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[Captain Crash]

Look their will always be completionists so its not worth getting worked up about it. For DAO this was impossible as you would need to get 10 copies from different regions to get all the DLCs. However as there are only 3 Items available and people are doing this multiple copy/refund idea to get them. Most people have the sense not to do this but thats not for me to judge and there no rules stopping you.



If you cant download the inferno armour later, I dont care. There is bound to be better armour in game for my character of choice and the available DLC's later will probably mean in two months I would never wear it again anyway. For me this is a trivial matter.

[Moorpheus19]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Moorpheus19 wrote...

It'd be awesome if it was DLC. I'd like to get my hands on the Blackstorm but (in the UK), you can either have the CE or the Terminus - not both, like the GameSpot bundle

That untrue, Chris Priestly has on several times said if something comes with Terminus armor, it comes with the blackstorm gun, even if the site doesn't say it selling it doesn't say it.

That's not what he meant.....he meant he can't have the Collector's Edition AND the Terminus gear which includes the Blackstorm and that is true now though he wouldn't be in this situatin if he preodered fast enough.

Ah nevermind then, I miss read.  Yeah at this point pretty much anyone wanting CE and Terminus is SOL

Yeah, what I meant was - in the UK, the Collector's Edition & Terminus set were never included together, like the (now out of stock) GameSpot edition. You could get only get 1 or the other in the UK

[Crimzon Nutcase]

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

You really have nothing solid to base your assumptions on and no minor preorder bonus has EVER been given as DLC and it won't start now. The fact that not buying two copies will have you miss out on stuff forever is a strong incentive to buy multiple copies and EA won't cheapen that.

Juggernaut for Marvel Ultimate Alliance, a Gamestop pre-order bonus, is now for sale, the Weapon X room for X-Men Origins Wolverine, originally a bonus, now for sell, don't use definitive statements unless you know for 100% sure.

The DLC for MUA2 is no longer on PSN or XBL. 

I wouldn't mind seeing armor/items being DLC, but as long as it's worth the price. I have two versions of the game pre-ordered, one from the Stop place and CE from a CRAZY place. That way I don't have to worry about wanting more gear and having to fiddle with scammers on Ebay, trying to get the codes.

[ExarKun00720]

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...

ExarKun00720 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

You really have nothing solid to base your assumptions on and no minor preorder bonus has EVER been given as DLC and it won't start now. The fact that not buying two copies will have you miss out on stuff forever is a strong incentive to buy multiple copies and EA won't cheapen that.

Juggernaut for Marvel Ultimate Alliance, a Gamestop pre-order bonus, is now for sale, the Weapon X room for X-Men Origins Wolverine, originally a bonus, now for sell, don't use definitive statements unless you know for 100% sure.

The DLC for MUA2 is no longer on PSN or XBL. 

I wouldn't mind seeing armor/items being DLC, but as long as it's worth the price. I have two versions of the game pre-ordered, one from the Stop place and CE from a CRAZY place. That way I don't have to worry about wanting more gear and having to fiddle with scammers on Ebay, trying to get the codes.

That is a whole other can of worms seeing as they took all DLC off, even new ones made.  I don't know what Activision was smoking but it must have been good.

The point is when they did have DLC they made the pre-order juggernaut as DLC as well.

Modifié par ExarKun00720, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:08 .

[DocLasty]

You really have nothing solid to base your assumptions on and no minor preorder bonus has EVER been given as DLC and it won't start now. The fact that not buying two copies will have you miss out on stuff forever is a strong incentive to buy multiple copies and EA won't cheapen that.



Nobody - especially in this economy - in their right mind is going to buy a game twice just to get a single suit of armor. Only the hardest, most obsessed fan would do such a thing. A lot of people like Bioware games, but the vast majority don't like it that much. Not enough for EA to count on making a lot of money of double buys.

[Scunny85]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Moorpheus19 wrote...

It'd be awesome if it was DLC. I'd like to get my hands on the Blackstorm but (in the UK), you can either have the CE or the Terminus - not both, like the GameSpot bundle

You would be able to have both if you had preordered while the CE was still available. The exact SAME situation is in the US......everyone preodered CE from GameStop because they wanted both.....this caused GameStop to sell out of their CEs which put people into an either or situation.

I got mine set early on so I'm good to go.

In the UK it's nothing to do with ordering early.
One retailer had CE exclusivity and another had it for the terminus gear so without ordering 2 copies we never had the chance to get both.

[Captain Crash]

Scunny85 wrote...

In the UK it's nothing to do with ordering early.
One retailer had CE exclusivity and another had it for the terminus gear so without ordering 2 copies we never had the chance to get both.

Yep we got bummed essentially.   If you got CE you only got Collectors.  If you preordered standard editions from alternative vendors you got the Terminus and Inferno armours.   One armour per copy!

[Darth_Trethon]

DocLasty wrote...


You really have nothing solid to base your assumptions on and no minor preorder bonus has EVER been given as DLC and it won't start now. The fact that not buying two copies will have you miss out on stuff forever is a strong incentive to buy multiple copies and EA won't cheapen that.

Nobody - especially in this economy - in their right mind is going to buy a game twice just to get a single suit of armor. Only the hardest, most obsessed fan would do such a thing. A lot of people like Bioware games, but the vast majority don't like it that much. Not enough for EA to count on making a lot of money of double buys.

There are other aspects....money placed for preorders are used in investments to generate income bfore the gmae releases and one extra copy of the game sold because of the preorder bonus makes them far more income than 50 or 100 copies of a $1 or $2 DLC ever will and precisely because the economy is poor is why the sales are declining. A lot of people don't have money for gaming and companies like EA have to find ways to compensate by doing these things so that those who DO have money for gaming will buy more.

The pros of preorder exclussive DLC are too great and the only thing that releasing a couple of armors for $1 or $2 will gain them is hate and bad publicity the way the horse armor pack did to Bethesda....because too many assume those should be free.....but it they don't sell them separately for $1 or $2 then nobody will be surprised and nobody cries ripoff.

[Major Alenko]

Scunny85 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Moorpheus19 wrote...

It'd be awesome if it was DLC. I'd like to get my hands on the Blackstorm but (in the UK), you can either have the CE or the Terminus - not both, like the GameSpot bundle

You would be able to have both if you had preordered while the CE was still available. The exact SAME situation is in the US......everyone preodered CE from GameStop because they wanted both.....this caused GameStop to sell out of their CEs which put people into an either or situation.

I got mine set early on so I'm good to go.

In the UK it's nothing to do with ordering early.
One retailer had CE exclusivity and another had it for the terminus gear so without ordering 2 copies we never had the chance to get both.

I'm ordering 2 copies, CE for myself and i offered to preorder for my mate so i get termnius as well

[Darth_Trethon]

Commodore Q wrote...
I'm ordering 2 copies, CE for myself and i offered to preorder for my mate so i get termnius as well

Does he know? I doubt he'll be too happy when he finds out.

[Stoko981]

I just keep seeing the same couple of names over and over posting things like "We believe the preorder DLC will be available to buy from Day One" or "I'm fairly confident" or "It's fairly likely". People read that kind of confident statement and they believe it. But there's absolutely no indication for that whatsoever. It's wishful thinking. The stupid thing is though, that if it doesn't happen, these same people will act like they've been cheated out of something. As if they were promised something they never received. Which they had every chance to get.

Modifié par Stoko981, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:25 .

[Major Alenko]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...
I'm ordering 2 copies, CE for myself and i offered to preorder for my mate so i get termnius as well

Does he know? I doubt he'll be too happy when he finds out.

Yeah he knows... well i think he does, Tbh i deserve both armours lol he only played ME1 once so not really as dedicated as me Also i told him i was preordering for bouns and offered to sell the game to him for £35 insted of £40 but he said he'll pay £40

Modifié par Commodore Q, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:29 .

[DocLasty]

There are other aspects....money placed for preorders are used in investments to generate income bfore the gmae releases and one extra copy of the game sold because of the preorder bonus makes them far more income than 50 or 100 copies of a $1 or $2 DLC ever will and precisely because the economy is poor is why the sales are declining. A lot of people don't have money for gaming and companies like EA have to find ways to compensate by doing these things so that those who DO have money for gaming will buy more.



The more likely thing they'll do is sell it with something like an extra character or an adventure - again, there's no reason not to release it in some form or another. After the game is release, you can't preorder anymore, obviously, so they might as well make some money off of what they've already done.

[DocLasty]

Stoko981 wrote...

I just keep seeing the same couple of names over and over posting things like "We believe the preorder DLC will be available to buy from Day One" or "I'm fairly confident" or "It's fairly likely". People read that kind of confident statement and they believe it. But there's absolutely no indication for that whatsoever. It's wishful thinking. The stupid thing is though, that if it doesn't happen, these same people will act like they've been cheated out of something. As if they were promised something they never received. Which they had every chance to get.

It's not wishful thinking, it's common sense. And there's been no indication that it won't be released, either - I'd rather think optimistically than pessimistically. And if it's not released, it's not. It's not a big deal. I like the way the Inferno Armor looks, but I like the way Terminus looks much more

[serjwolf]

DocLasty wrote...

I look at it sort of the same way as the Darth Vader/Yoda situation. Bioware doesn't expect anyone to buy the game twice to get one extra armor (well, a small percentage might) Right now they're just an incentive to buy the game in advance, nice and new.

Besides that, look at the Blackstorm weapon. You don't go through the trouble of making something like that and never include it in the game.

im buying the SE from Gamestop to get the terminus and blackstorm, and im buying the CE from EA to get the Inferno and Collector armor; plus i have DA:O so i shall have all the Armor

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Darth_Trethon]

DocLasty wrote...



There are other aspects....money placed for preorders are used in investments to generate income bfore the gmae releases and one extra copy of the game sold because of the preorder bonus makes them far more income than 50 or 100 copies of a $1 or $2 DLC ever will and precisely because the economy is poor is why the sales are declining. A lot of people don't have money for gaming and companies like EA have to find ways to compensate by doing these things so that those who DO have money for gaming will buy more.

The more likely thing they'll do is sell it with something like an extra character or an adventure - again, there's no reason not to release it in some form or another. After the game is release, you can't preorder anymore, obviously, so they might as well make some money off of what they've already done.

They won't release the preorder items. Those two armors and a weapon are there to teach you to preorder or miss out though they'll have plenty of OTHER DLC of all szes we don't yet know of for you to buy. In this sense they'll eat their cake and have it too. And YES there are TONS of reasons NOT to release the preorder items but you are in too much denial to see the facts. Like I said think whatever you like but you won't see that preorder stuff as DLC.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:34 .

[Darth_Trethon]

DocLasty wrote...

Stoko981 wrote...

I just keep seeing the same couple of names over and over posting things like "We believe the preorder DLC will be available to buy from Day One" or "I'm fairly confident" or "It's fairly likely". People read that kind of confident statement and they believe it. But there's absolutely no indication for that whatsoever. It's wishful thinking. The stupid thing is though, that if it doesn't happen, these same people will act like they've been cheated out of something. As if they were promised something they never received. Which they had every chance to get.

It's not wishful thinking, it's common sense. And there's been no indication that it won't be released, either - I'd rather think optimistically than pessimistically. And if it's not released, it's not. It's not a big deal. I like the way the Inferno Armor looks, but I like the way Terminus looks much more

Keep telling yourself that......but as the months pass and you don't get those items don't come on these threads whining about it.

[izmirtheastarach]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Keep telling yourself that......but as the months pass and you don't get those items don't come on these threads whining about it.

And what if we do get it? Will you shut up and go away?

[Scunny85]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

Stoko981 wrote...

I just keep seeing the same couple of names over and over posting things like "We believe the preorder DLC will be available to buy from Day One" or "I'm fairly confident" or "It's fairly likely". People read that kind of confident statement and they believe it. But there's absolutely no indication for that whatsoever. It's wishful thinking. The stupid thing is though, that if it doesn't happen, these same people will act like they've been cheated out of something. As if they were promised something they never received. Which they had every chance to get.

It's not wishful thinking, it's common sense. And there's been no indication that it won't be released, either - I'd rather think optimistically than pessimistically. And if it's not released, it's not. It's not a big deal. I like the way the Inferno Armor looks, but I like the way Terminus looks much more

Keep telling yourself that......but as the months pass and you don't get those items don't come on these threads whining about it.

You seem to have a real problem with this stuff coming out as dlc.
The fact is that nobody knows. The people who say it will come out are guessing and the people who say it won't are guessing.
All we've had from bioware is that the collectors stuff definately won't be dlc.
Everything else is just opinion no matter how much you say "it makes sense for them to do it" or "it's never been done before".
Wait and see. It might, it might not. If it does great, if not it's not the end of the world.

[Darth_Trethon]

You are seriously as stubborn as crying children. Look around you. Just about ALL preorder bonuses become inaccessible after the games release. I could literally provide dozens and hundreds of examples....especially from EA. This is a FACT......your denial will simply lead you to come back and whine your behind off a few weeks or months down the road as if BioWare promised you that content or as if you're entitled to it.

There is no "what if" here.....none more valid than claiming a meteor will hit a button on my shirt tomorrow morning at 6:04 am....it just won't happen. The sooner you come to terms with reality the better off you'll be.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 18 janvier 2010 - 12:53 .

[Phoenixblight]

I was sure there was an interview by Adrian CHo who stated all the preorder DLC would eventually become available to everyone. Hmm... WHere was it?

[Sleepicub09]

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[DocLasty]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

Stoko981 wrote...

I just keep seeing the same couple of names over and over posting things like "We believe the preorder DLC will be available to buy from Day One" or "I'm fairly confident" or "It's fairly likely". People read that kind of confident statement and they believe it. But there's absolutely no indication for that whatsoever. It's wishful thinking. The stupid thing is though, that if it doesn't happen, these same people will act like they've been cheated out of something. As if they were promised something they never received. Which they had every chance to get.

It's not wishful thinking, it's common sense. And there's been no indication that it won't be released, either - I'd rather think optimistically than pessimistically. And if it's not released, it's not. It's not a big deal. I like the way the Inferno Armor looks, but I like the way Terminus looks much more

Keep telling yourself that......but as the months pass and you don't get those items don't come on these threads whining about it.

When the game comes out, I'll probably never come here again. I certainly won't come to whine about things; I've never had much interest in making topics to complain about pointless things.

[Stoko981]

Scunny85 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

Stoko981 wrote...

I just keep seeing the same couple of names over and over posting things like "We believe the preorder DLC will be available to buy from Day One" or "I'm fairly confident" or "It's fairly likely". People read that kind of confident statement and they believe it. But there's absolutely no indication for that whatsoever. It's wishful thinking. The stupid thing is though, that if it doesn't happen, these same people will act like they've been cheated out of something. As if they were promised something they never received. Which they had every chance to get.

It's not wishful thinking, it's common sense. And there's been no indication that it won't be released, either - I'd rather think optimistically than pessimistically. And if it's not released, it's not. It's not a big deal. I like the way the Inferno Armor looks, but I like the way Terminus looks much more

Keep telling yourself that......but as the months pass and you don't get those items don't come on these threads whining about it.

You seem to have a real problem with this stuff coming out as dlc.
The fact is that nobody knows. The people who say it will come out are guessing and the people who say it won't are guessing.
All we've had from bioware is that the collectors stuff definately won't be dlc.
Everything else is just opinion no matter how much you say "it makes sense for them to do it" or "it's never been done before".
Wait and see. It might, it might not. If it does great, if not it's not the end of the world.

Except it's more misleading to say "it probably will" than to say "the DA:O stuff still isn't out, why would this be any different?". The folk that keep insisting it will or it should or they're confident or whatever, they're creating false hope. They want to potentially set themselves up for a disappointment? Fine, but dragging along however many other people read about their confidence is unfair to them.

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Keep telling yourself that......but as the months pass and you don't get those items don't come on these threads whining about it.

And what if we do get it? Will you shut up and go away?

Is there any eventuality that could make you do that?

[DocLasty]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

You are seriously as stubborn as crying children. Look around you. Just about ALL preorder bonuses become inaccessible after the games release. I could literally provide dozens and hundreds of examples....especially from EA. This is a FACT......your denial will simply lead you to come back and whine your behind off a few weeks or months down the road as if BioWare promised you that content or as if you're entitled to it.

There is no "what if" here.....none more valid than claiming a meteor will hit a button on my shirt tomorrow morning at 6:04 am....it just won't happen. The sooner you come to terms with reality the better off you'll be.

Who are you, my Mom? What do you care what I believe or don't believe?