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Leliana, 100+ yet "Freindly," Do I have to restart?


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SharpEdgeSoda

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I have used the serach bar, but, despite being a common topic, I have not gotten a specific enogh answer.

I'm just going to list what I have done.

I HAVE given her Andraste's Grace and the Nug, and the Shoes.

I HAVE gotten her quest, AGES ago. Completed, talked to her. don't recall specific answer I gave

I HAVE gotten her to sing.

I HAVE NOT gotten any kiss option or relationship option.

I HAVE completed all the  treaties and I am right before talking to the Arl about going to Denerim.

I HAVE her approval 100, yet she is freindly. I pretty sure I have talked about everything.

I KNOW how to manipulate the Command Console, but I do not know specifically what to do in this sitution.

I would like to know, strait up.
Am I going to have to go back a 30 hours of save to get her romance option?

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If you chose the wrong options for Leliana, you shut down her romance option. There are two places to effectively flip it on (well, three, come to think of it).



1) At the start, asking about forbidden fruit.

2) After her major quest, asking to be as special to her as marj was.

3) When asking what she will do after this is over, saying you'd love to go with her.



If you're a female character, the options in the hair conversation point her forward in the female relationship.



More likely than not, you're stuck in the friend zone with her, due to some of the chosen responses :\\

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Whisa wrote...

If you chose the wrong options for Leliana, you shut down her romance option. There are two places to effectively flip it on (well, three, come to think of it).

1) At the start, asking about forbidden fruit.
2) After her major quest, asking to be as special to her as marj was.
3) When asking what she will do after this is over, saying you'd love to go with her.

If you're a female character, the options in the hair conversation point her forward in the female relationship.

More likely than not, you're stuck in the friend zone with her, due to some of the chosen responses :\\\\\\\\



Now that is interesting, because I'm sure I said I'd love to go with her.

Modifié par SharpEdgeSoda, 17 janvier 2010 - 11:08 .


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SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

Now that is interesting, because I'm sure I said I'd love to go with her.

As did I.  It's apparently not enough —  not on its own, at least.

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Sharp, as you are using the PC version, you are in luck and can use the ingame console to kindle the flames of love.

Wikia link to how to use the console

a simple runscript zz_app_debug will then let you set the romance flag.

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I had a save before the Major quest, did it, and afterward, didn't even give me the "special option."



So, I don't get the romance option...becuase I acted like a gentleman didn't want to comment on a former chantry member's fruit.



I'm sorry, but while it may not technically be a bug, that is some class A bull.

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Leliana is currently at 100 approval (Adore), and I'm not getting the conversation where she tells me how Marjolaine betrayed her. Neither do I get the random encounter where an assassin tries to kill her. Perhaps I raised her approval too high too fast that the game skipped her major quest?

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Whisa wrote...

If you're a female character, the options in the hair conversation point her forward in the female relationship.



Which, from a female's perspective, is hilarious. I'm pretty sure a guy wrote that dialogue if commenting on each other's hair is considered flirting.


Poor Sarielle was very confused when her good friend Leliana suddenly had the wrong idea after that.

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Joseph Silver wrote...

Leliana is currently at 100 approval (Adore), and I'm not getting the conversation where she tells me how Marjolaine betrayed her. Neither do I get the random encounter where an assassin tries to kill her. Perhaps I raised her approval too high too fast that the game skipped her major quest?


That's exactly what happened to me on my latest character. It was caused by raising the approval too fast past the appropriate flag.
So I used console commands to reset approval to 0 and slowly worked myself back up using conversations and adding a few approval points with the console for the gifts I had already used.

Modifié par melkathi, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:12 .


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Oh. Did you patch?



http://social.biowar...page/da-patches



It specifically says it fixes a bug concerning Leliana...it's not your problem specifically, but it might be related?

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Sarielle wrote...

Whisa wrote...

If you're a female character, the options in the hair conversation point her forward in the female relationship.



Which,
from a female's perspective, is hilarious. I'm pretty sure a guy wrote
that dialogue if commenting on each other's hair is considered flirting.


Poor Sarielle was very confused when her good friend Leliana suddenly had the wrong idea after that.


Sarielle, there are a few things with Leliana where I too thought a man must have written the dialogues. Lines like "Leilianna go be neurotic someplace else" just sound like someone had a very bad relationship in real life - it sure reminded me of some of my experiences.
Apparently though this part was the work of a woman writer :D

Modifié par melkathi, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:12 .


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omg that forbidden fruit had me bustten up laughen lmao is ur fruit forbidden cuase i now mine is lol :D

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Joseph Silver wrote...

Leliana is currently at 100 approval (Adore), and I'm not getting the conversation where she tells me how Marjolaine betrayed her. Neither do I get the random encounter where an assassin tries to kill her. Perhaps I raised her approval too high too fast that the game skipped her major quest?


Sometimes if you raise her approval  too high by giving her gifts and such it might skip some dailogue so you have to get her approval down somehow for it show up.. It`s happened to me before.

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melkathi wrote...
Sarielle, there are a few things with Leliana where I too thought a man must have written the dialogues. Lines like "Leilianna go be neurotic someplace else" just sound like someone had a very bad relationship in real life - it sure reminded me of some of my experiences.
Apparently though this part was the work of a woman writer :D



Well apparently my female friends and I have been flirting with each other since around the 8th or 9th grade grade (I was a tomboy, didn't care about hair for a long time xD)

I mean...my college roommate and I both had very long hair and would used to flat-iron each other's hair since it was faster than doing it ourself, lol. That's gotta be like propositioning each other, right?

Modifié par Sarielle, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:15 .


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Saying you will go with her when all is over is not a "romantic" invite.

You will actually get a differen "doing when all is over" option if you have a romance with her..










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Joseph Silver wrote...

Leliana is currently at 100 approval (Adore), and I'm not getting the conversation where she tells me how Marjolaine betrayed her. Neither do I get the random encounter where an assassin tries to kill her. Perhaps I raised her approval too high too fast that the game skipped her major quest?


You can skip this conversation accidentally very easy. It's just triggered when your approval level is "warm". I had this issue just today. So I changed a little bit in the Leliana conversation via DA Toolset so you get this option when you're at approval level "adore". I can upload it somewhere if needed.

edit:
this mod should fix this issue too:
http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=336

Modifié par Xadabas, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:20 .


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Sarielle wrote...

Well apparently my female friends and I have been flirting with each other since around the 8th or 9th grade grade (I was a tomboy, didn't care about hair for a long time xD)

I mean...my college roommate and I both had very long hair and would used to flat-iron each other's hair since it was faster than doing it ourself, lol. That's gotta be like propositioning each other, right?


I know how you feel. According to the Greagoir - Irving gay relationship thread, I have homoerotic feelings for most of my friends B)

At least now I know why I always fail at relationships :whistle:

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Leliana's scripts and flags are strange. I haven't patched yet and this last playthrough I talked about fruit, hair, and how bards are spies or somesuch. Most of the game I kept her under 50 loyalty but no ambush ever showed up. I think it might be because I was actively romancing Alistair at the time. In any case, I did everything up to where I need to go to redcliffe to have eamon call the landsmeet, then got Leliana's loyalty way, told her I'd dump Alistair, and proceeded to sleep with her. STILL no ambush.

Leliana is quite possibly the most frustrating part of the game for me.

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SharpEdgeSoda wrote...

I had a save before the Major quest, did it, and afterward, didn't even give me the "special option."

So, I don't get the romance option...becuase I acted like a gentleman didn't want to comment on a former chantry member's fruit.

I'm sorry, but while it may not technically be a bug, that is some class A bull.


You don't have to choose the "forbidden fruit" option to open her romance; I never do, because it's not in character for my mage to do so. If you don't do that though, you do have to lightly flirt with her - the other way to handle the first opportunity to turn her romance on is to call her beautiful and claim the other cloistered sisters couldn't have been as lovely as her.

As already mentioned though - since you have the PC version, just use the console to ativate her romance flag. You might also want to use it to lower her approval temporarily in case you can't see her earlier romance conversations.

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yeah! what the heck is her problem? she use to seduce men as part of her job as a bard yet I can't get her into my tent even when she is at 100%. Why is she torturing me so?

Modifié par kgav, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:41 .


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Zenocrate wrote...

Leliana's scripts and flags are strange. I haven't patched yet and this last playthrough I talked about fruit, hair, and how bards are spies or somesuch. Most of the game I kept her under 50 loyalty but no ambush ever showed up. I think it might be because I was actively romancing Alistair at the time. In any case, I did everything up to where I need to go to redcliffe to have eamon call the landsmeet, then got Leliana's loyalty way, told her I'd dump Alistair, and proceeded to sleep with her. STILL no ambush.
Leliana is quite possibly the most frustrating part of the game for me.


She has to be in the party for the ambush to happen.  It should happen after she admits that she lied to you about why she left Orlais.

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Hey wait if I remember correctly... you have to show interest as a girl for Leliana otherwise she just leaves you alone. She complements on your hair and then they start talking about shoes and then theres an option where the female warden can ask Leliana if she "enjoys the company of woman" and she'll say yes and they you reply about acting coy or some nonsense. The warden has to make the first move. I think also you can say soemthing later after killing Marjoline that you want to be "as special as she was" cause it's pretty obvious that they where intimate.



But yeah if complementing on an other girl's hair is a come on then I am quite the ladies woman xD but I don't think that was the point of her compliments ... or maybe it was... she is a bit weird... and the first thing Marjoline says to Leliana was something about how she made her hair boyish. Maybe it's an Orlesian thing? xD

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Lenimph wrote...

Hey wait if I remember correctly... you have to show interest as a girl for Leliana otherwise she just leaves you alone. She complements on your hair and then they start talking about shoes and then theres an option where the female warden can ask Leliana if she "enjoys the company of woman" and she'll say yes and they you reply about acting coy or some nonsense. The warden has to make the first move.


I definitely didn't make the first move on Sarielle. Definitely didn't ask about "enjoying the company of a woman" or whatever. I even went so far early on as to be all "you're a great friend Leliana" etc.

Which is why I was all "wait wut?"

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Sarielle wrote...

I definitely didn't make the first move on Sarielle. Definitely didn't ask about "enjoying the company of a woman" or whatever. I even went so far early on as to be all "you're a great friend Leliana" etc.

Which is why I was all "wait wut?"

Hmm weird.

She did like get all hearbroken on my noble when i decided to be queen with Alistair and i was like wtf . But I've heard about that happening to other people...

Modifié par Lenimph, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:42 .


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Lenimph wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

I definitely didn't make the first move on Sarielle. Definitely didn't ask about "enjoying the company of a woman" or whatever. I even went so far early on as to be all "you're a great friend Leliana" etc.

Which is why I was all "wait wut?"

Hmm weird.

She did like get all hearbroken on my noble when i decided to be queen with Alistair and i was like wtf . But I've heard about that happening to other people...


Yeah, I play Sarielle as being extremely diplomatic so I didn't come right out and say "You have the wrong idea"over the "You're a treasured friend" (she was trying to avoid awkwardness) but she didn't even make the first move on the character she DID sleep with eventually, lol.

I have been told her romance is a little buggy, particularly on the female end.