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[Ailith Tycane]

Moonfish88 wrote...

Im hating her new look. She looks a lot better in DaII.

Also her accent sounds a bit Orlesian to me.

She is from Nevarra, whihc is somewhat based on Prussia, so her accent if anything is more Slavic/Germanic.

Also, everyone who is critical of her new appearance should remember the trailer was not in game footage, it was cinematic. Hawke didn't look like how he appeared in the DA2 cinematic trailer either, so I don't have any doubt she will look different in game.

Also I would love it if she was a same sex love interest for female characters, but considering how much David Gaider has been going off that he doesnt like having all of the companions romantically accessable to the character through blog posts and interviews etc, I am skeptical. Biowares track record is ussually that the poster girl is straight only, but that would make me very unhappy.

Modifié par Ailith430, 18 août 2013 - 04:43 .

[SMillar21]

Ailith430 wrote...

Moonfish88 wrote...

Im hating her new look. She looks a lot better in DaII.

Also her accent sounds a bit Orlesian to me.

She is from Nevarra, whihc is somewhat based on Prussia, so her accent if anything is more Slavic/Germanic.

Also, everyone who is critical of her new appearance should remember the trailer was not in game footage, it was cinematic. Hawke didn't look like how he appeared in the DA2 cinematic trailer either, so I don't have any doubt she will look different in game.

Also I would love it if she was a same sex love interest for female characters, but considering how much David Gaider has been going off that he doesnt like having all of the companions romantically accessable to the character through blog posts and interviews etc, I am skeptical. Biowares track record is ussually that the poster girl is straight only, but that would make me very unhappy.

The trailer was in engine footage, not cinematic. Doesn't mean they won't tamper with her looks, but the final product will likely be a lot closer to what we saw in the trailer, than how Hawke looked compared to the DA2 trailer.

P.S. As for wether or not she'll be a SS LI, I think I remember Gaider, or another of the BW staff saying they were likely to keep the "all bi" romances. Altough they could of changed their minds, or I could just be plain wrong. So don't quote me on that. lol:P
 
P.P.S. She has spent a lot of time in Orlais, so her accent could have a hint of French to it, possibly why we can't figure it out. Maybe it's a combination?

Modifié par SMillar21, 18 août 2013 - 05:03 .

[Ailith Tycane]

SMillar21 wrote...

The trailer was in engine footage, not cinematic. Doesn't mean they won't tamper with her looks, but the final product will likely be a lot closer to what we saw in the trailer, than how Hawke looked compared to the DA2 trailer.

P.S. As for wether or not she'll be a SS LI, I think I remember Gaider, or another of the BW staff saying they were likely to keep the "all bi" romances. Altough they could of changed their minds, or I could just be plain wrong. So don't quote me on that. lol:P
 
P.P.S. She has spent a lot of time in Orlais, so her accent could have a hint of French to it, possibly why we can't figure it out. Maybe it's a combination?

Oh was it? Well even so, I personally think she looks fine, and also keep in mind the game still has a year, so the concern over her looks still seem a little silly.

I am somewhat torn on the all bi options. On one hand I understand why some of the writers don't like it, but on the other hand I like having more options, especially since female characters in the past tend to get shafted for romance options compared to male characters. Considering how vocal Gaider has been about his dislike for it though, I seriously doubt they will keep it, but if they don't I'm hoping Cassandra will be the option for both sexes as opposed to someone else. I have little hope that will be the case though, lol.

[In Exile]

Ailith430 wrote...
Oh was it? Well even so, I personally think she looks fine, and also keep in mind the game still has a year, so the concern over her looks still seem a little silly.

I am somewhat torn on the all bi options. On one hand I understand why some of the writers don't like it, but on the other hand I like having more options, especially since female characters in the past tend to get shafted for romance options compared to male characters. Considering how vocal Gaider has been about his dislike for it though, I seriously doubt they will keep it, but if they don't I'm hoping Cassandra will be the option for both sexes as opposed to someone else. I have little hope that will be the case though, lol.

Wait, what? DG has been openly pro all bi LIs. 

[SMillar21]

Ailith430 wrote...

Oh was it? Well even so, I personally think she looks fine, and also keep in mind the game still has a year, so the concern over her looks still seem a little silly.

I am somewhat torn on the all bi options. On one hand I understand why some of the writers don't like it, but on the other hand I like having more options, especially since female characters in the past tend to get shafted for romance options compared to male characters. Considering how vocal Gaider has been about his dislike for it though, I seriously doubt they will keep it, but if they don't I'm hoping Cassandra will be the option for both sexes as opposed to someone else. I have little hope that will be the case though, lol.

I liked how she looked as well, most of the complaints seem to be about how she appears more masculine (I use that word lightly here) compared to her previous designs. 

There are arguments for both sides, of course having all the LI's be bisexual makes it equal/fair. The DAO romances were better writen, or more fleshed out though, imo. Of course wether that has to do with them having to write them in DA2, so that they would "make sense" for both sexes, or just the fact that they would've (likely) had less time to write them than they did for Origins, idk.

[The Elder King]

Gaider never said is against all LI (quite the contrary). If I remember well, he said that given enough resources and the will of expanding the quantity of romance content, they might make enough LI with different sexual preferences but an equal choice for everyone (something similar to 2 hetero, two homosexual and two bisexual LI), but he said that it's more likely that the DA2 approach will return.
This was last year. They might change their stance with the time extension.

[Danny Boy 7]

azarhal wrote...

sandellniklas wrote...

Also, Cassandra is obviously a warrior since she is using a two handed sword.

It's not a two-handed sword, unless they extremely reduced their size from the one used by the "PC" in the pre-alpha footage. Her sword is twice as small, handle and blade included. Although, Rogue don't use sword and neither do mage, so it still make her a warrior.

You can wonder why she's using it in her right or left hand, as well as with her two hands in different screenshots. Staged or not, she seems to have a new fighting style, unless we are getting a new warrior weapon style...

If she really switching her weapon hand, it's mean BioWare is trying to stay true to DotS though. She was ambidextrous in that movie, with a preference for her left hand in some circonstances (ex: kiling dragons) and right in others (smash blood mages to bits).  The Follower customization blog and another concept art shows her unsheathing her sword with her left hand too. Although, it might just be BioWare artists being unable to make a difference between left and right (Aveline companion selection pose comes to mind).

A lot  of the still images where she is holding the sword in one hand as you said seems to be staged either for the cover page of the game informer screenshots, but there is a picture where her, Varric and Vivienne are fighting a nightmare and she has both hands on the sword in the two hander stance from both Origins and DA2. So I'm betting on her being the two hander warrior of the group.

I think your reading a bit into the follower customization image though. They were just trying to show off her and that Warden's right shoulder with that specific armor piece.

[azarhal]

Sort of funny how everyone expect Cassandra to be romance-able. I have nothing against it, but storywise it just seems improbable to me. People do realize that she's like 40 when Inquisition start right? She didn't seem to be a cougar or even interested in companionship of that kind in DotS (poor Galyan, he did try). Also, brother-fixation...

By the way, Nevarran native language is Orlesian according to the table top DA RPG backgrounds.

[Master Shiori]

azarhal wrote...

Sort of funny how everyone expect Cassandra to be romance-able. I have nothing against it, but storywise it just seems improbable to me. People do realize that she's like 40 when Inquisition start right? She didn't seem to be a cougar or even interested in companionship of that kind in DotS (poor Galyan, he did try). Also, brother-fixation...

By the way, Nevarran native language is Orlesian according to the table top DA RPG backgrounds.

I don't see what her age has to do with being romanceable or not. People don't stop falling in love simply because they reach certain age.

I think Cass being a romance or not depends entirely on the writers. Objectively there's no reason she couldn't be (or it just isn't apparent). 

[azarhal]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 but there is a picture where her, Varric and Vivienne are fighting a nightmare and she has both hands on the sword in the two hander stance from both Origins and DA2. So I'm betting on her being the two hander warrior of the group.

I'm not saying that she's not a "two-handed" warrior, only that she has custom animations, which suggest that she might have a custom fighting style.

You can see DAI two-handed weapon fighting in the footage from the gamelpay mechanics GI video. The two-handed sword is similar to DA2, the handle is super long and the character is holding it with a large space between both hands. Cassandra's weapon handle is not long enough for that grip, in fact, in this screenshot, her hands cover the entire handle and they touch each others. Her weapon is missing "one foot" of handle and probably two feet of blade to be a DAO/DA2 two-handed sword.

[Milan92]

Master Shiori wrote...

azarhal wrote...

Sort of funny how everyone expect Cassandra to be romance-able. I have nothing against it, but storywise it just seems improbable to me. People do realize that she's like 40 when Inquisition start right? She didn't seem to be a cougar or even interested in companionship of that kind in DotS (poor Galyan, he did try). Also, brother-fixation...

By the way, Nevarran native language is Orlesian according to the table top DA RPG backgrounds.

I don't see what her age has to do with being romanceable or not. People don't stop falling in love simply because they reach certain age.

I think Cass being a romance or not depends entirely on the writers. Objectively there's no reason she couldn't be (or it just isn't apparent). 

Exactly. If people need more prove btw that Cassandra can actually have romantic feelings, she says that its romantic when Hawke beats the Arishok.

[Ailith Tycane]

azarhal wrote...

Sort of funny how everyone expect Cassandra to be romance-able. I have nothing against it, but storywise it just seems improbable to me. People do realize that she's like 40 when Inquisition start right? She didn't seem to be a cougar or even interested in companionship of that kind in DotS (poor Galyan, he did try). Also, brother-fixation...

By the way, Nevarran native language is Orlesian according to the table top DA RPG backgrounds.

So people 40 and over are immediately unromancable? I'm not sure what kind of sense that makes but okay, lol.

And as for the Gaider thing I could be completely wrong, I just seem to remember something he wrote on his Tumblr about it, but it was a while ago. 

Modifié par Ailith430, 18 août 2013 - 06:18 .

[Ruadh]

Wait a minute, this thread is 10 pages long and nobody has addressed her new hair* yet. Shocking!

*By new hair, I mean the weird braid she has wrapped round her head.

P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

[hotdogbsg]

ginner dave wrote...


P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

Late 30's as far as I know.

[Danny Boy 7]

azarhal wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 but there is a picture where her, Varric and Vivienne are fighting a nightmare and she has both hands on the sword in the two hander stance from both Origins and DA2. So I'm betting on her being the two hander warrior of the group.

I'm not saying that she's not a "two-handed" warrior, only that she has custom animations, which suggest that she might have a custom fighting style.

You can see DAI two-handed weapon fighting in the footage from the gamelpay mechanics GI video. The two-handed sword is similar to DA2, the handle is super long and the character is holding it with a large space between both hands. Cassandra's weapon handle is not long enough for that grip, in fact, in this screenshot, her hands cover the entire handle and they touch each others. Her weapon is missing "one foot" of handle and probably two feet of blade to be a DAO/DA2 two-handed sword.

Not to be overly argumentative but I don't see how she has custom animations. We haven't seen her in action, like at all. The one image  that you posted has her fighting with a very recognizable Origins and DA2 animation. That doesn't mean she doesn't have skills that are unique to her, but I'm not entirely sure if the unique companion specializations from DA2 had their own animations.

I'm not sure how the length of the handle really changes anything though. Other than there may be more realistic sword sizes.

[Milan92]

ginner dave wrote...

Wait a minute, this thread is 10 pages long and nobody has addressed her new hair* yet. Shocking!

*By new hair, I mean the weird braid she has wrapped round her head.

P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

Oh mah gawd, I had completely forgotten about that! 
 


It looks good! 

[hotdogbsg]

I thought that was the Inquistor, not Cassnandra

[azarhal]

Ailith430 wrote...

So people 40 and over are immediately unromancable? I'm not sure what kind of sense that makes but okay, lol.

I never said they were not romancable. Cassandra at 40 is outside BioWare usual setup for romance, which mostly use characters between the age of 20 and 35, with a tendency to be closer to 20 than 35. The only exception is Carth Onasis at 38 (and the elves in the BG games). He had a kid too, I would be totally fine with Cassandra having kid(s) too by the way (along with her being romancable).

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Not to be overly argumentative but I
don't see how she has custom animations. We haven't seen her in action,
like at all. The one image  that you posted has her fighting with a very
recognizable Origins and DA2 animation. That doesn't mean she doesn't
have skills that are unique to her, but I'm not entirely sure if the
unique companion specializations from DA2 had their own animations.

I'm
not sure how the length of the handle really changes anything though.
Other than there may be more realistic sword sizes.

We have pre-alpha gameplay of DAI two-handed sword animations, all two-handed sword will be held that way: hands far appart on the handle (like DA2).  This is the animation rig for two-handed sword, how the models interacts and move with each others and move. If Cassandra was using that animation rig her lower hand would be floating in mid-air holding nothing. In other word, she has custom animations to be holding her weapon the way she does in the screenshot.

[MisterJB]

ginner dave wrote...

Wait a minute, this thread is 10 pages long and nobody has addressed her new hair* yet. Shocking!

*By new hair, I mean the weird braid she has wrapped round her head.

P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

Gaider said; and TWOT confirms it; that "Dawn of the Seeker" happens in 9:22 Dragon and that Cassandra was considered " young" then. Altough we can't tell for sure how old she was at the time, I'd wager she was, at utmost, in her early twenties. Probrably even younger considering children were expected to take responsabilities a lot sooner in medievaltimes but let's say twenty.
The World of Thedas places her interrogation of Varric at 9:40 Dragon making her around 38 at the time. A year or two could have passed between DA2's ending and DAI's beginning but she shouldn't be much older than 39-40 years old. Which, as far as I am concerned, makes her all the more attractive.

Modifié par MisterJB, 18 août 2013 - 07:03 .

[Danny Boy 7]

azarhal wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

So people 40 and over are immediately unromancable? I'm not sure what kind of sense that makes but okay, lol.

I never said they were not romancable. Cassandra at 40 is outside BioWare usual setup for romance, which mostly use characters between the age of 20 and 35, with a tendency to be closer to 20 than 35. The only exception is Carth Onasis at 38 (and the elves in the BG games). He had a kid too, I would be totally fine with Cassandra having kid(s) too by the way (along with her being romancable).

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

Not to be overly argumentative but I
don't see how she has custom animations. We haven't seen her in action,
like at all. The one image  that you posted has her fighting with a very
recognizable Origins and DA2 animation. That doesn't mean she doesn't
have skills that are unique to her, but I'm not entirely sure if the
unique companion specializations from DA2 had their own animations.

I'm
not sure how the length of the handle really changes anything though.
Other than there may be more realistic sword sizes.

We have pre-alpha gameplay of DAI two-handed sword animations, all two-handed sword will be held that way: hands far appart on the handle (like DA2).  This is the animation rig for two-handed sword, how the models interacts and move with each others and move. If Cassandra was using that animation rig her lower hand would be floating in mid-air holding nothing. In other word, she has custom animations to be holding her weapon the way she does in the screenshot.

Unless there are points of connection rather than a straight up general two handed skeleton. Left hand pommel, right hand guard so to speak rather than hands x amount apart. 

At any rate ypur original argument was that it wasn't a two handed sword which as it happens since it's her default weapon and you have agreed she is the two handed warrior ergo it is a two handed sword. Its just that they seem to have opted to add smaller two handed swords is all.

P.S. I realize that my second paragraph was a bit unintentionally hostile so please forgive me for that.

[SMillar21]

MisterJB wrote...

ginner dave wrote...

Wait a minute, this thread is 10 pages long and nobody has addressed her new hair* yet. Shocking!

*By new hair, I mean the weird braid she has wrapped round her head.

P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

Gaider said; and TWOT confirms it; that "Dawn of the Seeker" happens in 9:22 Dragon and that Cassandra was considered " young" then. Altough we can't tell for sure how old she was at the time, I'd wager she was, at utmost, in her early twenties. Probrably even younger considering children were expected to take responsabilities a lot sooner in medievaltimes but let's say twenty.
The World of Thedas places her interrogation of Varric at 9:40 Dragon making her around 38 at the time. A year or two could have passed between DA2's ending and DAI's beginning but she shouldn't be much older than 39-40 years old. Which, as far as I am concerned, makes her all the more attractive.

I hope are pc's are a little older than Hawke/The Warden (Late teens/early twenties if I'm not mistaken), somwhere around 25-32. That way they (can) have some experience. Otherwise, it wouldn't really make sense for them to put you in charge, over someone with the experiance Cassandra (or Cullen/The Grey Warden, assuming they're our companion[s] as well) has. Not to mention it would close up any possible age gaps there may be (Cass, Cullen etc.).

[sandalisthemaker]

MisterJB wrote...

ginner dave wrote...

Wait a minute, this thread is 10 pages long and nobody has addressed her new hair* yet. Shocking!

*By new hair, I mean the weird braid she has wrapped round her head.

P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

Gaider said; and TWOT confirms it; that "Dawn of the Seeker" happens in 9:22 Dragon and that Cassandra was considered " young" then. Altough we can't tell for sure how old she was at the time, I'd wager she was, at utmost, in her early twenties. Probrably even younger considering children were expected to take responsabilities a lot sooner in medievaltimes but let's say twenty.
The World of Thedas places her interrogation of Varric at 9:40 Dragon making her around 38 at the time. A year or two could have passed between DA2's ending and DAI's beginning but she shouldn't be much older than 39-40 years old. Which, as far as I am concerned, makes her all the more attractive.

I'm pretty sure Cassandra was meant to be a teenager in DotS.  Perhaps as young as 16 or 17 due to target audience.

[SMillar21]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

ginner dave wrote...

Wait a minute, this thread is 10 pages long and nobody has addressed her new hair* yet. Shocking!

*By new hair, I mean the weird braid she has wrapped round her head.

P.S What is her age? I'm trying to learn the lore right now, and thats something I don't know.

Gaider said; and TWOT confirms it; that "Dawn of the Seeker" happens in 9:22 Dragon and that Cassandra was considered " young" then. Altough we can't tell for sure how old she was at the time, I'd wager she was, at utmost, in her early twenties. Probrably even younger considering children were expected to take responsabilities a lot sooner in medievaltimes but let's say twenty.
The World of Thedas places her interrogation of Varric at 9:40 Dragon making her around 38 at the time. A year or two could have passed between DA2's ending and DAI's beginning but she shouldn't be much older than 39-40 years old. Which, as far as I am concerned, makes her all the more attractive.

I'm pretty sure Cassandra was meant to be a teenager in DotS.  Perhaps as young as 16 or 17 due to target audience.

I agree, but even then she would be around 35+

[Iron Fist]

I don't care how old Cassandra is.

I'm still leaving Morrigan and the little one for her.

We shall have a sordid love affair full of sex and demon slaying.

Modifié par MevenSelas, 18 août 2013 - 07:59 .

[N7recruit]

I don't think that there should be any problems with regards to Cassandras age (Makes her cooler to me). Be it 35+,40 or whatever as I think its safe to assume the Inquisitor would be in his or her 30's as well as it seems to be a title that requires experience to earn it.

Slightly off topic but do any of you guys & gals remember when in the DAO or DA2 pre-release scheduled did they start talking about the Companions?
I know we are still over a year away until release but it would be cool to know when we can expect to get some more solid info on Cass as well as the others as the wait will probably drive me insane ; )