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[Fiery Phoenix]

This is from the same recent article that explains why the '3' was dropped from the title, but I figured it needed its own discussion. According to EA's Frank Gibeau:

Just the raw capabilities of Frostbite 3 and gen 4 features,” Gibeau told us when we asked about the advantage of adding PS4 and Xbox One. “We’re going to have PS3 and Xbox 360 and PC versions of Dragon Age III, so there will be a very broad-based experience there, but the new platforms are giving us the opportunity to tell stories in much larger worlds with more features and more things.

To me, the bold text seems to suggest that the Xbox One and PS4 versions of DA:I will be more than just the same game with better graphics, going as far as including more quests, characters, or even whole areas. At least this is my interpretation, which, quite frankly, would make sense to me.

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Have at it.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 24 juin 2013 - 07:11 .

[Plaintiff]

Well, there's still a year to go before it's even out. I'll probably have a PS4 by then anyway.

They sure do use a lot of words to say basically nothing.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 24 juin 2013 - 07:13 .

[BouncyFrag]

Sounds promising but since we could probably fill a thimble with the amount of actual DAI info we have, its all speculation at this point.

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 24 juin 2013 - 07:25 .

[cactusberry]

Uhh, no.

If the game turns out to have more content on Xbox One and PS4, I'm not buying. And I'm one of those people who swear to pre-order everything Bioware craps out as soon as there is word.

I'm not paying for a new console just so I can play the entire game right.

[Keeper of Light]

Plaintiff wrote...

Well, there's still a year to go before it's even out. I'll probably have a PS4 by then anyway.

They sure do use a lot of words to say basically nothing.

And you think this is all not possible? They're using the Frosbite 3, that'll make a big difference. If you've seen Battlefield, then you'd no they're not using a "lot of words" based on nothing but lies and deceit. Yet another skeptic who never played Battlefield 3 or never saw Battlefield 4 and what the Frosbite 2 and 3 is capable of.

[Plaintiff]

TheDarkRats wrote...

Uhh, no.

If the game turns out to have more content on Xbox One and PS4, I'm not buying. And I'm one of those people who swear to pre-order everything Bioware craps out as soon as there is word.

I'm not paying for a new console just so I can play the entire game right.

Would you rather the whole game be next-gen exclusive?

[Bekkael]

BouncyFrag wrote...

Sounds promising but since we could probably fill a thimble with the amount of actual DAI info we have, its all speculation at this point.

Indeed, and I'm so very weary of speculation. I just want some real information to drool over. Alas, with the game so far away, I think it will be another half a year at least until we have anything meaty to chew on. Perhaps not even then.

[Plaintiff]

Darksiders2 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Well, there's still a year to go before it's even out. I'll probably have a PS4 by then anyway.

They sure do use a lot of words to say basically nothing.

And you think this is all not possible? They're using the Frosbite 3, that'll make a big difference. If you've seen Battlefield, then you'd no they're not using a "lot of words" based on nothing but lies and deceit. Yet another skeptic who never played Battlefield 3 or never saw Battlefield 4 and what the Frosbite 2 and 3 is capable of.

Jesus Christ, somebody likes to overreact. What the hell is your problem?

Where did I say that they were lying or deceitful? Don't put words in my mouth.

What I said was they haven't told us anything. And guess what? They ****ing haven't! The quote is extremely vague, it tells us nothing useful. Until we get more concrete information, this all just hot air.

[cactusberry]

Plaintiff wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

Uhh, no.

If the game turns out to have more content on Xbox One and PS4, I'm not buying. And I'm one of those people who swear to pre-order everything Bioware craps out as soon as there is word.

I'm not paying for a new console just so I can play the entire game right.

Would you rather the whole game be next-gen exclusive?

It might as well be.

[Plaintiff]

TheDarkRats wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

Uhh, no.

If the game turns out to have more content on Xbox One and PS4, I'm not buying. And I'm one of those people who swear to pre-order everything Bioware craps out as soon as there is word.

I'm not paying for a new console just so I can play the entire game right.

Would you rather the whole game be next-gen exclusive?

It might as well be.

Exactly how long were you planning to hold on to your current-gen console anyway? You know the new ones are scheduled to be released at the end of this year, right? And that DA:I isn't scheduled for release until Winter 2014?

That's an entire year of game releases, surely you wouldn't be buying a new console just for Dragon Age.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 24 juin 2013 - 07:41 .

[cactusberry]

Plaintiff wrote...

Exactly how long were you planning to hold on to your current-gen console anyway? You know the new ones are scheduled to be released at the end of this year, right? And that DA:I isn't scheduled for release until Winter 2014?

That's an entire year of game releases, surely you wouldn't be buying a new console just for Dragon Age.

I was not going to buy any of the new consoles. I don't want consoles anymore.

[XX-Pyro]

TheDarkRats wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Exactly how long were you planning to hold on to your current-gen console anyway? You know the new ones are scheduled to be released at the end of this year, right? And that DA:I isn't scheduled for release until Winter 2014?

That's an entire year of game releases, surely you wouldn't be buying a new console just for Dragon Age.

I was not going to buy any of the new consoles. I don't want consoles anymore.

Then stop complaining about game developers leaving behind a 7 year old console and be grateful it's even being released for this generation.

[Plaintiff]

EntropicAngel wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I was not going to buy any of the new consoles. I don't want consoles anymore.

While I don't agree with Plaintiff that it's really okay for the two versions to be different, I WILL say this sounds like your chance to move to PC gaming. You'll be getting a version equal to the new consoles without going there.

I'm not condoning it, I'm waiting until we get more information before I start flipping tables.

It makes sense to start exploring the potential of new technology right away, but even assuming that this doesn't all come to nothing, I suspect that any perceived "differences" will probably be very minor.

And the whole "Game's not complete if one version has extra stuff" argument is silly. It's silly when it's applied to DLC, it's silly when it's applied to version-exclusive content in current-gen games, and it's silly now.

[cactusberry]

EntropicAngel wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

I was not going to buy any of the new consoles. I don't want consoles anymore.

While I don't agree with Plaintiff that it's really okay for the two versions to be different, I WILL say this sounds like your chance to move to PC gaming. You'll be getting a version equal to the new consoles without going there.

I have all of the DLC and stuff for both games on my Xbox 360 though. :/ 

I do PC game, just not with older series as I only got my gaming computer a year or so ago.

[o Ventus]

Plaintiff wrote...

Exactly how long were you planning to hold on to your current-gen console anyway?

Considering the number of fantastic games that came out this generation, I planned on keeping my 360 preferably forever. No sense in getting rid of something just because it's old, when there's some really, really good media available for it.

I still have my original PS2 after 13 years.

As for DAI, I would get it current-gen so I can import my save files.

[xAmilli0n]

o Ventus wrote...

As for DAI, I would get it current-gen so I can import my save files.

Its funny I have the opposite feeling.  The importing in DA has never really appealed to me (unlike ME).  I'm pretty okay with a choice in a few preset histories or a check list (which I would definitely prefer).

[Swoopdogg]

 That would honestly be really stupid.

[Maclimes]

What, you think they're going to take time to strip out features, or use different (smaller) maps on different consoles? That's WAY more work than necessary. It's far simpler to just build the game to the lowest common denominator (I think, in this case, the 360) and release it like that.

At most, you might see certain graphical features enabled on next gen that aren't on current gen. (Complex shadows, higher res textures, etc). That's obviously within the realm of possibility: Most games do that on PC already.

I suspect this was just him rambling out buzzwords.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Plaintiff wrote...

TheDarkRats wrote...

Uhh, no.

If the game turns out to have more content on Xbox One and PS4, I'm not buying. And I'm one of those people who swear to pre-order everything Bioware craps out as soon as there is word.

I'm not paying for a new console just so I can play the entire game right.

Would you rather the whole game be next-gen exclusive?

Honestly, I would. This game is going to be held back because it still needs to conform to the standards of the last generation. I think we're still in for a good game, but I have the feeling it's only going to look prettier on the XB1/PS4 instead of pushing any gaming boundaries.

And since they do have to conform to a large degree to this last generation, I highly doubt we're going to see any fundamental differences in the base game. If we do see anything 'more' on the next-gen versions, it'll likely be in the form of DLC that will hopefully be coming just to next-gen consoles/PC.

[Cigne]

Maclimes wrote...

What, you think they're going to take time to strip out features, or use different (smaller) maps on different consoles? That's WAY more work than necessary. It's far simpler to just build the game to the lowest common denominator (I think, in this case, the 360) and release it like that.

At most, you might see certain graphical features enabled on next gen that aren't on current gen. (Complex shadows, higher res textures, etc). That's obviously within the realm of possibility: Most games do that on PC already.

I suspect this was just him rambling out buzzwords.

Normally I'd agree, but with the new gen less than a year old (for DAI's release) I expect them to do everything they can to help sell those new consoles.

[brettc893]

If every next gen RPG ends up trying to mimic Bethesda, I'm done with gaming.

I'll take quality over quantity any day of the week.

[Maclimes]

Cigne wrote...

Maclimes wrote...

What, you think they're going to take time to strip out features, or use different (smaller) maps on different consoles? That's WAY more work than necessary. It's far simpler to just build the game to the lowest common denominator (I think, in this case, the 360) and release it like that.

At most, you might see certain graphical features enabled on next gen that aren't on current gen. (Complex shadows, higher res textures, etc). That's obviously within the realm of possibility: Most games do that on PC already.

I suspect this was just him rambling out buzzwords.

Normally I'd agree, but with the new gen less than a year old (for DAI's release) I expect them to do everything they can to help sell those new consoles.

So you think Bioware will put in more developement time (and cost) in to their game to help Microsoft and Sony sell more consoles? What's the pay off? Whether purchased for for XB360, XBOne, or whatever, they make the same profit.

[Swoopdogg]

I don't think current gen gamers should be left out. If you're going to release a game on both generations, you don't restrict those using current gen. You just don't. That's like saying, "Here, everyone gets cake! But only the rich kids get icing!"

I'd be fine with higher quality options for next gen, because honestly I don't care about that sort of thing. But to deny content to the current gen gamers is just... well, wrong, honestly. Like I said, you don't give a kid cake and then deny him icing. You just don't.