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Most Overrated N7 in MP?


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Jeremiah12LGeek

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doozerdude wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

It IS Lupus wrote...

I don't mind the Paladin as long as they aren't snap freeze spamming. Had people do that to me and a friend. over rode all of our biotic explosions. We kick people playing Paladins now.


I think you misunderstood what was happening. You can set off both explosions. The "prime overwrite" is misleading... it doesn't "delete" the original prime, it moves ahead of it in the "detonation" queu. If you follow up with a second detonator before the original Biotic prime ends, you will set off both explosions - for a lot more total damage. I've done it many, many times with Warp, Incendiary Ammo and Throw, or with Snap Freeze, Warp, and Throw.

That Paladin was actually helping you, as he was also debuffing the targets and increasing all forms of damage.

Unless, of course, you were upset that he was getting credit for the kills.



No... Just no.

Snap-cheat overwrites. Only on boss units will you be able to get in a BE, (and thats only once or twice), when you have a Paladin on your team.

I'm sorry, but when I play a biotic, I am not there to support you. I am playing biotic to make wubwub BE combos. And after getting one wub BE, I'm all geared up for the next wub BE, for teh wubwub comboception. But then some snapcheat herdur gets in the way with his ear cracking clangy annoying as heeeell cryo...

I don't care about score, 90% of the time I'm #1 anyways. But what I do care about is noobs f*cking my ears. I could easily solo, you are not helping me, you are jsut breaking my audio, and trolling your teammates.


Very well. I will check again.

I was not lying. I have a lot of video of it, and I play the HSent a great deal with Paladins and AIUs. I have read the relevent mechanics threads a few times. I don't always understand the math, and I suppose I may have missed something.

I suspect, however, that you are trolling me.

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doozerdude wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I think you misunderstood what was happening. You can set off both explosions. The "prime overwrite" is misleading... it doesn't "delete" the original prime, it moves ahead of it in the "detonation" queu. If you follow up with a second detonator before the original Biotic prime ends, you will set off both explosions - for a lot more total damage. I've done it many, many times with Warp, Incendiary Ammo and Throw, or with Snap Freeze, Warp, and Throw.

That Paladin was actually helping you, as he was also debuffing the targets and increasing all forms of damage.


No... Just no.


I recommend that you read this.
I will quote Corlist here:
"Important note regarding debuffsDebuffs (warp, biotic sphere, proximity mine) do not increase damage of combos specifically. Instead, targets that are debuffed take extra damage from combos.
Debuffs (when applicable) stack additively with each other."
As far as still being able to detonate the original prime goes, I found footage of me doing it, but I would have to edit and upload it, and I'm not interested in taking the time to do that. Especially when you could test it for yourself, if you actually wanted to.

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Probably should have worded my post properly by saying which N7 do you like dislike the most :P to the people who say im trolling, only played MP for a month now o.o played 3 N7s just wanted to see what you guys thought.

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Chealec wrote...

Demolisher - it's just a bad QME as far as I'm concerned.


I'm inclined to agree.

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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

doozerdude wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

It IS Lupus wrote...

I don't mind the Paladin as long as they aren't snap freeze spamming. Had people do that to me and a friend. over rode all of our biotic explosions. We kick people playing Paladins now.


I think you misunderstood what was happening. You can set off both explosions. The "prime overwrite" is misleading... it doesn't "delete" the original prime, it moves ahead of it in the "detonation" queu. If you follow up with a second detonator before the original Biotic prime ends, you will set off both explosions - for a lot more total damage. I've done it many, many times with Warp, Incendiary Ammo and Throw, or with Snap Freeze, Warp, and Throw.

That Paladin was actually helping you, as he was also debuffing the targets and increasing all forms of damage.

Unless, of course, you were upset that he was getting credit for the kills.



No... Just no.

Snap-cheat overwrites. Only on boss units will you be able to get in a BE, (and thats only once or twice), when you have a Paladin on your team.

I'm sorry, but when I play a biotic, I am not there to support you. I am playing biotic to make wubwub BE combos. And after getting one wub BE, I'm all geared up for the next wub BE, for teh wubwub comboception. But then some snapcheat herdur gets in the way with his ear cracking clangy annoying as heeeell cryo...

I don't care about score, 90% of the time I'm #1 anyways. But what I do care about is noobs f*cking my ears. I could easily solo, you are not helping me, you are jsut breaking my audio, and trolling your teammates.


Very well. I will check again.

I was not lying. I have a lot of video of it, and I play the HSent a great deal with Paladins and AIUs. I have read the relevent mechanics threads a few times. I don't always understand the math, and I suppose I may have missed something.

I suspect, however, that you are trolling me.


I don't think he's trolling you Jeremiah. Detonating snap freeze on most mooks will kill or very nearly kill them meaning you can't then set off the underlying biotic primer - at least I believe that's what doozerdude is getting at.

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ITT: People don't know what overrated means.

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N7 Paladin. I just don't understand him.

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cato_84 wrote...

I don't think he's trolling you Jeremiah. Detonating snap freeze on most mooks will kill or very nearly kill them meaning you can't then set off the underlying biotic primer - at least I believe that's what doozerdude is getting at.


After checking a few sources, I was able to confirm that I had my facts right in the original post.

(I'm pretty sure he was trolling me. ;))

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RiseOftheCalamity wrote...

Probably should have worded my post properly by saying which N7 do you like dislike the most :P to the people who say im trolling, only played MP for a month now o.o played 3 N7s just wanted to see what you guys thought.


Ah, I understand what you meant to ask. :lol:

I didn't think you were trolling. I suspect most others don't, either.

I don't have a least-favourite N7, really. Unless it's a tie between the Slayer and Destroyer, since I use the other four pretty regularly.