So I've been rather indifferent towards ME3 for the past year. I didn't bother with any of the DLCs (except From Ashes, because I got that one for free). I've tried starting new playthroughs but always stop when I remember the lovely bit of writing towards the end. But I still love the first two games and play them a lot, and am now tempted to import some of those characters into ME3.
My question is: does playing with all the DLC installed make the overall experience better?
I don't think I'll ever love ME3 like I do ME1 and 2, but I'm hoping with all the DLC involved this time around I'll at least find it satisfying.
Thoughts?
Worth replaying with all the DLC?
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grey_wind
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 12:51
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A bit, but I wouldn't really recommend it. The DLC doesn't actually fit anywhere in the main game, and the narrative is still trash.
Omega is useless. Leviathan simply doesn't work with the story (it tries to reveal things that the rest of the game just assumes you don't know). And Citadel is great, but it doesn't really have much to do with anything else that's going on, and it gets harder to justify all the hub stuff in the later stages of the game.
Javik is the only one that actually fits into the game, and since you already have it... well, it's up to you. I didn't find the experience to be substantively better, though it was nice to have longer breaks from the pure nonsense of the plot (and especially delaying that garbage final mission and vacuous ending).
Omega is useless. Leviathan simply doesn't work with the story (it tries to reveal things that the rest of the game just assumes you don't know). And Citadel is great, but it doesn't really have much to do with anything else that's going on, and it gets harder to justify all the hub stuff in the later stages of the game.
Javik is the only one that actually fits into the game, and since you already have it... well, it's up to you. I didn't find the experience to be substantively better, though it was nice to have longer breaks from the pure nonsense of the plot (and especially delaying that garbage final mission and vacuous ending).
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 12:54
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You'll probably get mixed opinions on this. Omega in particular gets mixed reviews on BSN, it strikes me as something decidedly not for everyone. A lot of people liked the atmosphere of Leviathan and it does give back story for the Catalyst but that probably won't do much for someone that really doesn't like the endings. Citadel is a fanservice extravaganza though people will point out it doesn't really fit the tone on the game. Some have a problem with that but most seem to enjoy this fact.
I think the real question here is how much did the ending affect you? If they still get to you I wouldn't recommend spending $40 on DLC. That's a lot of money to drop on something you don't like. If you can tolerate the endings then it's really up to you whether or not you want to expand the game a bit.
I think the real question here is how much did the ending affect you? If they still get to you I wouldn't recommend spending $40 on DLC. That's a lot of money to drop on something you don't like. If you can tolerate the endings then it's really up to you whether or not you want to expand the game a bit.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:06
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I think it depends when you play them. For example, playing Omega after the Citadel coup feels right, and it's rather symbolic. Cerberus attacks the Citadel, the hub of civilization. Now, Shepard attacks the Cerberus-held Omega, the hub of the chaotic Terminus Systems.
Same thing with Leviathan. You'll want to play the last mission after Thessia; otherwise the Vendetta scene loses its impact. Playing before Horizon also establishes that Reaper enemies can be controlled.
As for Citadel, I think this works well because you can break up all the little side cutscenes with the characters and experience them throughout the course of the game. Same with all the attractions. Because Shepard is under a ton of stress and realistically, he would not be traveling from one planet to the next to the next to the next. He would go crazy (as Joker mentions after Thessia).
Same thing with Leviathan. You'll want to play the last mission after Thessia; otherwise the Vendetta scene loses its impact. Playing before Horizon also establishes that Reaper enemies can be controlled.
As for Citadel, I think this works well because you can break up all the little side cutscenes with the characters and experience them throughout the course of the game. Same with all the attractions. Because Shepard is under a ton of stress and realistically, he would not be traveling from one planet to the next to the next to the next. He would go crazy (as Joker mentions after Thessia).
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:08
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If you're on a PC, I recommend the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod. Follow the link in my sig.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:10
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I'm someone who first played the game with From Ashes, Leviathan, and the EC installed and loved the whole experience, INCLUDING the ending, but then I never got that initial slap in the face of the original ending.
Omega didn't add much for me, but I've always been a story lover over a combat lover, and I LOVED Citadel.
Like one of the previous posters has said, you're going to get a lot of disagreement from us, but I really think it boils down to your own attitude. If you're still that hung up on the ending (and I'm guessing you're someone who played the original one), probably no amount of DLC will change your mind. If you've taken most of the last year off, I'd say give at least the EC and Leviathan a try. They really do help round the story out.
Omega didn't add much for me, but I've always been a story lover over a combat lover, and I LOVED Citadel.
Like one of the previous posters has said, you're going to get a lot of disagreement from us, but I really think it boils down to your own attitude. If you're still that hung up on the ending (and I'm guessing you're someone who played the original one), probably no amount of DLC will change your mind. If you've taken most of the last year off, I'd say give at least the EC and Leviathan a try. They really do help round the story out.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:30
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If not for the DLCs I'd be less inclined to bother, but I have all of them and it makes replaying it very enjoyable for me despite the ending, which I'm not as bitter about as I may come off. I realize that a lot of stuff doesn't fit, particularly Citadel, but I don't take it too seriously, and it's a lot more fun.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:31
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From Ashes is the only one worth bothering. The rest don't fit; Omega is basically shoot all over and your done. Leviathan has Shepard act stupid and ignoring obvious indoctrination and some hamfisted attempt to justify Starbrat while Citadel feels completely out of place and it so damn cheesy. If anything, the DLC's just prove how lame the writers are at doing their jobs.
Better off saving your money and just youtube'n them.
Better off saving your money and just youtube'n them.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:33
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Eh, youtubing mass effect stuff is only worth it to look at choices you don't want to make in-game yourself.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:36
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As someone who was rather put off by the original endings, and was only mildly placated by the EC, I can say that the DLC, when played in a "proper" order, really do improve the game and even the narrative, albeit slightly.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:43
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KaiserShep wrote...
Eh, youtubing mass effect stuff is only worth it to look at choices you don't want to make in-game yourself.
If I had youtube'd ME3 I could have saved myself from spending $150 on garbage.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:46
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Maybe you could save us from your ridiculous whining and clumsy attempts to pretend this was ever an issue of money.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:47
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I think so... I overlook some of the bad stuff (writing), but ME3 does so many other things good. I think a lot of us are hurt because we put the ME series on a pedestal as far as writing goes. I still enjoy playing it. I come up with convenient excuses and headcanons for certain parts. It probably flows well better than the first or second game.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:48
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David7204 wrote...
Maybe you could save us from your ridiculous whining and clumsy attempts to pretend this was ever an issue of money.
David, as classy as ever.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:50
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Yet you're still on these boards a year later. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be here yelling at BioWare that you hate them. I really don't understand this philosophy of people who just wants to suffer and be martyrs. I hated the original endings, wasn't that impressed with the EC, but this doesn't make me want to crawl or to self-harm myself because I didn't get my closure scene with my love interest.
This only means that I got a bitter sweet ending with the high EMS destroy path and I'm okay with that for now. People trashed me all around in the fandom and in the Retake groups for thinking differently, but I seriously think all this rage, all this anger is actually due to the fact "haters" still care for the franchise even if they say otherwise. If they didn't they would've already moved on and stopped complaining every time something Mass Effect related pops out from the surface of their screens.
And for the Thread now. If I were you, I'd try the experience for myself and stop listening to people. Then I'd make my own opinion on the DLCs. You're free to Youtube videos, but it will never be your choices, your Shepard, etc. The whole Mass Effect experience is ruined when you refuse to continue your story after all.
This only means that I got a bitter sweet ending with the high EMS destroy path and I'm okay with that for now. People trashed me all around in the fandom and in the Retake groups for thinking differently, but I seriously think all this rage, all this anger is actually due to the fact "haters" still care for the franchise even if they say otherwise. If they didn't they would've already moved on and stopped complaining every time something Mass Effect related pops out from the surface of their screens.
And for the Thread now. If I were you, I'd try the experience for myself and stop listening to people. Then I'd make my own opinion on the DLCs. You're free to Youtube videos, but it will never be your choices, your Shepard, etc. The whole Mass Effect experience is ruined when you refuse to continue your story after all.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:51
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The fact you trivialize self-harm in such a manner says a lot, Teddie.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:55
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It's worth replaying the game with Leviathan and Citadel, yeah.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 01:58
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KiwiQuiche wrote...
The fact you trivialize self-harm in such a manner says a lot, Teddie.
You don't know anything about me, try again.
But more seriously, people here are acting like it's the end of the world. It isn't. There are much better video games and stuff to do out there than being on the BSN saying that everything outside is made of dog poop and cat urine.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:00
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Teddie Sage wrote...
This only means that I got a bitter sweet ending with the high EMS destroy path and I'm okay with that for now. People trashed me all around in the fandom and in the Retake groups for thinking differently, but I seriously think all this rage, all this anger is actually due to the fact "haters" still care for the franchise even if they say otherwise. If they didn't they would've already moved on and stopped complaining every time something Mass Effect related pops out from the surface of their screens.
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Of course we still care about the franchise. And we hate what those last ten minutes did to it. How it five yeasrs and three games led to,...that...with no way to alter such a fate.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:01
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Teddie Sage wrote...
KiwiQuiche wrote...
The fact you trivialize self-harm in such a manner says a lot, Teddie.
You don't know anything about me, try again.
But more seriously, people here are acting like it's the end of the world. It isn't. There are much better video games and stuff to do out there than being on the BSN saying that everything outside is made of dog poop and cat urine.
You are acting as if self-harm is something to joke about or to insult people about. So don't act like a jackass if you aren't one then.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:02
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KiwiQuiche wrote...
Teddie Sage wrote...
KiwiQuiche wrote...
The fact you trivialize self-harm in such a manner says a lot, Teddie.
You don't know anything about me, try again.
But more seriously, people here are acting like it's the end of the world. It isn't. There are much better video games and stuff to do out there than being on the BSN saying that everything outside is made of dog poop and cat urine.
You are acting as if self-harm is something to joke about or to insult people about. So don't act like a jackass if you aren't one then.
What, because you can't joke about anything these days? Sheesh. If you can't laugh about yourself, who will?
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:05
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I enjoyed the DLC. However, if you didn't like the main game then I don't think it's worth the investment.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:06
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The Citadel DLC gave me a reason to replay a bit (though I stopped right before Earth) have only two more variants I want to do on it. It's the only one I picked up, have no plans on getting the rest, make of that what you will.
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Posté 26 juin 2013 - 02:06
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Teddie Sage wrote...
KiwiQuiche wrote...
Teddie Sage wrote...
KiwiQuiche wrote...
The fact you trivialize self-harm in such a manner says a lot, Teddie.
You don't know anything about me, try again.
But more seriously, people here are acting like it's the end of the world. It isn't. There are much better video games and stuff to do out there than being on the BSN saying that everything outside is made of dog poop and cat urine.
You are acting as if self-harm is something to joke about or to insult people about. So don't act like a jackass if you aren't one then.
What, because you can't joke about anything these days? Sheesh. If you can't laugh about yourself, who will?
So joke about self-harm because it is such a hilarious topic to laugh about? Some things just aren't funny.
