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Because if it is, I literally just noticed that it's a half price download on 3DS until 06/03/14 over here five minutes ago. Small world.
I'm looking for another game for my new 3DS now that I've finished LoZ a link between worlds, is it worth £9.99 you guys reckon?
Obviously, nostalgia is what's kept Nintendo alive since the 90s. The Jak games on the Vita are ports and not new games that were specifically designed first-hand for the Vita like say A Link to the Past now with a hookshot, for the 3DS. Same thing counts for the Ratchet & Clank games so they do not count. This is nitpicking for an argument that isn't there. There's no comparison between Sony & Nintendo, because it is Nintendo that feeds on bad nostalgia. Sony feeds on Netflix, cable TV, gimmicks and other unrelated gaming nonsense with a few exclusive titles against Microsoft.Br3ad wrote...
Also, plenty of Vita games, cough Jak and Daxter, GoW, Ratchet and Clank, Those other two games cough, are doing the exact same thing you are talking about with Nintendo. Only with a cheaper touchscreen.
Not the biggest fan of visual novels with barely any gameplay - Catherine is one of those few games with the exception to the rule, so we'll see.It is. From what I've seen and played personally, it's a great game series.
Modifié par TheChris92, 17 février 2014 - 11:00 .
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Catherine's not a visual novel though, so why is it an exception?TheChris92 wrote...
Not the biggest fan of visual novels with barely any gameplay - Catherine is one of those few games with the exception to the rule, so we'll see.
Different countries get different stores, thus different offers.OdanUrr wrote...
It says $24.99 on the eStore and there's no mention of it being discounted?Evil Mastered wrote...
£9.99
A visual novel (ビジュアルノベル bijuaru noberu?) is an interactive fiction game, eaturing mostly static graphics, most often using anime-style art. Oh, and I'm aware that I took that from the Wiki. Anyway, Catherine is exactly that - You make some choices and the game will determine your ending based on it. The elements of visual novels & simulation games are there just like in the Persona games.J. Reezy wrote...
Catherine's not a visual novel though, so why is it an exception?TheChris92 wrote...
Not the biggest fan of visual novels with barely any gameplay - Catherine is one of those few games with the exception to the rule, so we'll see.
Modifié par TheChris92, 17 février 2014 - 11:06 .
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Different countries get different stores, thus different offers.OdanUrr wrote...
It says $24.99 on the eStore and there's no mention of it being discounted?Evil Mastered wrote...
£9.99
Americans got Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition free on 3DS E-Shop a fortnight ago, while everyone else didn't, for example.
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Maybe I need to see more of it but "Visual Novel", like what Katawa Shoujo, 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors, and Virtue's Last Reward involve, doesn't come to mind when I see Catherine. There seems to be a very specific set of interaction and presentation that visual novel would fall under. I guess you could just ask yourself, "When I play this do I feel like I'm reading a book or playing a game?" I mean even if the elements are there I would never call, say, Persona, a visual novel.TheChris92 wrote...
A visual novel (ビジュアルノベル bijuaru noberu?) is an interactive fiction game, eaturing mostly static graphics, most often using anime-style art. Oh, and I'm aware that I took that from the Wiki. Anyway, Catherine is exactly that - You make some choices and the game will determine your ending based on it. The elements of visual novels & simulation games are there just like in the Persona games.J. Reezy wrote...
Catherine's not a visual novel though, so why is it an exception?TheChris92 wrote...
Not the biggest fan of visual novels with barely any gameplay - Catherine is one of those few games with the exception to the rule, so we'll see.
Modifié par J. Reezy, 17 février 2014 - 11:21 .
Persona is a mixture of simulation & JRPG. Catherine, you spend most of your time having conversations with characters in the Nightmare and Pub-sections of the game. You make choices to determine the outcome like in Visual novels and then you do some puzzling. So, in that sense, it's the same as this game that's been talked about here from my point of view.J. Reezy wrote...
Maybe I need to see more of it but "Visual Novel", like what Katawa Shoujo, 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors, and Virtue's Last Reward involve, doesn't come to mind when I see Catherine. There seems to be a very specific set of interaction and presentation that visual novel would fall under. I guess you could just ask yourself, "When I play this do I feel like I'm reading a book or playing a game?" I mean even if the elements are there I would never call, say, Persona, a visual novel.
Modifié par TheChris92, 17 février 2014 - 11:28 .
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I see what you mean but this is where presentation of a game comes into play. It's dialogue heavy, but it's presented in a traditional RPG experience. You move around like a traditional video game. There's that player input of "I can walk over here, or over here, I can talk to this guy, or not talk to this guy." Visual novels, even though they're interactive, are very passive experiences when you think of traditional game design. Of that moment to moment interactivity that makes a video game a video game.TheChris92 wrote...
Persona is a mixture of simulation & JRPG. Catherine, you spend most of your time having conversations with characters in the Nightmare and Pub-sections of the game. You make choices to determine the outcome like in Visual novels and then you do some puzzling. So, in that sense, it's the same as this game that's been talked about here from my point of view.J. Reezy wrote...
Maybe I need to see more of it but "Visual Novel", like what Katawa Shoujo, 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors, and Virtue's Last Reward involve, doesn't come to mind when I see Catherine. There seems to be a very specific set of interaction and presentation that visual novel would fall under. I guess you could just ask yourself, "When I play this do I feel like I'm reading a book or playing a game?" I mean even if the elements are there I would never call, say, Persona, a visual novel.
Modifié par J. Reezy, 17 février 2014 - 11:46 .
Like I said -- I'm not claiming it's bona-fide visual novel. It obviously has gameplay, and so does Zero Escape I imagine, hence the comparison. A visual novel is defined through certain traits, as much as an RPG is as well. Catherine has these traits but also gameplay to make it seem less like a visual novel.J. Reezy wrote...
I see what you mean but this is where presentation of a game comes into play. It's dialogue heavy, but it's presented in a traditional RPG experience. You move around like a traditional video game. There's that player input of "I can walk over here, or over here, I can talk to this guy, or not talk to this guy." Visual novels, even though they're interactive, are very passive experiences when you think of traditional game design. Of that moment to moment interactivity that makes a video game a video game.TheChris92 wrote...
Persona is a mixture of simulation & JRPG. Catherine, you spend most of your time having conversations with characters in the Nightmare and Pub-sections of the game. You make choices to determine the outcome like in Visual novels and then you do some puzzling. So, in that sense, it's the same as this game that's been talked about here from my point of view.J. Reezy wrote...
Maybe I need to see more of it but "Visual Novel", like what Katawa Shoujo, 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors, and Virtue's Last Reward involve, doesn't come to mind when I see Catherine. There seems to be a very specific set of interaction and presentation that visual novel would fall under. I guess you could just ask yourself, "When I play this do I feel like I'm reading a book or playing a game?" I mean even if the elements are there I would never call, say, Persona, a visual novel.
Modifié par TheChris92, 17 février 2014 - 11:51 .
There are newer Jak titles, sure you may not count the PSP games, there are what I'm talking about. They all run off "nostalgia." It may not be as old as Mario, or Zelda, but it's still the exact same concept. This isn't nitpicking for an argument, this is the fact that Sony's doing the exact same thing you're accusing Nintendo of with its exclusives. The only difference I see, is that Sony just doesn't have enougn of them to survive off of, while Nintendo does. This doesn't change the fact people will make the same game, year after year, to make a profit.TheChris92 wrote...
Obviously, nostalgia is what's kept Nintendo alive since the 90s. The Jak games on the Vita are ports and not new games that were specifically designed first-hand for the Vita like say A Link to the Past now with a hookshot, for the 3DS. Same thing counts for the Ratchet & Clank games so they do not count. This is nitpicking for an argument that isn't there. There's no comparison between Sony & Nintendo, because it is Nintendo that feeds on bad nostalgia. Sony feeds on Netflix, cable TV, gimmicks and other unrelated gaming nonsense with a few exclusive titles against Microsoft.Br3ad wrote...
Also, plenty of Vita games, cough Jak and Daxter, GoW, Ratchet and Clank, Those other two games cough, are doing the exact same thing you are talking about with Nintendo. Only with a cheaper touchscreen.
Modifié par Br3ad, 17 février 2014 - 11:55 .
Modifié par Some Geth, 17 février 2014 - 11:56 .
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Also, plenty of Vita games, cough Jak and Daxter, GoW, Ratchet and Clank, Those other two games cough, are doing the exact same thing you are talking about with Nintendo. Only with a cheaper touchscreen.
We were talking about Vita games, son -- Look at your own post above again.There are newer Jak titles, sure you may not count the PSP games, there are what I'm talking about.
Again -- This discussion is irrelevant to the one I was trying to avoid having with you. Also, I'mma phrase it again. Unlike Nintendo, Sony has not made this far on nostalgia -- There hasn't been a Jak game for a long time. Ratchet & Clank still exists, yes, but they've gone into obscurity for a while and isn't what attracts the consumers to Sony. Sony & Microsoft have their exclusives, their Halos & their Killzones, but it's not what's keeping their wheels turning. Both sides have had plenty of exclusives titles that have since died out, whereas Nintendo are still cooking the same thing over and over. You're fishing for arguments that are irrelevant. And I think we are done now.They all run off "nostalgia." It may not be as old as Mario, or Zelda, but it's still the exact same concept. This isn't nitpicking for an argument, this is the fact that Sony's doing the exact same thing you're accusing Nintendo of with its exclusives. The only difference I see, is that Sony just doesn't have enougn of them to survive off of, while Nintendo does. This doesn't change the fact people will make the same game, year after year, to make a profit.
Modifié par TheChris92, 18 février 2014 - 12:09 .
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"Well, I'm not Superman, that's for sure. And I'm not Batman, or Spiderman, or Aquaman, or a merman, or a wolfman. I'm not a brahman, or common, or ramen. I'm not a caiman either, so you don't really need to worry about anything. My name is Phi. I guess you could say... I am no man."
Want the next game! Want to know more about Phi! GAH!
Time for my mind to go back to another me in the past to make sure the Japanese actually buy these games. So that they can make the next one, at least in that timeline. Don't think my mind will come back to me in this timeline after that tho.Skelter192 wrote...
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"Well, I'm not Superman, that's for sure. And I'm not Batman, or Spiderman, or Aquaman, or a merman, or a wolfman. I'm not a brahman, or common, or ramen. I'm not a caiman either, so you don't really need to worry about anything. My name is Phi. I guess you could say... I am no man."
Want the next game! Want to know more about Phi! GAH!
**** this timeline man.
Modifié par Some Geth, 18 février 2014 - 03:48 .
I gave in to curiosity and bought it.
My first reaction: So much engrish! 
You'd think I'd be used to it after hearing HSP's stuff, but it's still somewhat jarring.
That aside, it was still worth a tenner, easily. Anyone from the UK or Europe, you've still got a week to pick it up on the cheap on the 3DS if you're curious.
The puzzles remind me of what the old point & click PC games of yesteryear would have been like if they'd actually been enjoyable, and the branching storyline's remind me of classic choose your own adventure novels.
Add in a mix of oddball anime styling and a sort of light novel story between choices and puzzles and you've got something rather unusual.
Try it, you might like it. 
Just do yourself a favour and switch the audio off, especially if you're going to play it on the train...
I gave in to curiosity and bought it.
My first reaction: So much engrish!
I didn't understand what you meant at first, then I looked it up. NA has an English voice track in addition to the Japanese one. I never used the Japanese one. I still wanted to mute the English version occasionally, but they were very well done. Cockney gaulems are the best gaulems.
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I didn't understand what you meant at first, then I looked it up. NA has an English voice track in addition to the Japanese one. I never used the Japanese one. I still wanted to mute the English version occasionally, but they were very well done. Cockney gaulems are the best gaulems.
Oh cool, that made me raise an eyebrow for a second too. Like, "Did whoever localize this not hire native english speakers?"
I'll have to look for a voice track option next time I play. It's probably buried somewhere in one of the multitude of menus.
I still think it's odd they didn't make the first game downloadable, there's plenty of other classic games available in Nintendo's store, it's kinda their thing.
Unfortunately, the European release only has the Japanese voices.
The English VAs are names that keep popping up everywhere - Laura Bailey, Troy Baker, Ali Hillis, Tara Platt, etc. etc.
Unfortunately, the European release only has the Japanese voices.
The English VAs are names that keep popping up everywhere - Laura Bailey, Troy Baker, Ali Hillis, Tara Platt, etc. etc.
Typical.
I can understand not translating it into French, German, Spanish, ect, because that'd cost a fortune, but deleting the English voice track as well stinks.
Oh well, Phi's voice is kinda nice, so it's not all bad.
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Unfortunately, the European release only has the Japanese voices.
The English VAs are names that keep popping up everywhere - Laura Bailey, Troy Baker, Ali Hillis, Tara Platt, etc. etc.
I would've liked this but I reached my quota >_<
You had me at "Laura Bailey". I need to buy this.
I would've liked this but I reached my quota >_<
You had me at "Laura Bailey". I need to buy this.
Yes you do. Buy it now.
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