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[Amycus89]

I much rather have a toolset in that case, thank you.

[Tarek]

I don't buy bioware games for the multilayer experience

[Volus Warlord]

iakus wrote...

Nomadiac wrote...

 https://twitter.com/...584064745345026

 @lizkimo @BioMarkDarrah I love ME3 MP too! No plans for #Inquisition at this time - very focused on the SP currently; it needs to be great

It's somewhat ambiguous, but it seems like Bioware is not planning to include multiplayer in DA:I - either that, or it's not a major focus currently. 

Bah, they were saying the exact same stuff about ME3, right up until the day multiplayer was leaked.

MP for ME3 was a different circumstance entirely. First off, there were plans to release the MP as a seperate title, which would have been an epic fail. There was leaked videos of Battlefield-esque ME3-FPS, usable vehicles, etc. but that was largely scrapped in favor of what we got. And then there is the whole two teams thing.

[jstme]

krul2k wrote...

JillBSuiT wrote...
No, keep it SP, MP takes time and resources away even if you got 2 teams doing it.

if the game requires MP it gets seperate funds for MP

Really? 
I'd say it does not. ME3 has way less side missions then ME2 for that very reason. Studio that developed those for ME2 was mainly busy with making multiplayer.
So unless you have EA detailed budget for ME2 and ME3 your assumption stays just that. 

[Volus Warlord]

jstme wrote...

krul2k wrote...

JillBSuiT wrote...
No, keep it SP, MP takes time and resources away even if you got 2 teams doing it.

if the game requires MP it gets seperate funds for MP

Really? 
I'd say it does not. ME3 has way less side missions then ME2 for that very reason. Studio that developed those for ME2 was mainly busy with making multiplayer.
So unless you have EA detailed budget for ME2 and ME3 your assumption stays just that. 

What do you mean by "Side Missions?" Technically you could categorize the vast majority of recruitment and loyalty missions as "side missions." ME2 was very short if you just did the bare requirements to get to the Suicide Mission.

[jstme]

Volus Warlord wrote...

jstme wrote...

krul2k wrote...

JillBSuiT wrote...
No, keep it SP, MP takes time and resources away even if you got 2 teams doing it.

if the game requires MP it gets seperate funds for MP

Really? 
I'd say it does not. ME3 has way less side missions then ME2 for that very reason. Studio that developed those for ME2 was mainly busy with making multiplayer.
So unless you have EA detailed budget for ME2 and ME3 your assumption stays just that. 

What do you mean by "Side Missions?" Technically you could categorize the vast majority of recruitment and loyalty missions as "side missions." ME2 was very short if you just did the bare requirements to get to the Suicide Mission.

No, i am not even counting loyality missions as side missions. Nor am i counting fetchmestuff from ME3 or ME2.
Just look at how many N7 missions ME2 had.This category alone is more then all content side missions from the third game.  

[Frek]

EA's policy is to include a MP element with a cash shop for every game they produce. So like it or not their will be MP included. It will also include some sort of "incentive" for you to play it that will have some effect on the SP mode. (probably similar to ME3 in some regard like playing MP gets you extra troops or something for the big showdown).

It's great that you have a poll but let's be honest here, EA isn't going to change it's policy on this. It would never happen unless it sold so poorly that they lost money on producing it. That's something that isn't going to happen because people lack the fortitude to resist the shiny these days.

Bottom line is DA:I will have MP with cash shop. Complain all you want, you're just wasting your time.

For the record I didn't mind the MP in ME3, though I never would even consider paying real money for the packs. I suspect EA will try to "encourage" more people to pay for things in the MP. We might see it a little more invasive in DA. As long as the MP in DA:I doesn't go any further than what it did in ME3 I'd be ok with it. If it devolves to the point that you need more than one afternoon to get whatever you absolutely need to do that effects the SP game then I'm against it. (as in ME3 you could play MP for one afternoon and easily reach 100% galactic readiness)

[SerenityRebirth]

I have to admit that after ME3 had a successful multiplayer component, I am not completely against the idea of MP in DAI. However; I don't have a clear recollection of how it'd work in the game.

[Adela]

LOL if they wanna take a gamble on this with mp then so be it its their money at stake after all so lol knock urselfs out and also i think if it would take alot out of the sp then im pretty sure ppl would hesitate to buy it,next thing u know they will have an auction house and some other dumb sht idk this thred really depresses me im not even sure i wanna buy it now with all the talk of mp and stuff oh well it was good while it lasted, i guess i will just settle for DAO and DA2 THANX ALOT EA

[n0na90]

I'm sceptical, but not fully against it.

I'd much prefer mod-support, toolset etc.

[Beerfish]

Fully support, would be disappointed if there is none.

ME3 mp is quite simply very fun and has been an excellent bridge between other games. Other than the original blunder of them having affect the sp game which they corrected it has had zero effect for me on the ME3 single play experience.

[twilekaoi]

I'm against multiplayer in DAI, but am not against multiplayer in a DA spin-off game. That said, if mutlplayer were preset in DAI, I'd want it to be something akin to Dragon's Dogma; where it's more of a 'enhanced' single player experience, rather than a full on co-op mode like in ME3.

[twilekaoi]

Frek wrote...

EA's policy is to include a MP element with a cash shop for every game they produce. So like it or not their will be MP included. It will also include some sort of "incentive" for you to play it that will have some effect on the SP mode. (probably similar to ME3 in some regard like playing MP gets you extra troops or something for the big showdown).

It's great that you have a poll but let's be honest here, EA isn't going to change it's policy on this. It would never happen unless it sold so poorly that they lost money on producing it. That's something that isn't going to happen because people lack the fortitude to resist the shiny these days.

Bottom line is DA:I will have MP with cash shop. Complain all you want, you're just wasting your time.

For the record I didn't mind the MP in ME3, though I never would even consider paying real money for the packs. I suspect EA will try to "encourage" more people to pay for things in the MP. We might see it a little more invasive in DA. As long as the MP in DA:I doesn't go any further than what it did in ME3 I'd be ok with it. If it devolves to the point that you need more than one afternoon to get whatever you absolutely need to do that effects the SP game then I'm against it. (as in ME3 you could play MP for one afternoon and easily reach 100% galactic readiness)

Interesting-- got a link for verification?

[AlanC9]

jstme wrote...

Really? 
I'd say it does not. ME3 has way less side missions then ME2 for that very reason. Studio that developed those for ME2 was mainly busy with making multiplayer.

This isn't a funding limit, it's a staffing limit. And staffing limits are fungible. Unless we assume that there was no one available for EA to hire, either by contracting more work out or increasing staff someplace. It's not inconceivable, but I don't think the market's that tight.

No, i am not even counting loyality missions as side missions. Nor am i counting fetchmestuff from ME3 or ME2.
Just look at how many N7 missions ME2 had.This category alone is more then all content side missions from the third game.  

19 to 14, yeah. OTOH that would be a lot more hours for ME3.

[dekkerd]

AlanC9 wrote...

dekkerd wrote...

If MP is on the disc it is taking resources from SP. 

Only if the disc is actually so full of SP that MP can't fit without SP cuts.

and since its being made for current gen consoles, that's a safe bet. Something will be left on the cutting room floor if MP is on disc. 

ag99 wrote...]

 no i havent played it  because im not too big into sci-fi games in general but ive seen some videos on how it is,  and usually shooter games tend go well with mp, dragon age is not a shooter game

play da2 as an all Mage party plus varric. Congrats, you are playing a fantasy version of mass effect. 

[FKA_Servo]

twilekaoi wrote...

Interesting-- got a link for verification?

This is the news that everyone seems to cite. But it doesn't say what Frek implies it says.

It could be multiplayer, but it's just as likely to be another facebook game. "Online component" is pretty vague. They certainly haven't promised a RMT cash shop in every game going forward.

Modifié par TommyServo, 24 juin 2013 - 03:48 .

[mopotter]

Won't play an on line game with other people. It's why I play single player games. If they set it up so it does not affect the single player game at all, including having a different group working on it so they don't use single player resources, I don't care. If it's going to do anything else, I don't want it involved.

If they want some kind of on line option, a DLC that I can totally ignore would be great.

[Iakus]

TommyServo wrote...

twilekaoi wrote...

Interesting-- got a link for verification?

This is the news that everyone seems to cite. But it doesn't say what Frek implies it says.

It could be multiplayer, but it's just as likely to be another facebook game. "Online component" is pretty vague. They certainly haven't promised a RMT cash shop in every game going forward.

Also

"I have not greenlit one game to be developed as a single player experience"

[AstraDrakkar]

I'll definitely be disappointed if DAI resorts to the Multiplayer angle.

[twilekaoi]

TommyServo wrote...

twilekaoi wrote...

Interesting-- got a link for verification?

This is the news that everyone seems to cite. But it doesn't say what Frek implies it says.

It could be multiplayer, but it's just as likely to be another facebook game. "Online component" is pretty vague. They certainly haven't promised a RMT cash shop in every game going forward.

Yeah, I don't see anything specifically stating all games will have multiplayer. What I got from that is single-player  games will
have tie-ins across multiple devices-- whether it's a multiplayer or social components.

Which I'll tolerate if multi is in-- assuming no resources gets taken away from single player--, though I would much rather have just a social component. But in the case of ME3, I
didn’t like that I HAD to play online (multiplayer), to get my galactic readiness (social component)
higher in order to get an optimal ending. I think that's the crux of the issue most people have.

Modifié par twilekaoi, 24 juin 2013 - 04:41 .

[Reever]

If they'll do it the ME3 way, it won't hinder the game in any way (but hopefully they'll better integrate the systems...). And having wars going on in DAI is surely the best time to introduce Multiplayer, so prepare yourselves...

[RepHope]

ME3s Horde Mode bored me but as long as it's a separate experience from SP. Let the filthy casuals have their horde mode with micro transactions ( IM KIDDING).

However even if they did make MP who's going to make it? Montreal is off making ME:4 (now with even more micro transactions)

[dekkerd]

BlueDemonX wrote...

If they'll do it the ME3 way, it won't hinder the game in any way (but hopefully they'll better integrate the systems...). And having wars going on in DAI is surely the best time to introduce Multiplayer, so prepare yourselves...

if they learned the lesson of ME3, it will be OK. I'd rather a free day one DLC, but will be content as long as it leaves SP alone. 

[Rayndorn]

 I'd find it pretty awesome to play as a mage  owning templar players, as it would add to the feeling of war in the game. I wouldn't mind if MP was in Inquisition or not, but I feel it's too soon to say  if I'll be disappointed or eager for it.

[Mark of the Dragon]

ag99 wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Frank Gibeau EAVP has said months ago the game WILL have MP. Doesn't matter to EA if the players don't want it. We're getting it.

well then.... i guess there goes a good game that i use to love... sad..

No he didnt. He said all EA published games had an online component.

FYI both DAO and DA2 had an online component. Gibeau said nothing about multiplayer.

Also Aaron Flynn said at E# multiplayer wouldnt be shoe horned in. I honestly dont think DA3 will have any multiplayer.