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Would a half-human half elven protaganist work well?


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ShadowLordXII wrote...

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I think it would be pretty cool, not great like being able to be an actual elf or dwarf or even qunari, but even though you would look human you could at least have a unique cultural perspective, have a stake in elf freedom, and still be an underdog.


A half-elf who appears human would make their personal conflict even harder because the temptation to cut off their elven roots is greater.  They can be torn between two cultures and be faced with a classic morton's fork straight from the life of some light-skinned african americans who could "pass for white" in the Jim Crow Era:

A) Conform and fit into the Majority since you pass for one anyway

B) Confess and Cherish your Minority roots and risk ostricization as one of them

I'm all for an "Elven-born" Origin as a role-play challenge for even "paragon" characters.


Yes, that would be very interesting :D

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Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?

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Thetford wrote...

Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?


No. It's simply speculation at this point.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Thetford wrote...

Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?


No. It's simply speculation at this point.


I was begining to think I'd missed the confirmation tweet. 

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TBH, I'm more interested in their personality rather than their race.

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Karlone123 wrote...

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I don't understand your point...why would a companion half-human half-elf be a compromise for race selection for main character?


If people wanted to play as an elven character, but that not being a choice right now. They could have the best of both worlds of being Human and Elven, despite no race selection.


You mean the worst of both worlds right? Half-elves aren't anymore magical than any other person, so it's not like they're better at magic or anything. They still need training for stealth, hunting, etc, so there's no bonus there.

They're hated and discriminated against by both sides, the elves viewing you as a betrayl to their dying race, and the humans veiwing you as some half-blooded freak who should have knife ears or something. Rejected by both if you choose to embrace your heritige, you would need to hide your elfen blood and become a human to have a chance of surviving, making you a human anyway.

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Thetford wrote...

Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?

It's heavily implied, but not outright stated. Alistair claims his mother was a serving girl at Redcliffe that died giving birth to him, but we do know that Maric and the elven mage warden Fiona had a child together. Fiona explicitly asks Maric to tell the child his mother is both human and dead, and she asks Duncan to watch over him. So that means one of two things: Marric had more than one bastard child (possible) and Duncan is either watching over both and we haven't met the other (somewhat unlikely) or broke his promise to Fiona and ignored her child (unlikely). The law of conservation of detail pretty much pins Alistair as Fiona's son.

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It is certain that if this option to be half human half elf looks I was immediately takes!! Bioware said that the hero is human, but they did not specify the exact origins so I hope that this option will be present!!

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MiSS Provencale wrote...

It is certain that if this option to be half human half elf looks I was immediately takes!! Bioware said that the hero is human, but they did not specify the exact origins so I hope that this option will be present!!


So do I! Having it as a origin background would be enough for me. I do wonder what origin possibilties we'll be able to choose.

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MisanthropePrime wrote...

Thetford wrote...

Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?

It's heavily implied, but not outright stated. Alistair claims his mother was a serving girl at Redcliffe that died giving birth to him, but we do know that Maric and the elven mage warden Fiona had a child together. Fiona explicitly asks Maric to tell the child his mother is both human and dead, and she asks Duncan to watch over him. So that means one of two things: Marric had more than one bastard child (possible) and Duncan is either watching over both and we haven't met the other (somewhat unlikely) or broke his promise to Fiona and ignored her child (unlikely). The law of conservation of detail pretty much pins Alistair as Fiona's son.


In that case, who the heck is Goldana?

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 I say it should be a background choice.

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Swoopdogg wrote...

 I say it should be a background choice.


I like you.

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I'd support an origin with a human parent and an elf parent. It would be interesting.

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Mikoto8472 wrote...

I'd support an origin with a human parent and an elf parent. It would be interesting.


It could work in as even having an elven parent, you're still Human with or without elven feature. But to have elven resemblance you would have to narrow the chin a bit.

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Nefla wrote...

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Thetford wrote...

Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?

It's heavily implied, but not outright stated. Alistair claims his mother was a serving girl at Redcliffe that died giving birth to him, but we do know that Maric and the elven mage warden Fiona had a child together. Fiona explicitly asks Maric to tell the child his mother is both human and dead, and she asks Duncan to watch over him. So that means one of two things: Marric had more than one bastard child (possible) and Duncan is either watching over both and we haven't met the other (somewhat unlikely) or broke his promise to Fiona and ignored her child (unlikely). The law of conservation of detail pretty much pins Alistair as Fiona's son.


In that case, who the heck is Goldana?


She could be half elf too, or just some woman Alistair thought was his sister but actually isn't.
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Karlone123 wrote...


It could work in as even having an elven parent, you're still Human with or without elven feature. But to have elven resemblance you would have to narrow the chin a bit.


Yes, I think its a good idea. It suit's BioWare's obsession with human-only characters but throws a bone to fans who wanted a nonhuman. To my eyes Feynriel had slightly elvish facial features and eye shape. That would be a nice compromise as well as the conflicting cultural heritages.

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Yep, your idea is perfectly fine, let the protag be a half-blood.

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Rawgrim wrote...

The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.


What? When was this said? I've heard people theorize this, but I thought so far it was still just speculation. :huh:

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DeadlyHaven wrote...

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The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.


What? When was this said? I've heard people theorize this, but I thought so far it was still just speculation. :huh:


It is speculation, right now it's up to you if you think he is or isn't half-elven.

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Nefla wrote...

MisanthropePrime wrote...

Thetford wrote...

Was Alistair officially confirmed to be a child of an elf?

It's heavily implied, but not outright stated. Alistair claims his mother was a serving girl at Redcliffe that died giving birth to him, but we do know that Maric and the elven mage warden Fiona had a child together. Fiona explicitly asks Maric to tell the child his mother is both human and dead, and she asks Duncan to watch over him. So that means one of two things: Marric had more than one bastard child (possible) and Duncan is either watching over both and we haven't met the other (somewhat unlikely) or broke his promise to Fiona and ignored her child (unlikely). The law of conservation of detail pretty much pins Alistair as Fiona's son.


In that case, who the heck is Goldana?

Here's the deal. Alistair's birth is a "big" enough thing, being the son of a king, to warrant a national conspiracy. Now, Goldanna corroborates Alistair's belief that his mother died in childbirth, but you should understand that in a medieval-like society, death by childbirth isn't at all uncommon. If you kill Connor, Isolde bears Eamon another child but dies giving birth to it, so even the upper class aren't immune to it. Furthermore, Goldanna states that she thought that "the babe was dead", implying that she may have even seen her mother give birth or at least known of it, but did not grow up with Alistair.

As such, I think Alistair being from the same mother as Goldanna was a cover story crafted by Eamon and his associates. There was a serving girl in Redcliffe who was pregnant around the same time as Fiona, and both she and her baby died during childbirth. They paid Goldanna to keep her mouth shut and told Alistair his mother died, and no one's the wiser.

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Now, an elf with a beard would be interesting, like Tanis Half-Elven. I could see that leading to some interesting banter, especially with a Dwarf companion thrown into the mix as well.
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DeadlyHaven wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

The offspring between humans and elves are born human. Alistair is one. So playing as a human is pretty much what we are getting anyway.


What? When was this said? I've heard people theorize this, but I thought so far it was still just speculation. :huh:

It's heavily implied in Dragon Age: The Calling.

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Mikoto8472 wrote...

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It could work in as even having an elven parent, you're still Human with or without elven feature. But to have elven resemblance you would have to narrow the chin a bit.


Yes, I think its a good idea. It suit's BioWare's obsession with human-only characters but throws a bone to fans who wanted a nonhuman. To my eyes Feynriel had slightly elvish facial features and eye shape. That would be a nice compromise as well as the conflicting cultural heritages.


Most deffinetly on everything you've said there. The conflicting cultural heritages part deserves a bigger spotlight than being exclusive to a npc or companion. If it was to in a game of it's own, it would be similar to Hawke's story "rags to riches" but as I write before, more on the grounds of poverty, living on the road or city slums and being rejected by both the Andrastian community and the elven community. And they could add in a interesting encounter with the Dalish.

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BouncyFrag wrote...

Now, and elf with a beard would be interesting, like Tanis Half-Elven. I could see that leading to some interesting banter, especially with a Dwarf companion thrown into the mix as well.
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During banter the dwarf suggest adding braid to your beard to make it less sissy looking would leave me in stitches.

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Karlone123 wrote...

Mikoto8472 wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...


It could work in as even having an elven parent, you're still Human with or without elven feature. But to have elven resemblance you would have to narrow the chin a bit.


Yes, I think its a good idea. It suit's BioWare's obsession with human-only characters but throws a bone to fans who wanted a nonhuman. To my eyes Feynriel had slightly elvish facial features and eye shape. That would be a nice compromise as well as the conflicting cultural heritages.


Most deffinetly on everything you've said there. The conflicting cultural heritages part deserves a bigger spotlight than being exclusive to a npc or companion. If it was to in a game of it's own, it would be similar to Hawke's story "rags to riches" but as I write before, more on the grounds of poverty, living on the road or city slums and being rejected by both the Andrastian community and the elven community. And they could add in a interesting encounter with the Dalish.

To be fair, a half-elf doesn't necessarily need to come from the alienage. He could be part Dalish, like Feynriel, or the son of a servant who had an affair with a bourgeoise of noble human.