If the Warden and Hawke make a cameo, how do you want it done?
#26
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 12:25
#27
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 01:01
The idea that their absense is sacrosanct and that doing the Warden's appearance right just couldn't be done is highly frustrating to me, because I know it can be done well, and I have the opposite motivation.
Customized, reactive characters. CC customized appearance. Whatever issue they address in the story, either through words or action, allow us to assign their motivation/stance/attitude/whatever. (That bit would be nice, but not necessary. If assumptions are made based on the body of choices we made previously, I'm fine with that. I know that scares some people.) Beyond that, I don't need total control of the characters. Preferably they'll show up in scenes relevant to what we sent them off to do in their epilogues, but just tying those to any given scene would also work. I hope they show up with their LI at some point where it makes sense, such as with Morrigan. It'd be fantastic if they interacted with each other, as allies or adversaries. I just want them reactive to what I made them and to continue to be an active, visible part of my DA world until they're killed off in some way or retire. The Warden requires a little more work and expense for however much screentime they've got, but the payoff is immense if you treat it seriously.
Edit: I'd prefer their appearance be marketed as a feature, because it would be something unique and very cool. If not, I'm fine with the DLC idea. That does leave it entirely up to the player.
Modifié par cindercatz, 24 juin 2013 - 01:13 .
#28
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 01:12
#29
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 01:14
The other option I'm not sure will work, unless the Warden is wearing full body armour or clothing, but they could do what TV does whenever they have someone who is supposed to be the Queen of England or the Pope, show them from behind in a non speaking capacity. If possible, they could see if skin tone and hair colour of the Warden is imported, though I doubt that is likely.
#30
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 02:24
Afterwards, (in a cutscene, I'm thinking) we can see a helmeted male/female figure attending to some troops and someone can state "That's the Hero of Ferelden". Their respective LI can be close at hand and we, the player, would of course recognize them.
Hawke, I expect, would just walk right up and greet Varric and issue conrgatulations to our PC (assuming it's a victory); nothing over-the-top to contradict the nice/sarcastic/mean personalities, just neutral regards. Their LI will also be about, and with a wave from Varric and a "I'll be catching up with Hawke - meet up with you later!" they walk off in the vague direction of the Warden.
Ya know...in a dream world scenario.
#31
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 03:01
#32
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 03:08
#33
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 03:20
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Rumors and gossip. While I would love to see both characters in some sort of cut scene, if even just from a distance, I think there's plenty of potential with having them mentioned in banter. The snarkier and more outrageous, the better.
#34
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 03:40
#35
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 04:03
whykikyouwhy wrote...
Rumors and gossip. While I would love to see both characters in some sort of cut scene, if even just from a distance, I think there's plenty of potential with having them mentioned in banter. The snarkier and more outrageous, the better.
THIS!!!!
At least the part about rumors and gossip.
I have no interest in seeing the warden or Hawke anywhere in the game. Someone else mentioned full armor leading a group in battle and I wouldn't hate this, because someone near my character would have to be pointing at them and saying - LOOK it's the famous Wardon who helped defeat the darkspawn, I thought they had died. or look it's that famous Hawke person, my brother-in-laws sister calls Hawke the champian of Kirkwall.
#36
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 04:08
if the warden is in DAI he/she should be playable.
#37
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 04:09
#38
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 04:15
My warden's LI is morrigan, and hawke's is isabella. So there's a good chance that might actually happen (lore-wise).
#39
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 04:20
#40
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 07:47
Now my Hawke - she dumped her LI (Anders) just before the final battle. So there'd be no LI to speak for her! I'm trying to think of how to get around that, but can't come up with anything, other than having a short cutscene of a fully armoured person in the distance, and maybe Varric excusing himself to go say hello to her.
#41
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 08:59
Playing through said DLC imports scenes and/or quests with The Warden and/or Hawke.
That way you get a bit of choice as to why they are where they are in DA: I in the first place.
And naturally, choices in the DLC reflect in the main game so previous characters can appear in a variety of different situations, ranging from friends to enemy.
This way, you get to see your characters again and not have control taken away from you unless you allow it(Best results would add a setting that lets you choose wether a character imported from the dlc would have a large in game part, a small one or none at all.
This is probably my messiest post
#42
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 09:01
#43
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 09:06
Varric: Well I hear the Champion is with the Hero of Fereldan fighting dragons in the Tivinter Empire.
Nice Response
Inquisitor: Hmm. Did you make that up?
Varric: I sure did.
Inquisitor: I guess we'll never know.
Comedic Response
Inquisitor: You and your stories.
Varric: That's what I'm here for. Telling stories.
Aggressive Response
Inquisitor: You made that up.
Varric: Calm down. No one knows where Hawke or the Grey Warden went.
Modifié par Abraham_uk, 24 juin 2013 - 09:10 .
#44
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 09:11
#45
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 10:14
The problem witht the teaming up situation is that my warden just doesn't care about the world anymore. (Talking darkspawn was it for her). And my Hawke would try (and likely suceed) to gain leadership from my new pc.
Also there is the most more audience based fear that showing Hawke and/or the warden will steal 'the thunder' so to speak and they at the mere concept of being former player avatars will steal away empathy for the current player avatar due to players already having a connection with them.
#46
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 10:18
#47
Posté 24 juin 2013 - 10:20
#48
Posté 25 juin 2013 - 06:25
In the other hand ignore them will be ridiculous and unreliable because they are most powerful peoples in world and saying that they must disappear because they saved already world is like saying that darth sidious should disappear because he conquered galaxy already.It could work if it wasn't too much common and they have good reason but which one another ancient evil?
Rumors are little better but still bad idea because as well they can tell that they are on the moon and could be relied upon like on DA epilogue slideshow and that hero of ferelden slept with isabela and 3 nugs.
Other is that bio will make canon personality which is very bad idea and will make a lot rage considering Revan.
Well i'm curious how it will end.
Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 25 juin 2013 - 06:27 .
#49
Posté 25 juin 2013 - 06:31
#50
Posté 25 juin 2013 - 06:41
JediHealerCosmin wrote...
Altair style.

Mainly just because that scene had a genius freaking camera angle.
I'd sacrifice Hawke for a camera angle.
Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 25 juin 2013 - 06:47 .





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