking out of my bum who can't understand your perspective, and it's up to you to read into my motivations for posting this and determine whether or not this post should be respected by you or not.

I'm sorry that the whole scene comes across so inappropriate for you.  But, please don't think that we're not trying because the steadfastness of your position coupled with some remarks you've made does as much to make me feel "I doubt anything we do will really make him happy... at which point is it worth our time trying to do so?" as it does "He has some interesting feedback that I hadn't considered."

I don't think you're not trying, Allan. I would hope that what I've said is feedback you would consider.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Before I read your posts (or maybe someone else's since your position isn't unique to you), you're right it was a conclusion I hadn't really considered.  In my mind, the whole pre chargen scene was always "pure make believe" so I definitely wouldn't have gone over it with nearly the discerning eye - but I view the whole scene (and whole game) differently because to me it started out as a bunch of stick figures on a napkin.  It doesn't exactly make me feel super awesome to learn about the mistake we made.  But what comes across as an attempt to shame me shifts my focus from "whoops..." to something else entirely, when really it's in your best interests to keep me on "whoops..."

It's not an attempt to shame anyone, and perhaps that's why some people feel so defensive when discussions like this transpire. It's difficult to put into words how it feels to be part of a society that constantly marginalizes you in entertainment, media, and other areas of life in general. Hearing posters retort, "Well, people just assume that your Hawke is white" simply adds to that frustration, because they don't understand where I'm coming from, and I'm not sure they ever will.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

So yeah, I'm sorry the chargen sequence makes you feel uncomfortable.  It's a very astute point, and not one that I had even considered during the entirety of development.  It's certainly something that I can take from this and learn going forward.  By the same token, would you say there are any ways to interpret Varric's pre-chargen depiction in a different way that is less alienating for you?  And if not, can the reasons only be purely external without any internal considerations at all?

I appreciate that you're willing to take what I've said into consideration going forward; that does mean a lot to me. And I'm sure there are other ways Varric's tale can be interpreted.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Anyways, I'm about to be late for Volleyball now.... so I need to kind of cut this off here. 

Thank you for the response, Allan.

[David7204]

Hoo Boy. Let me throw my two cents in here.

We need to get rid of this assumption that protagonists are white and male because Hollywood is white and male and developers are white and male and it's just 'while male privilege' of white people not recognizing anything but themselves. That's a very shallow, and frankly, rather lazy explanation of the phenomena.

It's a lot more complex than that.

Modifié par David7204, 25 juin 2013 - 05:48 .

[Allan Schumacher]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

And yes, you are correct that the fact that the defaults are our big numbers gives indication that some people just didn't bother changing it. This doesn't really mean anything, however, since those people will presumably still be content playing as a human going forward (i.e. they will be disinclined to care at all).

As an experiment, the next time you offer race choices you should randomise the default during character creation.  See what that does to usage data.

I find this an interesting idea.

[Plaintiff]

David7204 wrote...

Hoo Boy. Let me throw my two cents in here.

We need to get rid of this assumption that protagonists are white and male because Hollywood is white and male and developers are white and male and it's just 'while male privilege' of white people not recognizing anything but themselves. That's a very shallow, and frankly, rather lazy explanation of the phenomena.

It's a lot more complex than that.

Enlighten us, why don't you?

[Nefla]

Silfren wrote...
Think you'll find that most people don't give a damn about what color the protagonist is, since most people never bother with the default face anyway.

And just WTF is going on here anyway? Why are so many people here annoyed about playing as a human?  You want to play as a dwarf or elf or whatever? THEN PAY FOR THE EXTRA VOICE ACTORS AND MATERIALS YOURSELF. I mean seriously, throwing your toys out of the pram just because your charater dosen't have pointed ears?


Jesus.

Because humans were by far the most boring race and origin in DA:O and DA2 where you could only be human was boring in general, they didn't add anything that made up for the loss. I don't see why you would need a different VA for each race, swtor is voiced by class so a Sith Pureblood inquisitor will sound just like a Twi'lek inquisitor and it works perfectly fine.i would pay more for race options though, I would pay twice the price of a new game not to be stuck as human only again.

Modifié par Nefla, 25 juin 2013 - 06:14 .

[LPPrince]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

And yes, you are correct that the fact that the defaults are our big numbers gives indication that some people just didn't bother changing it. This doesn't really mean anything, however, since those people will presumably still be content playing as a human going forward (i.e. they will be disinclined to care at all).

As an experiment, the next time you offer race choices you should randomise the default during character creation.  See what that does to usage data.

I find this an interesting idea.

Don't forget though that the race being shown in marketing will have a HUGE effect on what people decide to go with.

[Giubba]

Nefla wrote...

Silfren wrote...
Think you'll find that most people don't give a damn about what color the protagonist is, since most people never bother with the default face anyway.

And just WTF is going on here anyway? Why are so many people here annoyed about playing as a human?  You want to play as a dwarf or elf or whatever? THEN PAY FOR THE EXTRA VOICE ACTORS AND MATERIALS YOURSELF. I mean seriously, throwing your toys out of the pram just because your charater dosen't have pointed ears?


Jesus.

Because humans were by far the most boring race and origin in DA:O and DA2 where you could only be human was boring in general, they didn't add anything that made up for the loss. I don't see why you would need a different VA for each race, swtor is voiced by class so a Sith Pureblood inquisitor will sound just like a Twi'lek inquisitor and it works perfectly fine.i would pay more for race options though, I would pay twice the price of a new game not to be stuck as human only again.

Point is that Human were by far the most used race in Origins .

/thread

[xAmilli0n]

Nefla wrote...

Because humans were by far the most boring race and origin in DA:O and DA2 where you could only be human was boring in general

That there sir or madam, is an opinion, not fact.  This thread really has gotten ridiculous.

[LinksOcarina]

Nefla wrote...

DA2 could have worked with any race with human, city elf, or surface dwarf fleeing the blight as refugees. Instead of being "nobles" which was never actually explored anyway they could have gained power through the underworld, becoming rich and influential and untouchable. They still could have defeated the Qunari to protect their home, or that could have BEEN the way they gained respect and influence. Having a mage in the family to try to get you to care about mages was unnecessary and didn't work. If they wanted us to care about mages or Templars they should have written both sides with depth, logic, emotion other than bat**** insane, etc...Saying "oh this story only works with a human protagonist, sorry" doesn't really work because they are the ones choosing to write the story that way, and in DA2 the story was boring, disjointed, and just downright bad. Nothing would have been lost changing that particular story.

That would require multiple story rewrites though, which changes the fundamentals of the plot presented in-game. And it is much easier to change the narrative over the plot

Origins worked as a simple story to tell for anyone because it was a basic, and vague plot; save the world from the blight, recruit allies however you wish. Dragon Age II was more specific, and frankly more focused as a story. That was one of Dragon Age II's strengths, but in terms of game mechanics it gave off a specific weakness people are against, which really shouldn't matter much in context. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 25 juin 2013 - 06:28 .

[FKA_Servo]

Rawgrim wrote...

Hawke is from Lothering. People are white in Ferelden. Simple as that.

I think it's worth noting that Hawke is a transplant. Maybe native Fereldens are predominantly white, but Leandra is an Amell from a large, cosmopolitan city. Her roots could really originate anywhere in Thedas. We never specifically learn where Malcom comes from. So really, Hawke's ethnicity is totally up to the player. Nothing in the game or the setting says s/he can't be an ethnic Rivaini, or Anders, or whatever.

Allan Schumacher wrote...

It reminds me of how little thought was put into players making a brown or black Warden since his family was always default white.

Ouch.

Allan,

You kinda glide right past this and address issues relating to this "default protagonist" stuff in DA2, but come on - this was a pretty massive oversight on Bioware's part with the human noble origin. Obviously, it must have occurred to you, since you addressed it in DA2 - fantastically, I would add - with Hawke's family.

Modifié par TommyServo, 25 juin 2013 - 06:30 .

[AlanC9]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

And yes, you are correct that the fact that the defaults are our big numbers gives indication that some people just didn't bother changing it. This doesn't really mean anything, however, since those people will presumably still be content playing as a human going forward (i.e. they will be disinclined to care at all).

As an experiment, the next time you offer race choices you should randomise the default during character creation.  See what that does to usage data.

Random race and face, right? That would be interesting.

[Melca36]

Nefla wrote...

Silfren wrote...
Think you'll find that most people don't give a damn about what color the protagonist is, since most people never bother with the default face anyway.

And just WTF is going on here anyway? Why are so many people here annoyed about playing as a human?  You want to play as a dwarf or elf or whatever? THEN PAY FOR THE EXTRA VOICE ACTORS AND MATERIALS YOURSELF. I mean seriously, throwing your toys out of the pram just because your charater dosen't have pointed ears?


Jesus.

Because humans were by far the most boring race and origin in DA:O and DA2 where you could only be human was boring in general, they didn't add anything that made up for the loss. I don't see why you would need a different VA for each race, swtor is voiced by class so a Sith Pureblood inquisitor will sound just like a Twi'lek inquisitor and it works perfectly fine.i would pay more for race options though, I would pay twice the price of a new game not to be stuck as human only again.

Thats your Opinion.   Some of us had enough imagination to enjoy them just as much as the other Origins.

[happy_daiz]

Giubba1985 wrote...
Point is that Human were by far the most used race in Origins .

/thread

I'm curious to know, and maybe it's already been discussed, how long of a window was data being collected on which race people played in DAO? And how many playthroughs counted?

I just started a new run of DAO (probably at least my 10th+, overall, as I played some on my husband's XBL profile before I got my own)...and am playing as a Dwarf for the first time.

DAO's been out for how many years now? Nearly 4 years, right?

Well, I'm sad. Sad that I didn't try out a Dwarf origin sooner. I had no idea what I was missing out on. I mean, I'd played as both flavors of Elves, and tried out all of the human origins more than once, but I never played as a Dwarf. I don't know why.

I wish I could go back in time and throw my hat into the Dwarf ring.

I'm noticing a lot of variances between NPC perceptions, as opposed to the Cousland origin I would normally find myself in (to marry Alistair, of course). Now I understand why people always made such a big deal over playing as a different race. Honestly, whenever I heard that argument, I thought it was a lot of hot air, but now I get it.

It may be common to start as a human, to get your bearings, but there are a lot of reactionary differences when you play a Dwarf, even past the 'origin'. The little things that matter, like being called an 'Exile' when going to Orzammar, or other NPCs recognizing that you can't use magic. These subtle nuances are more frequent and apparent in DAO than pretty much any other BW game that I've ever played.

Back to my original point/question, I'm guessing only the first playthrough counted, right? It would seem to make sense, as most of the time when I see numbers posted like that, I have to roll my eyes - because if it's not race being misrepresented, it's the gender of the pc. In all of my runs, I play as female, yet the numbers wouldn't seem to support that. If in 10 playthroughs out of 10, I'm female, shouldn't that carry a heavier weight than playing as one in my original playthrough? It doesn't seem to, though.  /rambling

Modifié par happy_daiz, 25 juin 2013 - 06:35 .

[LinksOcarina]

AlanC9 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

And yes, you are correct that the fact that the defaults are our big numbers gives indication that some people just didn't bother changing it. This doesn't really mean anything, however, since those people will presumably still be content playing as a human going forward (i.e. they will be disinclined to care at all).

As an experiment, the next time you offer race choices you should randomise the default during character creation.  See what that does to usage data.

Random race and face, right? That would be interesting.

I like this idea too. I wonder if it would create some sort of stir with the community if this is done...

[AlanC9]

TommyServo wrote...
You kinda glide right past this and address issues relating to this "default protagonist" stuff in DA2, but come on - this was a pretty massive oversight on Bioware's part with the human noble origin. Obviously, it must have occurred to you, since you addressed it in DA2 - fantastically, I would add - with Hawke's family.

Not just human noble. Dwarf noble's even worse, since Bhelen is a major character and Fergus is not. City elf's a problem too. I don't recall how the others play out.

I'm not sure oversight's the right word. I thought that making the families match the PC was on Bio's nice-to-have list the whole time.

Modifié par AlanC9, 25 juin 2013 - 06:42 .

[David7204]

The issues of featuring different races and genders and sexualities and whatnot are not just about the race and gender and sexuality itself. It's more about the perceptions that are tied to races, tied to genders, tied to sexualities.

We all have perceptions about this sort of thing. For gender at least, the only way to not have perceptions would be to strip any meaning from 'male' and 'female' in the first place, which would be absurd.

And as unpleasant as it may to be admit...those perceptions are legitimate. For example, when 90% of the engineer population is male, it's legitimate to perceive it as a male occupation. When 90% of say, strippers are female, it's legitimate to perceive it as a female...er...occupation. Whether it SHOULD be that way is something we can debate all day long, but the fact remains that it IS that way.

If white people are apprehensive about minorities, it's probably not because they just find anyone with darker skin ugly. It's far more likely that they associate a race with higher poverty. With lower education. With high rates of teen pregnancy and crime. Those and other reasons are why audiences might feel more comfortable with the default - a white protagonist.