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[HurricaneGinger]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

I think the only thing that would really disappoint me is if the open world they are creating is TOO open world. Take Skyrim for example: I love that game, but the story can be lost midst the side-quests and traveling; also the lack of consequences for my actions can make being an all powerful b*tch a bit boring. Sure, you're sent to jail and bounties are set, yet you can easily escape or pay them off, and fight off thugs and assassins without trying. It's not much of a consequence, more like a slap on the wrist. And yes, you are the Dragonborn and you are highly respected, but I'd think if you start abusing your power action should be taken against you.

*Snip*

I'd have to agree with all of this. Skyrim is cool and all but I'm not big into sandbox RPGs for this very reason. Plus, you have to sacrifice some story to get a huge world like that, because there is only so much data to be had. (Unless they unlock the power of the Cloud for the next generation, but that won't be possible on the 360 or PS3.) I hope they do what they did in DA:O and KotOR where there are really big maps for you to explore, but it's not completely open-world.

However, they are also saying there will be quite a bit of consequence to your actions (of course, I take that with an enormous grain of salt thanks to ME3, but they might have learned their lesson). Possibly your choices from Origins will have a greater impact as well, since Morrigan is returning. And speaking of Morrigan, I'd be disappointed if she's not a large part of the plot, given the fact she narrated the first trailer.

This. 

[Rixatrix]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

BlueMoonSeraphim wrote...
Really hope they make Origin optional - it's the only reason I haven't bought DA2 and ME3 for PC.  The day it becomes Origin-free and available on say, Steam, my house will be buying two copies of each.  I know it's a longshot.

FYI, DA2 can be played without Origin.  I have both a disc and Amazon store digital copy of DA2 (for some very random reasons), and neither requires Origin to play.  It does turn up on the Origin dash, but I don't have to launch DA2 through Origin.

As for ME3...well, there are other ways to get around Origin.  Not strictly speaking legal, but if you don't wanna deal with Origin, there it is.

Thanks, good to know! I will look into DA2. I mainly use Steam for digital downloads, but I like Amazon, too. I just really don't want to install Origin on my PCs.

[Eltaulier]

No warden or Hawke ( yeah he grew on me lately)

[KiwiQuiche]

IceHawk-181 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

There are only two things I can think of:

1) If gay romances were removed.

2) If Orson Scott Card was involved in the future of Bioware in any way. I was very disappointed when I learned that they'd commissioned him to write a comic series for the setting, and if I thought my money was going to be funding him or anyone like him, that would be the end of Bioware for me.

Those are the only two things I can conceive of that would affect my enjoyment of the game in any significant way, and either one would cause me to stop buying Bioware games.

Orson Scott Card is one of the most talented Science Fiction writers of our time (the Enders series is amazing) it would be awesome if he were to have some input on the storylines. Honestly, he is a considerably better writer than DG.


Quite frankly, I would love it if some other authors were allowed to get their hands on the IP. I am generally disappointed in the writing to this point.

?

*Googles Orson Scott Card.*

...

Shame on you, Bioware. And shame on Mister Card for being such a horrible person. I certainly won't buy anything made by someone like that.

@OP

If we get the usual hair styles that seem to not change from DAO to DA2.
Not being able to being a bare-fisted-monk-Warrior.
No more Mabari.
And not being able to decorate my castle with battle-trophies.

[The Six Path of Pain]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

IceHawk-181 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

There are only two things I can think of:

1) If gay romances were removed.

2) If Orson Scott Card was involved in the future of Bioware in any way. I was very disappointed when I learned that they'd commissioned him to write a comic series for the setting, and if I thought my money was going to be funding him or anyone like him, that would be the end of Bioware for me.

Those are the only two things I can conceive of that would affect my enjoyment of the game in any significant way, and either one would cause me to stop buying Bioware games.

Orson Scott Card is one of the most talented Science Fiction writers of our time (the Enders series is amazing) it would be awesome if he were to have some input on the storylines. Honestly, he is a considerably better writer than DG.


Quite frankly, I would love it if some other authors were allowed to get their hands on the IP. I am generally disappointed in the writing to this point.

?

*Googles Orson Scott Card.*

...

Shame on you, Bioware. And shame on Mister Card for being such a horrible person. I certainly won't buy anything made by someone like that.

@OP

If we get the usual hair styles that seem to not change from DAO to DA2.
Not being able to being a bare-fisted-monk-Warrior.
No more Mabari.
And not being able to decorate my castle with battle-trophies.

It's pretty ironic that someone like Card will be writing material for a series that is really gay friendly.

[KiwiQuiche]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

IceHawk-181 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

There are only two things I can think of:

1) If gay romances were removed.

2) If Orson Scott Card was involved in the future of Bioware in any way. I was very disappointed when I learned that they'd commissioned him to write a comic series for the setting, and if I thought my money was going to be funding him or anyone like him, that would be the end of Bioware for me.

Those are the only two things I can conceive of that would affect my enjoyment of the game in any significant way, and either one would cause me to stop buying Bioware games.

Orson Scott Card is one of the most talented Science Fiction writers of our time (the Enders series is amazing) it would be awesome if he were to have some input on the storylines. Honestly, he is a considerably better writer than DG.


Quite frankly, I would love it if some other authors were allowed to get their hands on the IP. I am generally disappointed in the writing to this point.

?

*Googles Orson Scott Card.*

...

Shame on you, Bioware. And shame on Mister Card for being such a horrible person. I certainly won't buy anything made by someone like that.

@OP

If we get the usual hair styles that seem to not change from DAO to DA2.
Not being able to being a bare-fisted-monk-Warrior.
No more Mabari.
And not being able to decorate my castle with battle-trophies.

It's pretty ironic that someone like Card will be writing material for a series that is really gay friendly.

I wonder what he's like as a fellow worker since he's fairly outspoken.

[Nole]

Maybe they are trying to amend the way.

[sandalisthemaker]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

IceHawk-181 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

There are only two things I can think of:

1) If gay romances were removed.

2) If Orson Scott Card was involved in the future of Bioware in any way. I was very disappointed when I learned that they'd commissioned him to write a comic series for the setting, and if I thought my money was going to be funding him or anyone like him, that would be the end of Bioware for me.

Those are the only two things I can conceive of that would affect my enjoyment of the game in any significant way, and either one would cause me to stop buying Bioware games.

Orson Scott Card is one of the most talented Science Fiction writers of our time (the Enders series is amazing) it would be awesome if he were to have some input on the storylines. Honestly, he is a considerably better writer than DG.


Quite frankly, I would love it if some other authors were allowed to get their hands on the IP. I am generally disappointed in the writing to this point.

?

*Googles Orson Scott Card.*

...

Shame on you, Bioware. And shame on Mister Card for being such a horrible person. I certainly won't buy anything made by someone like that.

@OP

If we get the usual hair styles that seem to not change from DAO to DA2.
Not being able to being a bare-fisted-monk-Warrior.
No more Mabari.
And not being able to decorate my castle with battle-trophies.

It's pretty ironic that someone like Card will be writing material for a series that is really gay friendly.

I was not aware of this. Hopefully he won't have a future with Bioware.

[Iakus]

Is this still going on?

Has anyone here actually read one of his books? Based on what I've read human sexuality and legal issues concerning it don't really factor into the stories. He checks that stuff at the door.

Now if you want to go rant about an author who's peripherally (at best) connected to Dragon Age over Issues which he speaks out on as a private citizen but doesn't write about in his fiction (so far as I'm aware) kindly do it elsewhere.

[sandalisthemaker]

iakus wrote...

Is this still going on?

Has anyone here actually read one of his books? Based on what I've read human sexuality and legal issues concerning it don't really factor into the stories. He checks that stuff at the door.

Now if you want to go rant about an author who's peripherally (at best) connected to Dragon Age over Issues which he speaks out on as a private citizen but doesn't write about in his fiction (so far as I'm aware) kindly do it elsewhere.

It sends conflicting messages.

[Plaintiff]

iakus wrote...

Is this still going on?

Has anyone here actually read one of his books? Based on what I've read human sexuality and legal issues concerning it don't really factor into the stories. He checks that stuff at the door.

Now if you want to go rant about an author who's peripherally (at best) connected to Dragon Age over Issues which he speaks out on as a private citizen but doesn't write about in his fiction (so far as I'm aware) kindly do it elsewhere.

His fiction is not important, compared to his actions as a private citizen.

[Azaron Nightblade]

iakus wrote...

Is this still going on?

Has anyone here actually read one of his books? Based on what I've read human sexuality and legal issues concerning it don't really factor into the stories. He checks that stuff at the door.

Now if you want to go rant about an author who's peripherally (at best) connected to Dragon Age over Issues which he speaks out on as a private citizen but doesn't write about in his fiction (so far as I'm aware) kindly do it elsewhere.

In general I couldn't care less what authors, actors and other "famous" people do in their personal lives.
I knew someone who refused to watch any movie that had Christian Bale in it, because apparently "he is a terrible person" - but I won't let that stop me from enjoying the movies he plays in (if they are good to begin with).
That being said, I just looked up Card as well and I can definitely see why he'd tick off some people.

[Iakus]

Azaron Nightblade wrote...

In general I couldn't care less what authors, actors and other "famous" people do in their personal lives.
I knew someone who refused to watch any movie that had Christian Bale in it, because apparently "he is a terrible person" - but I won't let that stop me from enjoying the movies he plays in (if they are good to begin with).
That being said, I just looked up Card as well and I can definitely see why he'd tick off some people.

And people are free to not vote for him if he ever runs for public office.  Or heck, don't read his books if they are so inclined.  

But if I boycotted every book, tv show, movie, or game which had a writer, director, or actor who says, does, or believes in something I find offensive, I'd have precious few forms of entertainment available to me. 

If you don't think a writer's style would be a good fit for something like the Dragon Age setting, that's fine.  But railing on said author not because of writing ability but because they vote red or blue on a particular issue is innappropriate for this thread.

[cgckn]

I hope D3 have open source for mod because, This is a good chance for Bioware to truthly understand. What is the most player thinking. Because in community, I found a lot of people request many thing from bioware but when time has come. They don't like it, Sometime the silly idea for the most people will become popular.
A lot of people complain and request so many thing from bioware have resouce and time for make himself be happy. Sometime i feel they moan just because they bore and something think toch they feeling And some people come to agree with it. This is cost bioware branding. Because if the toppic has more enough. It will make some people think " Yeah that 's right " This is not helping bioware to solve the problem, For the exsample The endding of mass effect 3. I think they do the best. ( even the end similar the foundation ) And so much people complain about it.And later has some rumor bioware decide to change the endding.
The creater kit make they can fixed it, By themself and maybe bioware have greate information from toplist download mod or pick some mod to develop. With these bioware can create the great DLC for the most of people want. Truhtly in multiplayer bioware can gather information player style but in mod you can see the potential in there out of the box. i hop d3 can allow people create everything on they want in mod

[Iakus]

cgckn wrote...

I hope D3 have open source for mod because, This is a good chance for Bioware to truthly understand. What is the most player thinking. Because in community, I found a lot of people request many thing from bioware but when time has come. They don't like it, Sometime the silly idea for the most people will become popular.
A lot of people complain and request so many thing from bioware have resouce and time for make himself be happy. Sometime i feel they moan just because they bore and something think toch they feeling And some people come to agree with it. This is cost bioware branding. Because if the toppic has more enough. It will make some people think " Yeah that 's right " This is not helping bioware to solve the problem, For the exsample The endding of mass effect 3. I think they do the best. ( even the end similar the foundation ) And so much people complain about it.And later has some rumor bioware decide to change the endding.
The creater kit make they can fixed it, By themself and maybe bioware have greate information from toplist download mod or pick some mod to develop. With these bioware can create the great DLC for the most of people want. Truhtly in multiplayer bioware can gather information player style but in mod you can see the potential in there out of the box. i hop d3 can allow people create everything on they want in mod

Modding tools would be nice.  But probably of limited use to those not on a PC.

Unless I'm wrong.  I'm not an XBox or PS3 owner.  Have games on those platforms ever been giving such tools?

[Plaintiff]

iakus wrote...

Azaron Nightblade wrote...

In general I couldn't care less what authors, actors and other "famous" people do in their personal lives.
I knew someone who refused to watch any movie that had Christian Bale in it, because apparently "he is a terrible person" - but I won't let that stop me from enjoying the movies he plays in (if they are good to begin with).
That being said, I just looked up Card as well and I can definitely see why he'd tick off some people.

And people are free to not vote for him if he ever runs for public office.  Or heck, don't read his books if they are so inclined.  

But if I boycotted every book, tv show, movie, or game which had a writer, director, or actor who says, does, or believes in something I find offensive, I'd have precious few forms of entertainment available to me. 

If you don't think a writer's style would be a good fit for something like the Dragon Age setting, that's fine.  But railing on said author not because of writing ability but because they vote red or blue on a particular issue is innappropriate for this thread.

"People aren't allowed to be disappointed in Bioware unless it's for reasons I personally deem acceptable."

[keightdee]

iakus wrote...

But if I boycotted every book, tv show, movie, or game which had a writer, director, or actor who says, does, or believes in something I find offensive, I'd have precious few forms of entertainment available to me. 

:Kasumi voice: Gift for you!

How to Be a Fan of Problematic Things

[Rixatrix]

iakus wrote...
And people are free to not vote for him if he ever runs for public office.  Or heck, don't read his books if they are so inclined.  

But if I boycotted every book, tv show, movie, or game which had a writer, director, or actor who says, does, or believes in something I find offensive, I'd have precious few forms of entertainment available to me. 

If you don't think a writer's style would be a good fit for something like the Dragon Age setting, that's fine.  But railing on said author not because of writing ability but because they vote red or blue on a particular issue is innappropriate for this thread.

So basically: "I don't support him; I just support his books."  (which end up supporting him)

Come on.  Haven't you heard the phrase "money talks"?  About the only way outside of actual voting to be heard in today's society is by voting "yes" or "no" with your money.  You read BSN, you should know this.  There are only about 12312432431 threads threatening exactly this.  I'm sorry, but you're living in a dream if you think there is any sort of sense in someone supporting a person's work but claiming that they do not support the person's actions or publicly-voiced views.  It's like saying "I don't support [X Company] because it tests on animals," and then buying their products because if you "boycotted every [product made by companies who do] something [you] find offensive, [you'd] have precious few" products to choose from!

If convenience matters more to you than your beliefs, then that's fine for you, but don't lecture people to behave like hypocrites because they take actions (or inactions) consistent with their beliefs.  They're just being, you know, true to their word?  Saying "I don't support this" and then actually not supporting it?  

And get a "Moderator" badge before you start ordering people around about what they can and can't post in threads.

The Six Path of Pain wrote...
It's pretty ironic that someone like Card will be writing material for a series that is really gay friendly.

Exactly.  And, according to some, somehow making discriminating remarks against gays shouldn't lead to conflict in working with a gay-friendly company, and yet, I seem to recall some recent news about a certain cooking personality's discriminating remarks against African-Americans... leading to conflict with a company she worked for.  Hmm.

Modifié par BlueMoonSeraphim, 26 juin 2013 - 06:46 .

[Hi my name is Ryan]

I hope EA contracts OSC to write every Bioware game from now on. The narratives of their games would be much better, and it appears to bring the added bonus of causing all of the self-righteous, insufferable social justice warriors on this forum to go the **** away.

[Nightdragon8]

can we just drop the OSC crap plz? yes you don't like him we talked about this in the last forum THAT GOT LOCKED because of it. so please drop it and get back on topic. Which is screwed up topic anyway... *sigh* nevermind.

[Maria Caliban]

Swoopdogg wrote...

What do you think might disappoint you about DA3?

Tons of things, I'm sure.

[ThisIsZad]

 Scarce of facial hair in character creation 

LOL, no seriously:

PhantomGinger wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

I think the only thing that would really disappoint me is if the open world they are creating is TOO open world. Take Skyrim for example: I love that game, but the story can be lost midst the side-quests and traveling; also the lack of consequences for my actions can make being an all powerful b*tch a bit boring. Sure, you're sent to jail and bounties are set, yet you can easily escape or pay them off, and fight off thugs and assassins without trying. It's not much of a consequence, more like a slap on the wrist. And yes, you are the Dragonborn and you are highly respected, but I'd think if you start abusing your power action should be taken against you.

*Snip*

I'd have to agree with all of this. Skyrim is cool and all but I'm not big into sandbox RPGs for this very reason. Plus, you have to sacrifice some story to get a huge world like that, because there is only so much data to be had. (Unless they unlock the power of the Cloud for the next generation, but that won't be possible on the 360 or PS3.) I hope they do what they did in DA:O and KotOR where there are really big maps for you to explore, but it's not completely open-world.

However, they are also saying there will be quite a bit of consequence to your actions (of course, I take that with an enormous grain of salt thanks to ME3, but they might have learned their lesson). Possibly your choices from Origins will have a greater impact as well, since Morrigan is returning. And speaking of Morrigan, I'd be disappointed if she's not a large part of the plot, given the fact she narrated the first trailer.

This. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

THAT!

Modifié par ThisIsZad, 26 juin 2013 - 11:29 .