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[Karlone123]

This type of person would usually be put into a side character like a npc or companion instead of being a protagonist.
I made a topic on always being Human in future games, so I just wanted to get some opinions on the protagonist being half elven. Some people obviously do not like having to be play as a Human. And I fully understand Bioware might go back to race selection in the future.

I just wanted to see if people would think being half-human half elven could be a good compromise if race selection is not available.

[Salaya]

I don't understand your point...why would a companion half-human half-elf be a compromise for race selection for main character?

[Jigglypuff]

No I want an elf, since half-human and elf would still be a human.

[Karlone123]

Salaya wrote...

I don't understand your point...why would a companion half-human half-elf be a compromise for race selection for main character?

If people wanted to play as an elven character, but that not being a choice right now. They could have the best of both worlds of being Human and Elven, despite no race selection.

[PlasmaCheese]

As long as I can have ears like Danarius. I don't care what the lore says. v______v
Is it a compromise? No. Definitely not if Bioware does stick to the lore and makes half-elven people look like normal humans. But it would make me feel better to have a pointy eared character.

[LobselVith8]

Karlone123 wrote...

This type of person would usually be put into a side character like a npc or companion instead of being a protagonist.
I made a topic on always being Human in future games, so I just wanted to get some opinions on the protagonist being half elven. Some people obviously do not like having to be play as a Human. And I fully understand Bioware might go back to race selection in the future.

Xil suggested something similar months ago. It could be an interesting background - allowing two cultural perspectives, as opposed to one.

Karlone123 wrote...

I just wanted to see if people would think being half-human half elven could be a good compromise if race selection is not available. 

Like Feynriel. It would be nice to play as a protagonist who didn't follow the religious teachings of the Andrastian Chantry.

[Sir JK]

If the story has room to explore the "of two worlds"-aspect that's tied to the identity of being a half elf, then yeah sure. It'd work admirably. For the same reason it'd work wonderfully with any race if the story has room to explore their identity.

If it doesn't though and just skims over or ignores your identity... then what's the point of allowing you to choose it?

[Karlone123]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

This type of person would usually be put into a side character like a npc or companion instead of being a protagonist.
I made a topic on always being Human in future games, so I just wanted to get some opinions on the protagonist being half elven. Some people obviously do not like having to be play as a Human. And I fully understand Bioware might go back to race selection in the future.

Xil suggested something similar months ago. It could be an interesting background - allowing two cultural perspectives, as opposed to one.

Karlone123 wrote...

I just wanted to see if people would think being half-human half elven could be a good compromise if race selection is not available. 

Like Feynriel. It would be nice to play as a protagonist who didn't follow the religious teachings of the Andrastian Chantry.

It would be interesting to have the protaganist have a identity crisis, like does he/she belong with the Andrastian community or the Elven community.

[Rawgrim]

The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.

[Karlone123]

Rawgrim wrote...

The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.

I would usually think on the personal aspect of being part of a elven-human family. Your father could be elven and tries to teach you the elven identity. It would be a bit similar to Hawke's story of "rags to riches" but more on the grounds of racism, poverty and subjecation.

Modifié par Karlone123, 24 juin 2013 - 04:04 .

[Iakus]

Karlone123 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.

I would usually think on the personal aspect of being part of a elven-human family. Your father could be elven and tries to teach you the elven identity. It would be a bit similar to Hawke's story of "rags to riches" but more on the ground of racism and subjecation.

Indeed, an elf-blooded human is physaically human, but there's all sort of cultural and racial repercussions that could be explored

Modifié par iakus, 24 juin 2013 - 04:04 .

[Karlone123]

iakus wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.

I would usually think on the personal aspect of being part of a elven-human family. Your father could be elven and tries to teach you the elven identity. It would be a bit similar to Hawke's story of "rags to riches" but more on the ground of racism and subjecation.

Indeed, an elf-blooded human is physaically human, but there's all sort of cultural and racial repercussions that could be explored

I think it would make for a gripping story, as for the whole identity crisis, and cultural background exploration. Commiting it to a protaganist would help future explore it.

[drake heath]

Why does no one ever want to be a half-dwarf?

Everyone always wants to be some pansy elf...

[Nethalf]

drake heath wrote...
Why does no one ever want to be a half-dwarf?

Rooke is a half-dwarf and a half-ghoul  I don't want being Rooke.

[Patchwork]

It would probably work better as a set character rather than the quasi set one BW have taken to giving us. For now headcanon is your friend.

[Sanunes]

Sir JK wrote...

If the story has room to explore the "of two worlds"-aspect that's tied to the identity of being a half elf, then yeah sure. It'd work admirably. For the same reason it'd work wonderfully with any race if the story has room to explore their identity.

If it doesn't though and just skims over or ignores your identity... then what's the point of allowing you to choose it?

I agree, I never understood the attachment to the protagionist race in Dragon Age: Origins for outside the Origin chapter, there is very little seperating the Human Mage Warden from the Noble Dwarven Warden, besides a couple of text lines scattered across the game.

[RepHope]

What would be the point? You look human, sound human, and unless you go around loudly declaring it at the top of your lungs who would even notice?

[LPPrince]

Alistair worked, so I imagine it'd be even better for a PC.

[Sutekh]

It could make for a very interesting background, but, apart from NPCs who'd know of it, you wouldn't get any related content from it. This said, on a pure roleplaying / character development point of view, I'd like that.

[MisanthropePrime]

I've been in favor of this idea for a while. The great thing is that no one would know you're elf-blooded just by looking at you, so you'd get a lot of opportunities to snipe people. Like you're talking to some Orlesian noble and he's all "damn knife-ears stole my bike" or something and then you can say "my mother was a 'knife-ear', watch your tongue" or some such.

[Mykel54]

To me it sounds like an origin to appease those that want to play an elf, but the main character is a human. I don´t really like hybrids in any fantasy setting, and personally i would rather play a pure elf or human.

[LobselVith8]

drake heath wrote...

Why does no one ever want to be a half-dwarf?

Everyone always wants to be some pansy elf...

Sandal is rumored to be half-elven, if I recall Ethereal's post about the dialogue from the corrupt carta dwarves in Legacy correctly.

[Nefla]

I think it would be pretty cool, not great like being able to be an actual elf or dwarf or even qunari, but even though you would look human you could at least have a unique cultural perspective, have a stake in elf freedom, and still be an underdog.

[ShadowLordXII]

Nefla wrote...

I think it would be pretty cool, not great like being able to be an actual elf or dwarf or even qunari, but even though you would look human you could at least have a unique cultural perspective, have a stake in elf freedom, and still be an underdog.

A half-elf who appears human would make their personal conflict even harder because the temptation to cut off their elven roots is greater.  They can be torn between two cultures and be faced with a classic morton's fork straight from the life of some light-skinned african americans who could "pass for white" in the Jim Crow Era:

A) Conform and fit into the Majority since you pass for one anyway

Confess and Cherish your Minority roots and risk ostricization as one of them

I'm all for an "Elven-born" Origin as a role-play challenge for even "paragon" characters.

[MisanthropePrime]

Mykel54 wrote...

To me it sounds like an origin to appease those that want to play an elf, but the main character is a human. I don´t really like hybrids in any fantasy setting, and personally i would rather play a pure elf or human.

Dragon Age does hybrids surprisingly well, compared to a lot of settings, in that they're not a separate "race". The child of an elf and a human is human- such examples in the setting being Feynriel, Slim Couldry and Alistair. You wouldn't even know the latter two had an elven parent if you didn't pay attention. They have no special powers or distinguishing features, and the only "benefit", if it can be called that, is potentially having an insight into elven culture that other humans might not.