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[Adela]

Nefla wrote...

ag99 wrote...

i think they should switch from EA to something else... could be a better change for BW considering how EA is mostly about sports.. and online thing....

I don't think they can change anything, they literally sold their company to EA and even if they wanted to or could somehow buy it back, the founders are gone, who would do it?

yea thats true , still i think they would have been better off with activision or any other company or whatever that doesnt force every game to be online/mp but oh well it is what it is... not much we can do about it just suck it up i guess.. yay...

[Volus Warlord]

Twisted Path wrote...

These polls always seem to have too many options. I'd much rather it just be "For" "Against" and "Undecided." I'm glad that "strongly against" seems to be winning though.

If you don't include all the options, people whine about not having enough options or not having options that truly represent them. 

Besides, for vs against seems a bit simplistic.

[cactusberry]

I am surprised at all of the negativity in comparison to how ME3's MP was surprisingly so well received when people were able to try it.

[Adela]

TheDarkRats wrote...

I am surprised at all of the negativity in comparison to how ME3's MP was surprisingly so well received when people were able to try it.

 ME is a completly diffrent game and from what i heard it was kind of a shotter game of sorts  so ofc it did well as a MP

[thebatmanreborn]

Depends on how it is implemented. Will it have a gladiator stadium like in Elder Scrolls IV and allow you to both co-op and pvp only within that place? Will it work sort of like Dark Souls? It really just depends.

[kequilla]

I can see it happening similar to how it was experimented with in Mass Effect 3. And lets be frank, the experiment showed bioware, that it not only worked, but was damn fun. The gameplay would have to be changed, but that's nothing new from what's been done.

[Volus Warlord]

TheDarkRats wrote...

I am surprised at all of the negativity in comparison to how ME3's MP was surprisingly so well received when people were able to try it.

Well, the naysayers seem to be in three main groups:

1.) Drawing a correlation the negativity associated with the endings with the presence of MP.  Personally, I think that's malarkey as the "issue" stemmed from writing rather than mechanics, QA, etc. but nontheless the argument pops up.

2.) SP purists that loathe the concept of MP, or at least loathe the concept of MP in Dragon Age. For them, the game being SP is a matter of principle and the presence of MP would violate that. Frankly these people will not be convinced by any argument.

3.) Doubters that fear if it were done, it'd be terrible or in some other way detract from the overall quality of the game. With this the issue is not the MP itself, but Bioware's ability to create it and balance it with SP. These ones can be debated with but  are most likely gonna have to see it to believe it.

And honestly the best way to squelch all this (or at least most of it) would be to release a demo that includes part of MP, much like ME3 did prior to release. The demo was one of the things ME3 really nailed on the head-got people to buy in to the concept of MP, show em it was enjoyable, etc. So if they make a solid MP and show it off adequately in the demo, most of the criticism will fall apart before the game is even released. 

The rest will stay around forever. But the people that enjoyed the MP will not care. 

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 24 juin 2013 - 02:56 .

[badboy64]

They should have a option whether to install MP when installing the game itself and the player should decide if he or she wants it. I personally don't want it because I would never play it at all and it would be just using space on SSD's that I could use for something else. Do we even know if MP will be included with the game anymore?

Modifié par badboy64, 24 juin 2013 - 03:09 .

[Iakus]

Multiplayer=Automatic no-buy from me.

[AlanC9]

badboy64 wrote...

They should have a option whether to install MP when installing the game itself and the player should decide if he or she wants it. I personally don't want it because I would never play it at all and it would be just using space on SSD's that I could use for something else. Do we even know if MP will be included with the game anymore?

This isn't a bad idea, but I'm not sure how much space would get freed up. Most of ME3's non-DLC MP assets made an appearance in the SP game, didn't they?

I voted neutral. My only interest is SP, but from what I've seen MP had its own resources and makes its own money, so it's of no particular concern to me whether it's in or not. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 juin 2013 - 04:27 .

[dekkerd]

If MP is on the disc it is taking resources from SP. So, a free day one DLC(you need to be connected to play anyhow) of MP is fine as long as it a ZERO RELEVANCE to the SP story.

Addressing some comments above about ME3. The major mistake was requiring anything other than SP actions to get different outcomes that were plot related. Having custom MP characters in a line in front of your castle(mako, shuttle, whatever) would've been a nice touch. Changing the ending of the game based on MP score, when it has been SP only up until now? Not so much.

[cactusberry]

ag99 wrote...
 ME is a completly diffrent game and from what i heard it was kind of a shotter game of sorts  so ofc it did well as a MP

You've never even played ME, so how could you tell if it would fit with MP or not?

The view for MP in ME3 before it was released was overwhelmingly negative, then people enjoyed it after it came out.

[Adela]

TheDarkRats wrote...

ag99 wrote...
 ME is a completly diffrent game and from what i heard it was kind of a shotter game of sorts  so ofc it did well as a MP

You've never even played ME, so how could you tell if it would fit with MP or not?

The view for MP in ME3 before it was released was overwhelmingly negative, then people enjoyed it after it came out.

 no i havent played it  because im not too big into sci-fi games in general but ive seen some videos on how it is,  and usually shooter games tend go well with mp, dragon age is not a shooter game

Modifié par ag99, 24 juin 2013 - 06:01 .

[Celene II]

AGAINST MP

Every second they spend thinking about, coding, and figuring out MP is a second they are stealing from SP.

[Adela]

also even if they do make DA a MP game how would that even work? what are they gonna put Flemeth as one of the bosses and then make a guild and then have a raid to fight her ? really? i mean if i want that kind of stuff i can just play wow or rift or any other kind of mmo or mp game out there, all i want is a clean sp rpg game but i guess that's too much to ask for these days cuz apparently everything has to be mp

[AlanC9]

dekkerd wrote...

If MP is on the disc it is taking resources from SP. 

Only if the disc is actually so full of SP that MP can't fit without SP cuts.

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 juin 2013 - 07:14 .

[AlanC9]

Celene II wrote...

AGAINST MP

Every second they spend thinking about, coding, and figuring out MP is a second they are stealing from SP.

Where do people get this fantasy that a SP game without MP revenue gets the same amount of people working on it as the same SP game with MP revenue? 

[Rawgrim]

Killing an ogre along side XbxIsdaSh*t666 the elven rogue,  doesn`t make for a good immersive roleplaying experience.

Modifié par Rawgrim, 24 juin 2013 - 07:18 .

[Ulathar]

If the combat system is good and the MP is well-done I'd like it to be in the game, especially competitive MP could be interesting. However, I wouldn't be disappointed if DA:I would turn out to be a 100% SP game.

[Hi my name is Ryan]

Make it like Neverwinter Nights and release a toolset so we can make our own campaigns. That would extend this game's lifespan by years (assuming it's actually fun to play).  No cookie cutter horde mode trash like Ass Defect 3

Modifié par Hi my name is Ryan, 24 juin 2013 - 07:27 .

[Rawgrim]

TheDarkRats wrote...

ag99 wrote...
 ME is a completly diffrent game and from what i heard it was kind of a shotter game of sorts  so ofc it did well as a MP

You've never even played ME, so how could you tell if it would fit with MP or not?

The view for MP in ME3 before it was released was overwhelmingly negative, then people enjoyed it after it came out.

People were forced to play MP when the game came out, since you couldn`t get the "perfect" ending in SP without playing MP. After MP became a "huge success" because of this, they patched the game and made it possible to play SP without it being influenced by the MP mode.

[Rodia Driftwood]

We know absolutely nothing about what this MP component actually is, and we're alread throwing a massive fit? C'mon, guys..

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Against - I play DA (and anotgher EA game) because they are offline. Those of us with limited bandwidth cannot play MMO games - it goes MMO, I don't buy it- can't play it anyway so why spend the 50-60.00 on it?

Now if it's something like Simport in TS3 where you can share your character, but don't have to and can play offline if you choose, okay but, forced MMO and EA looses another customer.

Modifié par DarkAmaranth1966, 24 juin 2013 - 08:23 .

[ComfortablyNumb]

Against. I don't play RPG for MP.

[ComfortablyNumb]

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

We know absolutely nothing about what this MP component actually is, and we're alread throwing a massive fit? C'mon, guys..

It's actually BSN tradition - to throw fits before, during and after...