To me it seems like there is a good setup for this series to have a successful transition into this genre. There is a large universe, diverse races, established power types and a large player base. I think it would be an interesting next step in the Mass Effect franchise, but what do you think? It would be cool if you could give reasoning behind your answer as opposed to "lolno".
Do you think Mass Effect could work as an MMORPG?
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:10
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No one knows what works for an MMO setting. There's no formula. People have been falling on their asses trying to figure that one out for awhile now. Relatively few successes.
Personally, I think they all suck, so I'd never get behind the idea.
Personally, I think they all suck, so I'd never get behind the idea.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:11
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No, MMO's are a bad idea.
They're expensive, risky, and usually failures. Extra credits did a good piece on the numerous challenges of making a good original MMO. The best you could realistically hope for is a WoW clone and... no thanks.
www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/the-future-of-mmos
They're expensive, risky, and usually failures. Extra credits did a good piece on the numerous challenges of making a good original MMO. The best you could realistically hope for is a WoW clone and... no thanks.
www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/the-future-of-mmos
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:18
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Mass Effect could easily be worked into a great MMO. Except remove the "easy" part.
Making an MMO is difficult, especially one based on a beloved IP like Mass Effect where roleplaying, story and teammates is a big part of the equastion. Not to mention the MMO scene has gotten a little stale, and there are few truly original ideas coming out of the industry.
I guess what I'm saying is that I think ME has the potential for an awesome MMO, but if they were to make that MMO today, it would just be a ToR/WoW ripoff without the innovation or daring needed to make it a truly great game.
Making an MMO is difficult, especially one based on a beloved IP like Mass Effect where roleplaying, story and teammates is a big part of the equastion. Not to mention the MMO scene has gotten a little stale, and there are few truly original ideas coming out of the industry.
I guess what I'm saying is that I think ME has the potential for an awesome MMO, but if they were to make that MMO today, it would just be a ToR/WoW ripoff without the innovation or daring needed to make it a truly great game.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:21
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The problem I see is not the setting - which would obviously be interesting for an MMO, in particular the different race options - but the gameplay. I think ME3's multiplayer is really fun, but can that be extrapolated to an MMO?
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:26
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CronoDragoon wrote...
The problem I see is not the setting
- which would obviously be interesting for an MMO, in particular the
different race options - but the gameplay. I think ME3's multiplayer is
really fun, but can that be extrapolated to an MMO?
If all they did was the competitive multiplayer, sure. I think it'd work easily. Although, I'd hardly call it Mass Effect if that's what it amounted to. Something like that could be skinned for just about any setting. The charm in all of their games (Mass Effect and otherwise) has always been the characters, story, etc.. I think what they did for ME3 (having a pretty fleshed out multiplayer element to supplement the main game) was the best route. Not a full blown online game.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:31
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I just hope they don't try to find it out.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:34
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I just hope they don't try to find it out.
It's bad enough they even tried ToR. The writing was on the wall already (for the genre, that is). EA has always wanted to be a big player in MMOs though, so they'll never give up trying. Maybe not with any current settings, but something. They merged the old Mythic and UO properties under Bioware, I think. There's always a chance they'll revist mmos.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:46
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Yeah, I can sort of see a ME MMO being like FF14, but I just felt that this franchise had potential along with the fact that EA has already made a decent MMO.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 04:53
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Yeah, I can sort of see a ME MMO being like FF14, but I just felt that this franchise had potential along with the fact that EA has already made a decent MMO.
Besides ToR, EA has made a few other decent MMOs (some underated ones people don't remember.. like Earth and Beyond), and acquired some good teams (Mythic and UO), but that still can be a waste of resources. None of them are on the level of WoW success for sure. They cost a lot, and few are profitable. I'd rather see more work on single player games.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 07:58
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I have yet to play a mmo that I would consider worthy of my time. SWTOR, was ok but it was hardly as ground breaking by even the worst bioware title.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 08:34
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Mass Effect setting could work as an MMO. If, of course, it would not be created by EAWare.
I think it could be interesting as a sanbox type, with terminus systems and lots of unclaimed planets.
Still, time window is short, 20 years, and ME3's ending completely screwed the setting. It also would be pointless to set this in said 20 years before ME3.
I think it could be interesting as a sanbox type, with terminus systems and lots of unclaimed planets.
Still, time window is short, 20 years, and ME3's ending completely screwed the setting. It also would be pointless to set this in said 20 years before ME3.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 08:45
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It would be a total failure
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 09:50
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The setting would work very well, but there is the question of why EA would attempt to cannibalise SWTOR's market. If it came down to a choice between them, I would imagine the Star Wars franchise would be the bigger money-spinner than Mass Effect.
As for if they actually did it, I could see a Horde/Alliance style thing with the Council and Terminus races working. Humans, salarians, asari & turians for the Council, quarians, batarians, vorcha and krogan for the Terminus. Maybe save the drell and geth for the first expansion pack.
As for if they actually did it, I could see a Horde/Alliance style thing with the Council and Terminus races working. Humans, salarians, asari & turians for the Council, quarians, batarians, vorcha and krogan for the Terminus. Maybe save the drell and geth for the first expansion pack.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 10:40
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It would totally depend on the design of the MMO.
1) Most MMO's are based on the existance of two competing factions. We don't have two such factions in the Mass Effect universe, so that simply wouldn't fly.
However, Mass Effect does have a gazillion fractions. Several big criminal organizations, even more small local gangs, dozens of corporations, lots of species and governments. And they all war and cooperate in various, everchanging compositions. One moment they share a similar goal, the next moment they compete for another goal. THAT is Mass Effect. Mass Effect is NOT Horde vs Alliance, Mass Effect is NOT Jedi vs Sith.
2) Players have different reasons for what they like about Mass Effect. Some love Mass Effect for the combat. Others love Mass Effect for the technology. There are people who love Mass Effect for the variety of species. People like Mass Effect for its politics, the backstabbing, the romance, the roleplay, the story arc(s).
Basically, I don't see the Mass Effect universe as a suitable universe for a WoW-type 2-faction MMO. I do find it extremely suitable for a more sandboxed MMO. Crossbreed EVE, SWG and STO, maybe even a sprinkle of Second Life, and we're headed somewhat in the right direction.
Impossible? No. A tremendous task? Definitely! Though I'd love to see it happen, I don't even dare to say it would be profitable, given the costs involved. But I'm talking about what would truly be the next generation of MMO's, breaking the molds entirely and make a really interactive world. Sure, there would still be themepark features, quests, raids and everything, but the emphasize wouldn't be placed with them, but would be placed on your character instead.
1) Most MMO's are based on the existance of two competing factions. We don't have two such factions in the Mass Effect universe, so that simply wouldn't fly.
However, Mass Effect does have a gazillion fractions. Several big criminal organizations, even more small local gangs, dozens of corporations, lots of species and governments. And they all war and cooperate in various, everchanging compositions. One moment they share a similar goal, the next moment they compete for another goal. THAT is Mass Effect. Mass Effect is NOT Horde vs Alliance, Mass Effect is NOT Jedi vs Sith.
2) Players have different reasons for what they like about Mass Effect. Some love Mass Effect for the combat. Others love Mass Effect for the technology. There are people who love Mass Effect for the variety of species. People like Mass Effect for its politics, the backstabbing, the romance, the roleplay, the story arc(s).
Basically, I don't see the Mass Effect universe as a suitable universe for a WoW-type 2-faction MMO. I do find it extremely suitable for a more sandboxed MMO. Crossbreed EVE, SWG and STO, maybe even a sprinkle of Second Life, and we're headed somewhat in the right direction.
Impossible? No. A tremendous task? Definitely! Though I'd love to see it happen, I don't even dare to say it would be profitable, given the costs involved. But I'm talking about what would truly be the next generation of MMO's, breaking the molds entirely and make a really interactive world. Sure, there would still be themepark features, quests, raids and everything, but the emphasize wouldn't be placed with them, but would be placed on your character instead.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 02:45
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S.A.K wrote...
I just hope they don't try to find it out.
Agree.
All the mmos i have seen are just dumbed down single player games.
With the lust for money.
Its better that they try to create a proper game.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 03:15
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A large player base who want to play TPS with light RPG elements; the people who would play such an ME MMORPG are already playing WoWand a large player base
What about Guild Wars?1) Most MMO's are based on the existance of two competing factions
Are you calling SWTOR a "decent MMO"? Because a more realistic description would be "dismal failure"Besides ToR, EA has made a few other decent MMOs
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 03:17
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Nothing ruins one's sense of immersion quite like saving a colony only to hear, "sup ****** i screwd ur mum last nite."
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 03:23
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Sure. It's not going to happen soon, however. Why?
MMOs are expensive from development to the very end - maintaining one isn't cheap. EA already have SWTOR on their hands, another might be too much, especially considering that the genre, as it was said above, has no defined formula. Launching one is a risky maneuver that hasn't been paying off with a whole lot of frequency in the last few years.
Personally, I think BioWare should think about restoring their good standing with Mass Effect fans after the fiasco that was ME3 before gambling with the MMORPG genre.
Edit - For the record, I say all this as a rather big fan of MMOs.
MMOs are expensive from development to the very end - maintaining one isn't cheap. EA already have SWTOR on their hands, another might be too much, especially considering that the genre, as it was said above, has no defined formula. Launching one is a risky maneuver that hasn't been paying off with a whole lot of frequency in the last few years.
Personally, I think BioWare should think about restoring their good standing with Mass Effect fans after the fiasco that was ME3 before gambling with the MMORPG genre.
Edit - For the record, I say all this as a rather big fan of MMOs.
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 03:24
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Speaking as an MMO player and would-be-MMO-designer, I'd say yes.. Mass Effect has every hallmark it needs to work just fine as an MMO..
The setting would end up being the biggest deal.. The established "Shepard vs. The Reapers" cycle would be inevitable, as you need hefty amounts of enemies for any MMO.. It also negates the terrible ME3 ending in one specific way: MMOs have no true ending.. (i.e. fighting in a later high-level invasion Earth would basically just be one big raid.. "yay, we killed Harbinger! Where is my loot?")
Bioware could do so easily, as they have the experience with The Old Republic.. But they would have to avoid the pitfalls that game suffers and streamline it alot for an ME experience..
Hold the Line.. For Life..
The setting would end up being the biggest deal.. The established "Shepard vs. The Reapers" cycle would be inevitable, as you need hefty amounts of enemies for any MMO.. It also negates the terrible ME3 ending in one specific way: MMOs have no true ending.. (i.e. fighting in a later high-level invasion Earth would basically just be one big raid.. "yay, we killed Harbinger! Where is my loot?")
Bioware could do so easily, as they have the experience with The Old Republic.. But they would have to avoid the pitfalls that game suffers and streamline it alot for an ME experience..
Hold the Line.. For Life..
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 03:29
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So in 20 years you're still going to be fixated on the ending of one video game?Mordanticus wrote...
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Posté 23 juin 2013 - 03:30
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I'd say no. What it could work as is as a more coop oriented game, gameplay wise we've seen it work in ME3MP, but it was just that gameplay. And they can do multiplayer conversations, they just have to port SWTOR's system.
I'd say something along those lines could work really well, as a more classic mmo like swtor, wow, guild wars? No.
I'd say something along those lines could work really well, as a more classic mmo like swtor, wow, guild wars? No.
